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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:50 GMT
#3061
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 21 2017 14:55 GMT
#3062
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:03 GMT
#3063
On August 21 2017 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it wasn't far fetched at all HF/ritoky/Jealous are mafia. Holyflare has the town credit already on D1. ritoky is away. Damdred scumreads ritoky. Damdred -- whose btw ONLY scumread, i think he actually trusted on, was ritoky -- gets shot. Magically at the same time Holyflare green checks ritoky.

Holyflare read me mafia at the start of the game because i was trying to break the game (aka have judges nominate 2 mafia guys and one town guy). Holyflare doesn't claim the green check UNTIL ritoky is nominated for the lynch. I LITERALLY DID TRY TO PLAN THE SAME KIND OF THING AT THE START OF THE GAME, and he called me mafia for it....

When there is a green check claimed, ritoky stop doing shit. Now i know what you were saying earlier ritoky, but i didn't mean "up until this you have been playing properly as usual". I was saying there was a time, before this, when you seemed to pick up on the game and again, when the claim came, you stopped. That's how i felt.

Holyflare bullies everyone into voting Rels. Even when Rels flips town Holyflare blames everyone who were NOT voting for Rels.... reasoning is "Jealous wouldn't give me the power up D1", when this is the votecount:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Best Artists

Jealous (3): Hopeless1der, Jealous, Tumblewood, Conversion, geript, Rels
Holyflare (5): geript, Holyflare, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Hopeless1der, geript
CopCake (4): CopCake, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, ritoky

Not Voting (1): Onegu


In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
##Vote HolyFlare

Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!

I mean like... Everything is so fucking convenient if Holyflare, ritoky, and Jealous are mafia. But:
Then there is the no kill. And i don't think Holyflare no shoots. I mean it is not like it's even a bad strategy because you become "confimed town" and will 100% receive a vig shot, i just don't think he does it, because he can just shoot someone, be almost confirmed town anyways and also most likely receive the vig shot. But i don't think there was anything wrong with my conclusion earlier, except for the conclusion.



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On August 21 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
so rayn are you going to explain how you went from rels is definitely mafia to rels posting nothing to rels is town let's lynch jealous or you're going to let that ominously float around unexplained?

I simply thought Rels wasnt making up anything, was being honest, and didn't care about surviving. That's it. Trust me, i wouldn't want anything but to lynch Rels from those two yesterday if i was mafia. I just simply thought he is not mafia.

I think Tumblewood is town. Or thought.. idk i have to read him again today because i thought he was making sense last day on the lynch phase. On contrary what i said before, Cake doesn't really bus. Also they were both on Jealous and i think Jealous is mafia so i don't think they are both mafia. I think Conversion is still town. I think that makes Eversince mafia, she basically has to be mafia since Jealous is mafia too and nothing else makes sense to me. Then one of Cake / Tumblewood.

##vote geript


The "Holyflair" survival for the death of someone else at night doesnt clear him. If I was mafia and HF is town I would have killed "x" person, someone that is not posting a lot, HF mafia decided not to shoot to prove he got a "vest"

Ask yourself this when you get back:

From all the players... Who would have been fooled that HF got a cop? Which mafia would have missed the opportunity to kill someone else? Why HF? Even Geript said that it was an unexperience mafia team so... Who is the unexperienced?

HF tries to clear himself with every fucking actions, even silly ones and contradicts himself, look he said the judges are stupid, pick bad people and then he said that the judges carefuly picked him twice because he is so town and that I should accept him as town for that when I also got picked twice (3 times now) in this game, if Holyflare is honest in his logic I am the most extreme confirmed town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:06 GMT
#3064
You knows that logic for two different people doesn't have to be applied in the same way right?

It's a lot harder to see me as town after my many mafia victories than it is to see you an alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:07 GMT
#3065
How about answering my questions? Because you certainly haven't.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:07 GMT
#3066
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:07 GMT
#3067
On August 21 2017 23:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 23:33 CopCake wrote:
I am tired of answering the same thing over and over.



Quote me your answer then please.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:09 GMT
#3068
On August 22 2017 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
How about answering my questions? Because you certainly haven't.


I treat people the way they treat me, I asked you for reads first and you dissapeared saying you wouldnt do it.

Except that I am more polite I think.

Kinda bitchy too I also think.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 21 2017 15:12 GMT
#3069
On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"


OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much

is that right?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:16 GMT
#3070
On August 22 2017 00:12 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"


OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much

is that right?


Yes. Have you played with him or he is generally like this?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 21 2017 15:18 GMT
#3071
On August 22 2017 00:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:12 Conversion wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"


OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much

is that right?


Yes. Have you played with him or he is generally like this?


I have no idea if he is generally like this. I read through his database games, and he didn't seem to be at a cursory glance. (this is like my 5th game of mafia here, 3rd game if we're not counting the games from 2012)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:22 GMT
#3072
I think this is a completely different situation copcake. I am clearly a mafia read of yours but you have no drive to get me lynched whatsoever. Your tactic is to berate anyone that has any kind of logic that I'm town but do absolutely nothing to prove why my behaviour is mafia.

I think your reads don't actually exist. You've repeatedly been asked to provide evidence as to why I'm mafia but have failed on several occasions. Your logic that you used before is a double standard that you didn't apply to eversince.

You have used me being on fecalfeast as evidence to why I am mafia and a bad town leader but not once delved into my motivation or even asked me why I was on him. Nor have you stated that I didn't want to lynch any of them. You're simply not interested in discovering whether I am mafia or not or questioning my thought processes.

You flipped out on me after rels was lynched but rels was a perfectly fine lynch. Nothing he said actually said anything at all and if I had the chance again I'd lynch him all over again.

I am just going to say it, I think you're mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:24 GMT
#3073
On August 22 2017 00:18 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:16 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:12 Conversion wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"


OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much

is that right?


Yes. Have you played with him or he is generally like this?


I have no idea if he is generally like this. I read through his database games, and he didn't seem to be at a cursory glance. (this is like my 5th game of mafia here, 3rd game if we're not counting the games from 2012)


Well he started to fuck up when the vig shot question. The only person who took him serious was Jelaous and I had theory that it could be mvm interaction and Jelaous trying to not make him look bad.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:26 GMT
#3074
On August 22 2017 00:22 Holyflare wrote:
I think this is a completely different situation copcake. I am clearly a mafia read of yours but you have no drive to get me lynched whatsoever. Your tactic is to berate anyone that has any kind of logic that I'm town but do absolutely nothing to prove why my behaviour is mafia.

I think your reads don't actually exist. You've repeatedly been asked to provide evidence as to why I'm mafia but have failed on several occasions. Your logic that you used before is a double standard that you didn't apply to eversince.

You have used me being on fecalfeast as evidence to why I am mafia and a bad town leader but not once delved into my motivation or even asked me why I was on him. Nor have you stated that I didn't want to lynch any of them. You're simply not interested in discovering whether I am mafia or not or questioning my thought processes.

You flipped out on me after rels was lynched but rels was a perfectly fine lynch. Nothing he said actually said anything at all and if I had the chance again I'd lynch him all over again.

I am just going to say it, I think you're mafia.


I am just proving you are not 100% cleared with your "actions" like the "green check" or "claiming vest and not dying"

I have you as highly mafia but there is like a 15% chance I am wrong because I consider Ritoki's words of your meta.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 21 2017 15:33 GMT
#3075
busy day at work so no chance of me doing stuff until tonight.
voted geript.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3076
On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3077
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3078
On August 22 2017 00:03 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it wasn't far fetched at all HF/ritoky/Jealous are mafia. Holyflare has the town credit already on D1. ritoky is away. Damdred scumreads ritoky. Damdred -- whose btw ONLY scumread, i think he actually trusted on, was ritoky -- gets shot. Magically at the same time Holyflare green checks ritoky.

Holyflare read me mafia at the start of the game because i was trying to break the game (aka have judges nominate 2 mafia guys and one town guy). Holyflare doesn't claim the green check UNTIL ritoky is nominated for the lynch. I LITERALLY DID TRY TO PLAN THE SAME KIND OF THING AT THE START OF THE GAME, and he called me mafia for it....

When there is a green check claimed, ritoky stop doing shit. Now i know what you were saying earlier ritoky, but i didn't mean "up until this you have been playing properly as usual". I was saying there was a time, before this, when you seemed to pick up on the game and again, when the claim came, you stopped. That's how i felt.

Holyflare bullies everyone into voting Rels. Even when Rels flips town Holyflare blames everyone who were NOT voting for Rels.... reasoning is "Jealous wouldn't give me the power up D1", when this is the votecount:
On August 16 2017 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Best Artists

Jealous (3): Hopeless1der, Jealous, Tumblewood, Conversion, geript, Rels
Holyflare (5): geript, Holyflare, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Hopeless1der, geript
CopCake (4): CopCake, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, ritoky

Not Voting (1): Onegu


In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread.

On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
##Vote HolyFlare

Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!

I mean like... Everything is so fucking convenient if Holyflare, ritoky, and Jealous are mafia. But:
Then there is the no kill. And i don't think Holyflare no shoots. I mean it is not like it's even a bad strategy because you become "confimed town" and will 100% receive a vig shot, i just don't think he does it, because he can just shoot someone, be almost confirmed town anyways and also most likely receive the vig shot. But i don't think there was anything wrong with my conclusion earlier, except for the conclusion.



On August 21 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
so rayn are you going to explain how you went from rels is definitely mafia to rels posting nothing to rels is town let's lynch jealous or you're going to let that ominously float around unexplained?

I simply thought Rels wasnt making up anything, was being honest, and didn't care about surviving. That's it. Trust me, i wouldn't want anything but to lynch Rels from those two yesterday if i was mafia. I just simply thought he is not mafia.

I think Tumblewood is town. Or thought.. idk i have to read him again today because i thought he was making sense last day on the lynch phase. On contrary what i said before, Cake doesn't really bus. Also they were both on Jealous and i think Jealous is mafia so i don't think they are both mafia. I think Conversion is still town. I think that makes Eversince mafia, she basically has to be mafia since Jealous is mafia too and nothing else makes sense to me. Then one of Cake / Tumblewood.

##vote geript


The "Holyflair" survival for the death of someone else at night doesnt clear him. If I was mafia and HF is town I would have killed "x" person, someone that is not posting a lot, HF mafia decided not to shoot to prove he got a "vest"

Ask yourself this when you get back:

From all the players... Who would have been fooled that HF got a cop? Which mafia would have missed the opportunity to kill someone else? Why HF? Even Geript said that it was an unexperience mafia team so... Who is the unexperienced?

HF tries to clear himself with every fucking actions, even silly ones and contradicts himself, look he said the judges are stupid, pick bad people and then he said that the judges carefuly picked him twice because he is so town and that I should accept him as town for that when I also got picked twice (3 times now) in this game, if Holyflare is honest in his logic I am the most extreme confirmed town.

I dont understand what you are asking.

If holyflare is town, mafia got fooled on what he picked, most likely. In that situation yes, it is likely it is inexperienced mafia team.

I consider everyone inexperienced except for me, geript and ritoky. Hopeless isnt exactly inexperienced but for this particular scenario i dont think he counts.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3079
On August 22 2017 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.


Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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August 21 2017 15:41 GMT
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On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.


Your obsesion for trying to clear yourself, lying for the rayn mod cleared, overall town not winning atm. I had you in a high spot as a scumhunter.
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