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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:42 GMT
#3081
On August 22 2017 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:03 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it wasn't far fetched at all HF/ritoky/Jealous are mafia. Holyflare has the town credit already on D1. ritoky is away. Damdred scumreads ritoky. Damdred -- whose btw ONLY scumread, i think he actually trusted on, was ritoky -- gets shot. Magically at the same time Holyflare green checks ritoky.

Holyflare read me mafia at the start of the game because i was trying to break the game (aka have judges nominate 2 mafia guys and one town guy). Holyflare doesn't claim the green check UNTIL ritoky is nominated for the lynch. I LITERALLY DID TRY TO PLAN THE SAME KIND OF THING AT THE START OF THE GAME, and he called me mafia for it....

When there is a green check claimed, ritoky stop doing shit. Now i know what you were saying earlier ritoky, but i didn't mean "up until this you have been playing properly as usual". I was saying there was a time, before this, when you seemed to pick up on the game and again, when the claim came, you stopped. That's how i felt.

Holyflare bullies everyone into voting Rels. Even when Rels flips town Holyflare blames everyone who were NOT voting for Rels.... reasoning is "Jealous wouldn't give me the power up D1", when this is the votecount:
On August 16 2017 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Best Artists

Jealous (3): Hopeless1der, Jealous, Tumblewood, Conversion, geript, Rels
Holyflare (5): geript, Holyflare, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Hopeless1der, geript
CopCake (4): CopCake, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, ritoky

Not Voting (1): Onegu


In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread.

On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
##Vote HolyFlare

Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!

I mean like... Everything is so fucking convenient if Holyflare, ritoky, and Jealous are mafia. But:
Then there is the no kill. And i don't think Holyflare no shoots. I mean it is not like it's even a bad strategy because you become "confimed town" and will 100% receive a vig shot, i just don't think he does it, because he can just shoot someone, be almost confirmed town anyways and also most likely receive the vig shot. But i don't think there was anything wrong with my conclusion earlier, except for the conclusion.



On August 21 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
so rayn are you going to explain how you went from rels is definitely mafia to rels posting nothing to rels is town let's lynch jealous or you're going to let that ominously float around unexplained?

I simply thought Rels wasnt making up anything, was being honest, and didn't care about surviving. That's it. Trust me, i wouldn't want anything but to lynch Rels from those two yesterday if i was mafia. I just simply thought he is not mafia.

I think Tumblewood is town. Or thought.. idk i have to read him again today because i thought he was making sense last day on the lynch phase. On contrary what i said before, Cake doesn't really bus. Also they were both on Jealous and i think Jealous is mafia so i don't think they are both mafia. I think Conversion is still town. I think that makes Eversince mafia, she basically has to be mafia since Jealous is mafia too and nothing else makes sense to me. Then one of Cake / Tumblewood.

##vote geript


The "Holyflair" survival for the death of someone else at night doesnt clear him. If I was mafia and HF is town I would have killed "x" person, someone that is not posting a lot, HF mafia decided not to shoot to prove he got a "vest"

Ask yourself this when you get back:

From all the players... Who would have been fooled that HF got a cop? Which mafia would have missed the opportunity to kill someone else? Why HF? Even Geript said that it was an unexperience mafia team so... Who is the unexperienced?

HF tries to clear himself with every fucking actions, even silly ones and contradicts himself, look he said the judges are stupid, pick bad people and then he said that the judges carefuly picked him twice because he is so town and that I should accept him as town for that when I also got picked twice (3 times now) in this game, if Holyflare is honest in his logic I am the most extreme confirmed town.

I dont understand what you are asking.

If holyflare is town, mafia got fooled on what he picked, most likely. In that situation yes, it is likely it is inexperienced mafia team.

I consider everyone inexperienced except for me, geript and ritoky. Hopeless isnt exactly inexperienced but for this particular scenario i dont think he counts.


Who would be the unexperienced group who believed HF taking vest?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 15:44 GMT
#3082
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.


Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot.

i haven't at any point acted too certain about my scumreads. except at eod2 when i really was that confident on you, and said so. and even if you don't understand them, i think my townreads are very good, and that is reflected too.
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:09 GMT
#3083
On August 22 2017 00:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.


Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot.

i haven't at any point acted too certain about my scumreads. except at eod2 when i really was that confident on you, and said so. and even if you don't understand them, i think my townreads are very good, and that is reflected too.


I mean that's my point. I'm used to you, as town, just making bold statements declaring someone an alignment. Here it's naybes and ifs ans buts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:17 GMT
#3084
On August 22 2017 00:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.


Your obsesion for trying to clear yourself, lying for the rayn mod cleared, overall town not winning atm. I had you in a high spot as a scumhunter.


I'm not trying to clear myself, I'm trying to get reads off of other people since I'm correct and they're wrong.

When on earth did I lie about rayn being mod confirmed? I genuinely believed it at the time.

Town not winning? No shit. We've had 1 cycle of all likely town people that nobody wanted and another that could ALSO be all town. None of those lynches are what I wanted as a primary lynch and this is why the game is shit.

I would have lynched tw day one because that clears up at least two people's alignments (yours and rayn's). I would have used that info to determine the rest of the town's motives because then hopeless wouldn't be able to fall back on that being his only read, geript too.

But no, we're stuck here in this shitty endless loop where the actual lynch people wanted hasn't been up for two cycles.

I don't work on imperfect information. My skill as a town player is working on lynch information and nks that we just don't have. (nks suggest mafia team that doesn't know me).

None of these are actually reasons to scum read anybody, let alone only be "15% wrong".

I think this read is extremely fabricated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:25 GMT
#3085
I mean it's just flat out stupidity to think that as mafia anyone would extend their win by a whole extra cycle just because. I fucking hate playing as mafia (even though I'm good at it). I don't want to be in this game any longer than I have to.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:26 GMT
#3086
hm i was looking at the wrong vote....my jealous read is a lot weaker now. sad days.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#3087
oh god i still have to vote for this reward....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#3088
hf why you voting conv? to protest?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 21 2017 17:38 GMT
#3089
On August 22 2017 02:36 ritoky wrote:
hf why you voting conv? to protest?

i think it may be bolded part here:
On August 22 2017 02:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.


Your obsesion for trying to clear yourself, lying for the rayn mod cleared, overall town not winning atm. I had you in a high spot as a scumhunter.


I'm not trying to clear myself, I'm trying to get reads off of other people since I'm correct and they're wrong.

When on earth did I lie about rayn being mod confirmed? I genuinely believed it at the time.

Town not winning? No shit. We've had 1 cycle of all likely town people that nobody wanted and another that could ALSO be all town. None of those lynches are what I wanted as a primary lynch and this is why the game is shit.

I would have lynched tw day one because that clears up at least two people's alignments (yours and rayn's). I would have used that info to determine the rest of the town's motives because then hopeless wouldn't be able to fall back on that being his only read, geript too.

But no, we're stuck here in this shitty endless loop where the actual lynch people wanted hasn't been up for two cycles.

I don't work on imperfect information. My skill as a town player is working on lynch information and nks that we just don't have. (nks suggest mafia team that doesn't know me).

None of these are actually reasons to scum read anybody, let alone only be "15% wrong".

I think this read is extremely fabricated.

though i was about to ask too.
cause atm i am at geript > conv > copcake

but am "only" at page 92 so far. just got home. gimme some time to eat etc
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:41 GMT
#3090
Geript been pretty towny and has reads and hasn't died for two cycles. They tried to shoot me last night which means geript isn't a threat to them or is mafia.

I chooose possibly mafia but maybe not :D I can't tell until tw dies.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2017 17:43 GMT
#3091
On August 22 2017 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
Geript been pretty towny and has reads and hasn't died for two cycles. They tried to shoot me last night which means geript isn't a threat to them or is mafia.

I chooose possibly mafia but maybe not :D I can't tell until tw dies.

So if TW is scum, I'm Town? And vice Versa? i really don't get why you're even trying to push that TW is my only read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:44 GMT
#3092
If geript is also mafia I trust him to do some bs sneaky play like "i saved hf" and there be no nk or some shit. So conversion is a much more basic and straightforward approach. He saves me and then we see if there's a nk on him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:45 GMT
#3093
On August 22 2017 02:43 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
Geript been pretty towny and has reads and hasn't died for two cycles. They tried to shoot me last night which means geript isn't a threat to them or is mafia.

I chooose possibly mafia but maybe not :D I can't tell until tw dies.

So if TW is scum, I'm Town? And vice Versa? i really don't get why you're even trying to push that TW is my only read.


It's probably not but it's all anyone is really pushing so it's all I remember.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2017 17:46 GMT
#3094
On August 22 2017 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
If geript is also mafia I trust him to do some bs sneaky play like "i saved hf" and there be no nk or some shit. So conversion is a much more basic and straightforward approach. He saves me and then we see if there's a nk on him

And the truth comes out... you really just want me to die so things are clear.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10315 Posts
August 21 2017 17:46 GMT
#3095
On August 22 2017 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
If geript is also mafia I trust him to do some bs sneaky play like "i saved hf" and there be no nk or some shit. So conversion is a much more basic and straightforward approach. He saves me and then we see if there's a nk on him

The wine is overflowing, the cup runneth ova
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:47 GMT
#3096
And no that's not strictly what I think that if he's town you're mafia but it's what you and hopeless do after him flipping that determines what you are.

If he's mafia you two are likely town though and so are rayn and cake.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2017 17:47 GMT
#3097
Like, you get bitchy about people making that same argument against you. If you want to bitch, the read my filter. If I'm scum, it's obvious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:47 GMT
#3098
On August 22 2017 02:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
If geript is also mafia I trust him to do some bs sneaky play like "i saved hf" and there be no nk or some shit. So conversion is a much more basic and straightforward approach. He saves me and then we see if there's a nk on him

And the truth comes out... you really just want me to die so things are clear.


No i just want tw to be killed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 17:51 GMT
#3099
On August 22 2017 02:47 geript wrote:
Like, you get bitchy about people making that same argument against you. If you want to bitch, the read my filter. If I'm scum, it's obvious.


I already said you're towny? Don't see the problem. Also those arguments are different because damdred died and I got shot this game. Which is bizarre land.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2017 17:56 GMT
#3100
On August 22 2017 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 02:47 geript wrote:
Like, you get bitchy about people making that same argument against you. If you want to bitch, the read my filter. If I'm scum, it's obvious.


I already said you're towny? Don't see the problem. Also those arguments are different because damdred died and I got shot this game. Which is bizarre land.

Because it's a dumb argument and a dumb vote. You're being all the people you bitch about who make the "you're still alive" argument. Like last game I had a good read on you, defended you despite the dumb fake redcheck, and had such a good read that I wasn't likely to lynch you even if you hadn't rescinded the check on Rels. It's also kinda funny because I get to call you a total puss from now on.
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