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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:12 GMT
#1269
I mean i haven't read a thing ff has posted ao that's probably why.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:13 GMT
#1270
Oh actualllllly was ff the one who said jealous should stop posting in pictures and use words after he already had?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:15 GMT
#1272
Yeh if anything I'd switch hopeless and ff. No idea why I forgot all these egregious ff things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:15 GMT
#1273
Cool I'm on board let's go.

##vote Fecalfeast
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:19 GMT
#1275
Actually read that bit in ff filter and I like his explanation. I don't know why the judges have put both ff and hopeless in a thing together. They aren't likely mafia together at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:20 GMT
#1276
I actually hated how ott hopeless was trying to push that point now that I remember. That's why he's down.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:30 GMT
#1282
Especially when inactives don't get modkilled....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 13:41 GMT
#1285
I dunno this game is super confusing. There's like 7 people that could be mafia and none of them want to do shit to become town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 15:50 GMT
#1312
On August 17 2017 00:39 CopCake wrote:
I am also no one bothered to see that HF asked me for links when he confronted me on my read on rayn as town and mentioned two links when we were scum together and he is later like i dont care for links i dont care for you meta reading bla bla bla (His posts were super agressive)

Same with the Conversion playing with the idea of me being scum with rayn, HF ordered me (not ask, order is the right word) to quote the person and when I did "Lol it doesnt matter it is just one person lol lol lol"


If you can quote where I asked you for links and to quote ONE person i will lynch myself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 15:59 GMT
#1316
On August 17 2017 00:39 Jealous wrote:
Quick catch-up post:

1. @conversion: Cop couldn't be in the lynch pool, please familiarize yourself with the game because this was a major point in the early hours of phase 1 to the point where Artanis had to step in.

2. @HF: Looking at your progression throughout the game through memory, it looks a lot like this: spend the majority of your time antagonizing rayn which becomes the main topic of conversation for many hours and gets heated and likely contributed to him being in the lynch pool, throw in some okayish reads on other people but don't discuss them much (until recently), then claim to have vig shot and to have shot rayn while also claiming that he is townlock which effectively "made him quit" and ushered in a decent period of silence from everyone, then come back and judge people for still voting for rayn. There are different ways to interpret this:

1. That you were in fact in the heat of the moment and kicked in the door guns blazing and have cooled off, and that Artanis' post does in your mind town lock rayn, and that you genuinely do think the vote should be on one of FF/H1.

2. You almost singlehandedly sparked into motion a series of events which led to approximately 36 hours of almost no one doing anything not - rayn related, or at least not close to what it would be if you hadn't launched your endless assault. Then you tell people to not vote rayn.

I can see 1. I can also kinda see 2, but if the ends is confirming one town (in your mind) and simultaneously killing their motivation to play, I don't know how much I like that. My wariness is rising and I'm not going to take my vote off rayn just because you said so. I want to see this chapter closed and see what the outcome is without a doubt so that there are no lingering questions. It would be a marvelous scum performance if it was MvM, perhaps overplayed but I can't let the possibility of that go. Ultimately, while I don't think the judges are infallible, they did nominate rayn so as you said earlier, I feel justified.

Also, heavy misrepresentation on your part when you say I have all 50/50 reads. I said that H1 and geript are hard town for me. I said that Damdred is scum lean. I said that rayn townlean. Please no misrep. Also curious how I moved down your list in towniness with no input on my part, after you said that my vote for you was the "towniest thing ever" but I can understand the wifom involved in that as well (I was curious why no one other than you said anything about it and you viewed it so purely positively... that's a topic for another discussion. For the record I just couldn't risk it going to CopCake).

3.@geript: Thank you!


Scum reads aee the only important thing. Mafia can easily make 100 town reads but it's harder to fabricate mafia reads. See this post for a prime example of why you've dropped down. 50/50 on me again.

I also forgot about your vote

Rayn being removed from the game is nothing but good imo. His attitude was toxic but that doesn't mean he's not confirmed town. I did NOT shut down conversation for 36 hours in the slightest. This happened less than 24 hours ago and all morning I've talked with geript and conversion and we've produced content so that is frankly quite dishonest.

Talking about rayn being scummy when he was scummy is not a bad thing. At least the judges and apparently you agree because you're voting for him. This is actually quite a confusing point you raise. Is this a criticism? Why is it bad for me to talk about the person you now want to lynch? Why do you want to lynch him when he's a town read?

I also don't understand why everyone suddenly dropped their votes on rayn just because I shot him but didn't even bother to look at the other two?? Doesn't make sense to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 16:05 GMT
#1317
On August 17 2017 00:46 Conversion wrote:
anyways sorry I sounded a bit more aggressive than I wanted to

regardless! jealous, cop, and FF what are your thoughts on rayn trying to get removed/replaced and saying that in the thread? do you think that's a scum play (in which case HF looks suspect for giving him a town pass based on that)

as much as I got into an over the line argument with rayn, and dislike his play in this game, I don't see that being a good mafia play.. like normally you'd get modkilled for stuff like that, no? or is he pushing the boundaries of what he can fake because he can't be modkilled.. hm


Read mafia qt last game where rayn says to me:

"you can't lie about host actions because this is not something for people to believe or not"

If he has lied here he should be banned for a long while. He also wouldn't qq out because he's getting scum read as mafia imo. That's the game. He's town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 16:08 GMT
#1318
On August 17 2017 00:43 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 00:29 CopCake wrote:
On August 17 2017 00:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 17 2017 00:19 CopCake wrote:
Tbh hopeless asked me several random things like why is he a duck or why you are fish

What's your point? You asked jealous if hes from russia.


Nothing, I am just angry/salty that I have been answering all the fucking questions but "I do nothing" then people should stop to ask me silly questions.

Be in my place and notice how frustrating it is.

You have to be pushing the game forward of your own volition, not merely sitting and waiting for people to notice you and ask you questions. Maybe then people will say that you have done something, or you could have a better filter to fall back on. Simply sitting back, only providing the minimum asked, and claiming to be forgetful while not looking at filters are all bad play if not at least slightly scummy.


This is precisely why I find cop scummy. She says she's doing things but it's just responses instead. She's also trying to push me being narcissistic as scummy when that's just who I am in every game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 16:15 GMT
#1319
Fuck it jealous ignore my post your vote was towny as fuck
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 16:38 GMT
#1321
I tried to post coherent arguments, at least I thought I did. I just didn't get a single response that answered any of my questions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 16:39 GMT
#1322
Have you made any conclusions Eversince?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 17:28 GMT
#1323
Cool good to know
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 17:30 GMT
#1324
Sooo what are people who are still voting rayn using as an excuse now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 18:35 GMT
#1330
I don't think anyone cares anymore. It's partly because the game is 72 hours before anyone actually dies and partly because none of the people were anyone's scum reads (apart from rayn) and also the fact if you do find mafia and they're not up for lynch wtf do you do?

Also the fact that with yolo judges this phase you have 24 hours to make your mind up about some people you don't even particularly want to lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 18:37 GMT
#1331
HF: I generally liked his train of thought. Same problem as with Rayn though, I skimmed some bulk/ antagonistic points. I really think the mod confirming of Rayn is ridiculous because Rayn didn't actually rage quit so he was never playing against win con. Just as much as him claiming to have shot in his mind confirmed town isn't playing against his wincon because we don't know Rayn's alignment.

Why am I null then? Everything here says I should be town. Also rayn is CONFIRMED not lying about mods not letting him leave the game. This is confirmed fact that he tried to leave the game and mods wouldn't let him. Whether you attribute that to an alignment is up to you. I personally do.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 16 2017 18:39 GMT
#1332
Also what do you like that copcake has pushed? What HAS she pushed other than ritoky mafia for hating being a clock and me for being narcissistic?
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