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Honestly i didnt like Ritoky's reaction of being a clock. I would have understood if he was someone close to me or if I knew the player but taking offense of something like that felt odd. I need to see this in two perspectives tho.
1.- If I was a mafia ritoki and I saw someone drawing me with something I didnt like would I put myself a big sign for my silly tantrum?
2.- If I was town ritoki am I picky/dumb that I complain for something?
Have someone played with Ritoki before? Is he a narcisstic or something? If he is narcissist he is town.
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So my read has gone from town to receiving new information and making you null to rereading your filter and you being semi town now.
Anything else?
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On August 14 2017 23:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 23:23 geript wrote:On August 14 2017 18:17 Holyflare wrote: Copcake/jealous/hf
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Tw
Onegu/conversion/ff/rels/hopeless
Rayn/ritoky/damdI disagree about Cop/Jealous dumb tells; other than that this list is pretty good. Damdred feels way detatched from this game. The dumb tell is on top of the fact that jealous has called out what he assumes to be bull shit all game. I like it a lot. Copcake drops to your level for calling out rayn but not much else other than discuss about a clock with ritoky. Still called out rayn though. I can understand the Jealous read. I don't really like it; part of which was probably because he was calling me scum. But mostly because it's such an inconsequential thing. IIRC, his argument is that I'm scum because I want the judges to risk scum getting items in order to say "This guy is scum" when they could convey that through how they order the lists. It's just an easy nonsense argument to fight against as any alignment; especially since he didn't even bother to rationalize his argument in light of Artanis shooting down my plan.
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On August 14 2017 23:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 22:47 Holyflare wrote: My read on ritoky is nothing about him being angry he's a clock. Hahaha. That was just a joke. The lie detector test determined this was a lie.
You are like that mafia person that disguises as an old woman, kicks a kitten and then scream or point out to your victim and say "Someone just did something super mafia" and then dissapear in the middle of chaos.
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Ok shower time and then work
Ill try to post coz is gonna be a lot of work today
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On August 14 2017 23:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 23:25 Holyflare wrote:On August 14 2017 23:23 geript wrote:On August 14 2017 18:17 Holyflare wrote: Copcake/jealous/hf
Geript
Tw
Onegu/conversion/ff/rels/hopeless
Rayn/ritoky/damdI disagree about Cop/Jealous dumb tells; other than that this list is pretty good. Damdred feels way detatched from this game. The dumb tell is on top of the fact that jealous has called out what he assumes to be bull shit all game. I like it a lot. Copcake drops to your level for calling out rayn but not much else other than discuss about a clock with ritoky. Still called out rayn though. I can understand the Jealous read. I don't really like it; part of which was probably because he was calling me scum. But mostly because it's such an inconsequential thing. IIRC, his argument is that I'm scum because I want the judges to risk scum getting items in order to say "This guy is scum" when they could convey that through how they order the lists. It's just an easy nonsense argument to fight against as any alignment; especially since he didn't even bother to rationalize his argument in light of Artanis shooting down my plan.
I think it was so fucking dumb it has to be town. That's all :D
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On August 14 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 23:34 geript wrote:On August 14 2017 23:25 Holyflare wrote:On August 14 2017 23:23 geript wrote:On August 14 2017 18:17 Holyflare wrote: Copcake/jealous/hf
Geript
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Onegu/conversion/ff/rels/hopeless
Rayn/ritoky/damdI disagree about Cop/Jealous dumb tells; other than that this list is pretty good. Damdred feels way detatched from this game. The dumb tell is on top of the fact that jealous has called out what he assumes to be bull shit all game. I like it a lot. Copcake drops to your level for calling out rayn but not much else other than discuss about a clock with ritoky. Still called out rayn though. I can understand the Jealous read. I don't really like it; part of which was probably because he was calling me scum. But mostly because it's such an inconsequential thing. IIRC, his argument is that I'm scum because I want the judges to risk scum getting items in order to say "This guy is scum" when they could convey that through how they order the lists. It's just an easy nonsense argument to fight against as any alignment; especially since he didn't even bother to rationalize his argument in light of Artanis shooting down my plan. I think it was so fucking dumb it has to be town. That's all :D I prefer to think of him as chezinu.
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On August 14 2017 19:17 Holyflare wrote: Here's what I posit to you guys:
A) Rayn quotes TW's bad post and writes two or three sentences on why it's bad.
B) Rayn writes a giant wall of text on TW's bad post.
A makes rayn mafia because it takes the same time to quote and write two sentences about a post as writing an afk excuse and no content.
B makes rayn mafia because it's a way overblown read on why TW's post is bad.
Let's not even get into the fact that rayn hadn't even called tw mafia. Just that his post is bad. What does this actually mean then?
Rayn is mafia in every scenario. it sounds like you are working under the assumption that rayn is already scum, so it is logical to posit that he is scum no matter what he does, but it's still stupid logic.
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Well it is easy to figure out if rayn is town or not after night 1 tbh (to me)
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On August 14 2017 23:58 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 19:17 Holyflare wrote: Here's what I posit to you guys:
A) Rayn quotes TW's bad post and writes two or three sentences on why it's bad.
B) Rayn writes a giant wall of text on TW's bad post.
A makes rayn mafia because it takes the same time to quote and write two sentences about a post as writing an afk excuse and no content.
B makes rayn mafia because it's a way overblown read on why TW's post is bad.
Let's not even get into the fact that rayn hadn't even called tw mafia. Just that his post is bad. What does this actually mean then?
Rayn is mafia in every scenario. it sounds like you are working under the assumption that rayn is already scum, so it is logical to posit that he is scum no matter what he does, but it's still stupid logic.
That was the point of this post. No fucking shit.
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Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post.
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Ritoky moves up for being a prophet and static tw just destroys instead of builds. Welcome to the three nominated townies ritoky.
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On August 14 2017 22:43 Conversion wrote: I feel like HF just pressures the people he wants to believe are town the hardest because he probably feels like he has the best shot if he can townread 1-2 strong players and go from there this is not logic i have seen before, and i do not think it is something scum would or could make up if they are trying to blend in / look productive. town
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On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post. TW is approaching the game super differently from last game. Literally not a single read but spends his time poopooing reads.
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On August 15 2017 00:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post. TW is approaching the game super differently from last game. Literally not a single read but spends his time poopooing reads. Ok 1 read, but it's super shitty. Point still stands
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On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post. maybe you don't want or aren't able to post the analysis? dunno bout you but in my experience town have enough motivation to do it plenty of the time. and then what would be the motivation for scum trying to look like town?
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Yeh I think that conversion one comes from a place of "i know conversion is town" because a mafia could easily make that read. Conversion could know I'm town and pressing rayn to get a read but it's a logic leap.
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On August 15 2017 00:11 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post. maybe you don't want or aren't able to post the analysis? dunno bout you but in my experience town have enough motivation to do it plenty of the time. and then what would be the motivation for scum trying to look like town?
I mean you write it yourself. I even quote in this game a post of Rayn's 3 games ago WHERE HE MAKES THE SAME EXACT POST AND WAS MAFIA. Loooooool.
If you can find where he does this as town instead of just instantly posting his reads go ahead and prove me wrong.
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On August 14 2017 18:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass. Same old, same old. Plz vig.
This quote is from 3(?) games ago where rayn was mafia. Compare to last game where he's just happy and forthright and wants everyone to know what he's thinking.
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