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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 08:52 GMT
#1553
It's also an INCREDIBLY strange thing for Tumblewood to get caught up in. Tumblewood doesn't give any fucks. He just posts reads. Now he's getting into heated debates early game about irrelevant shit? Like who cares if my read on you was wrong, Tumblewood has posted about 4 times in previous games that he can't be bothered to enter into these fights, especially with me, because they're endless and hounding. Yet he does it here to not even make a read on you. It's a pointless endeavour to what? Have an argument with me and actually have no conclusion afterwards.

What did he gain from that discussion after all? Nothing really.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 08:54 GMT
#1554
And tried so hard was clearly tongue in cheek. Maybe tried so hard would be better for you.

Please stop dragging the conversation down to your shit arguments.

Call someone mafia and make a good case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:28 GMT
#1559
Let's just completely demolish why you're wrong:

Tumblewoods defence on your case against me was 100% logical and correct. There is that. That is not TMi because he only talked about evidence rhat was at the time in thread. Unlike Koshi for example last game.

Ultimately untrue. My post literally states that the TMI is going through your database games to drag up meta (that's wrong in actual context) to disprove my meta read on you.

His initial point is:

"Oh HF that doesn't make anyone mafia, he does that /in every game too!"
"No, tw, my point is he DOESN'T do that as town."

This is when TW should be all. Hmmm, maybe I didn't think of that. What if Holyflare is right?

What's his line of thinking then? As town he'd be questioning it, but he definitely doesnt. As mafia he's jumping at the chance knowing you're town and can easily prove it because if you're town this game you've likely done it as town before. Then he pulls up out of context quotes.

This is the step that makes him mafia. When called out for the out of context quotes he flees and says nothing more.




A little bit of digging goes a long way on this one:


Maybe he decided to do something else instead of calling ff/hopeless mafia because he did think neither of them was mafia... why is that impossible? Why does tumblewood not just simply talk about hopeless and ff as mafia? wow now he cared about the lynch and assuming hopeless is town which is very likely, he did the "right thing" with basically zero risk. Why do you think my conclusion makes less sense than yours?


On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff

sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous

at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels


Hey look who is in his mafia list. Dat hopeless boi. Good thing his most top town of all he just left to die.

On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters


And he doesn't even know why he town read ff. So he spent more time town reading someone irrelevant than figuring out hopeless and ff. He spent 3 minutes! Reading hopeless. He said he liked that one post from hopeless and said there's probably no right answer but then hopeless ends up in his scum list??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:31 GMT
#1560
Why didn't he make a town case on fecalfeast if he's top town? Why cake?

Cos mafia wasting time 10/10 times.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:41 GMT
#1561
And is it like TW to call out faulty logic and get into arguments about it? A few games ago he was withholding information just to avoid confrontation and an argument like that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:46 GMT
#1562
On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i think 1der is town for his response to this


This was posted 2 days ago too. Then he read hopeless's filter after seemingly "forgetting" it and he points out a post he likes.

Why does hopeless end up as his mafia pool?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:56 GMT
#1564
This is nothing like his town game. He isn't switched on at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:58 GMT
#1565
Tw's progression is:

Hopeless must be town for this post => votes hopeless => let me read hopeless' filter in 3 minutes => i like this post => hopeless is in a scum list

Does he talk about ff being his top town read anywhere? I can't remember much if anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 09:58 GMT
#1566
On August 17 2017 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
This is nothing like his town game. He isn't switched on at all.


Rels that is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 10:13 GMT
#1567
His read of town rayn was before or after the judges thing? Because if it is after that means he knew rayn was getting lynched and TW was trying to be like "I told you so"


Before the judges even picked the top 3 town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 10:14 GMT
#1568
It wasn't a read thar rayn was town either. It was rayn is null but here's proof that he does these things as town too (which is still unproven).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 11:15 GMT
#1569
People that didn't give a shit about a likely 3 town lynch pool:

Hopeless
Raynpelikoneet
Rels
Tumblewood
Jealous(to an extent)
Eversince (said to focus on three people up for lynch but didn't really push much of anything)
Ritoky

People that did care:

Geript
Hf
Conversion
Damdred (a little)
Copcake????? (??? I can't really remember hahah)

Mafia is almost entirely likely to be the top list.

Rayn is confirmed town or abused mod comments to reach it.

Hopeless didn't seem to care but did when abhorrent votes were coming in. Which is a +. Has pushed since.

Rels did shit all but little easy comments back into afk. Only turned up at deadline to vote and leave again.

Tw glaring inconsistencies see above.

Jealous 50/50/50. If you ask me how 150% is possible then I'll tell you he makes it possible. Really fallen off with the amount of coin flip situations he's posting. Want more scum reads that actually commit.

Eversince doing best i guess. But it's meager and want more?

Ritoky just read my filter for reasons. Ctrl f ritoky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 11:16 GMT
#1570
Tw/rels/ritoky

Maybe
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 11:32 GMT
#1571
On August 16 2017 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:17 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...




You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.


On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote:
If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:29 ritoky wrote:
i mean either:

a) damdred is your top mafia read and you want to lynch someone who isn't your top mafia read which is ????????????????????????????

or

b) i am your top mafia read who you want to lynch and you're lying.

so which?

Show nested quote +
i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

Show nested quote +
copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:01 ritoky wrote:
am i really going to have to vote for copcake in this top shit? really....is that what is about to happen....

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:41 ritoky wrote:
copcake are you town? can you tell me who else is town?


can you explain this progression?

I don't think you've said anything or much negative about jealous at all, even town read him for his pictures and hilarity and fuck you ness but you've somehow turned around on copcake when she's been more inconsistent and said more nothingness?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 11:33 GMT
#1572
I'm going to shoot rels.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:04 GMT
#1574
You think I'm lying though?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:05 GMT
#1575
I definitely maybe have a gun.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:05 GMT
#1576
:D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:06 GMT
#1577
Fine whatever. I don't have a gun. Maybe Jealous can stop talking about it now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:20 GMT
#1579
Being unable to be killed is quite refreshing. Very anti mafia.
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