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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 03 2017 12:02 GMT
#1941
great HF is now locked onto the fact that I might be scum or 3P

I'm just going to ignore you now. no idea why I spent so much of my N1 trying to figure out what you and rsoul were saying
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 03 2017 12:03 GMT
#1942
On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1?


I don't know.
Someone must've given them to me.

I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time.


Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1?

I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.

IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 03 2017 12:04 GMT
#1943
Если бы вы послушали меня, мы бы линчевали мафию d1
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 03 2017 12:04 GMT
#1944
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 03 2017 12:06 GMT
#1945
On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1?


I don't know.
Someone must've given them to me.

I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time.


Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1?

I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.

IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good

I didn't.
I don't understand the bolded, who are you referencing ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 03 2017 12:07 GMT
#1946
On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.

like, you're drawing an association between DF and the lazy voters, but you didn't shoot DF to verify it, nor you scumread DF very strongly. There is a disconnect here.
Points to you being partners TBH.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 03 2017 12:07 GMT
#1947
On August 03 2017 21:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1?


I don't know.
Someone must've given them to me.

I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time.


Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1?

I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.

IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good

I didn't.
I don't understand the bolded, who are you referencing ?


TicTock was the one who tried to give ruxxar matches. He confirmed it didn't do anything D1, and then got lynched.

Unless items can be given posthumously, I'm going under the idea that the matches never got to ruxxar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 03 2017 12:08 GMT
#1948
Преобразование, если вы 3p, тогда вы должны это утверждать.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 03 2017 12:09 GMT
#1949
On August 03 2017 21:07 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:06 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1?


I don't know.
Someone must've given them to me.

I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time.


Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1?

I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.

IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good

I didn't.
I don't understand the bolded, who are you referencing ?


TicTock was the one who tried to give ruxxar matches. He confirmed it didn't do anything D1, and then got lynched.

Unless items can be given posthumously, I'm going under the idea that the matches never got to ruxxar

Oh yeah I remember that. It's a good point actually. Don't know who would give away matches to another person D1 without more info. But TT specifically said he would give the matches to ruxxar. So we need to find out if (1) items can be given during the day and (2) if they can be given even if you're llynched at the same time.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 03 2017 12:12 GMT
#1950
On August 03 2017 21:08 Holyflare wrote:
Преобразование, если вы 3p, тогда вы должны это утверждать.


I am not 3P, I am town

whether anyone believes that or not is up to me and how I play this game
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:13 GMT
#1951
On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1?


I don't know.
Someone must've given them to me.

I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time.


Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1?

I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.

IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good


I also thought it was a night only action. It doesn't make sense to me either.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 03 2017 12:14 GMT
#1952
"Any item can be given to other person. You may use an item (or a combination of) or give one to another player AND use one power (aka if you have a night power you may do something regarding items AND use the power aswell during the night). Giving or using items counts as a visit."

This makes it seem like a night action.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:14 GMT
#1953
On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.


Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 03 2017 12:15 GMT
#1954
On August 03 2017 21:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.


Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum.

well we get back to the original question then. Why, apart from inactivity ? Cause that was my question and you answered "The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:15 GMT
#1955
On August 03 2017 21:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.

like, you're drawing an association between DF and the lazy voters, but you didn't shoot DF to verify it, nor you scumread DF very strongly. There is a disconnect here.
Points to you being partners TBH.


The textbook play was to shoot DF, but I thought I was going to be the hero and prove that I had the best scum reads LUL.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:22 GMT
#1956
On August 03 2017 21:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:14 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.


Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum.

well we get back to the original question then. Why, apart from inactivity ? Cause that was my question and you answered "The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF."


It's a general theme:

-Inactivity
-Forgettable(blending in)
-No will to solve the game when they show up(not making any waves or pushing people)
-Weak reads/no reads
-Excuses to be afk

In my eyes they might as well not even be in the game.

I rate thread engagement very highly as town favored.

You don't need to be super active, but at least when you are here, talk about the actual topics that are important and current in the game.
Throw out some original thoughts.
Don't be afraid to push your scum reads.

I don't see that in any of those.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:24 GMT
#1957
On August 03 2017 21:14 Conversion wrote:
"Any item can be given to other person. You may use an item (or a combination of) or give one to another player AND use one power (aka if you have a night power you may do something regarding items AND use the power aswell during the night). Giving or using items counts as a visit."

This makes it seem like a night action.


You forgot this part:

"Items can be used on any phase given the conditions on them are met..."
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:26 GMT
#1958
If phase means day/night or if it means day/night cycle I don't know.
That is a mod question for rayn I believe.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 03 2017 12:28 GMT
#1959
On August 03 2017 21:22 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:15 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 21:14 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.

I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.

Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.

Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.

yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.


I know, haven't had a power role in a long time.
Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.

Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.


Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done.
The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF.

I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information.
If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.

K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать.


I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia.

Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df.

People who just scoot by without getting noticed.

and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.


Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum.

well we get back to the original question then. Why, apart from inactivity ? Cause that was my question and you answered "The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF."


It's a general theme:

-Inactivity
-Forgettable(blending in)
-No will to solve the game when they show up(not making any waves or pushing people)
-Weak reads/no reads
-Excuses to be afk

In my eyes they might as well not even be in the game.

I rate thread engagement very highly as town favored.

You don't need to be super active, but at least when you are here, talk about the actual topics that are important and current in the game.
Throw out some original thoughts.
Don't be afraid to push your scum reads.

I don't see that in any of those.

that's the most generic thing you can use to scumread someone. Can you do a case on the dude you think is most likely scum ? A real case, no generic "he's AFK and has weak read" stuff.
Like for example, Damdred AFKing is NOT scum indicative. He's known to AFK recently. But him putting a lot of effort to convince rsoul THEN rsoul dies and he AFK again IS scum indicative.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 12:29 GMT
#1960
I think conversion rates slightly higher for her interaction with rsoul, I don't think that comes from mafia.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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