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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 09:51 GMT
#1401
RELS из того, что я помню, сделал хорошие посты. Я был впечатлен, когда он выкопал цитаты о дартфоли, а затем нажал на него больше. Я на самом деле очень склонен остерегать его на этом, потому что это имеет смысл в мире, где df пытается называть людей мафией, потому что он уже получил роль pm.

Выглядит неплохо. Счастлив, черт возьми, он играет d1.
On August 01 2017 20:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
[quote]

You seem very concerned with this question.


Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern.


Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them.


Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play.
It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise.

What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start.
People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look.


I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game


The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid.
Do you think it's scummy?


Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage

I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him?


You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy.

I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today.

?? BTDT does something before everyone even gets role PMs but he's scummy anyway ?



Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 09:51 GMT
#1402
Его пост Damdred не выглядит плохим. Damdred был ошибочно принят, и я также хотел дать Damdred по крайней мере еще один цикл после объяснений по почте. Damdred все еще может быть мафией, но этот пост ничуть не хуже, когда все пытались похоронить, заблудившись за то, что он был тусклым.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 09:57 GMT
#1403
On August 02 2017 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
RELS из того, что я помню, сделал хорошие посты. Я был впечатлен, когда он выкопал цитаты о дартфоли, а затем нажал на него больше. Я на самом деле очень склонен остерегать его на этом, потому что это имеет смысл в мире, где df пытается называть людей мафией, потому что он уже получил роль pm.

Выглядит неплохо. Счастлив, черт возьми, он играет d1.
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 20:53 Rels wrote:
On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:
On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern.


Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them.


Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play.
It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise.

What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start.
People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look.


I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game


The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid.
Do you think it's scummy?


Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage

I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him?


You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy.

I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today.

?? BTDT does something before everyone even gets role PMs but he's scummy anyway ?




Myeah I had the same feeling yesterday but started doubting when I was going to work. Ok he is fine for now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 09:59 GMT
#1404
On August 02 2017 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
Его пост Damdred не выглядит плохим. Damdred был ошибочно принят, и я также хотел дать Damdred по крайней мере еще один цикл после объяснений по почте. Damdred все еще может быть мафией, но этот пост ничуть не хуже, когда все пытались похоронить, заблудившись за то, что он был тусклым.

Bleh. Damdred made like 3 good posts this game and his entrance was weak as fuck. And I am not even sure those were 3 good posts.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:06 GMT
#1405
Removing everybody who made a post / chain of posts I liked I am stuck with Damdred/VA/Conversion. All others I can call town. Really sad we lynched TT. Knew he was town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:11 GMT
#1406
btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:16 GMT
#1407
On August 02 2017 02:11 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 14:10 Tictock wrote:
##Vote: VayneAuthority

VA and Damdred are who stand out to me ATM, but I feel better about a VA lynch for now.

Besides OMGUS the only thing I have against Damdred is he isn't standing out as Town to me like he often does. Neither of those are strong enough for a vote imo.

I could go either way with Ruxx ATM. Would be interested to hear why Koshi has him as lock Town.

Conversion is another one I'm unsure about. I really disliked his reactions to being pressured earlier and his opening did feel a bit off. Scummy side of null is where I'd put him if I had an actual list right now.

BtDt has been pretty active and engaged but a few of his reads feel off to me. I think the main thing hat stuck out to me was the bit on HF. I'd be more cautious about Town reading him than most have been thus far.

I think Rsoul, Cake, and Koshi are my easy Town reads for now. Cake and Rsoul for effort and pushing their own thoughts, Koshi more for tone.

Tumble seems Town, he can have a pass for now.

Everyone else (DF, and whoever else I'm forgetting right this second) I just don't have enough on to make a read on.

I also eagerly await anything from Rels with an alignment.


like I really hate this post

basically voting for VA because he scumread you and no real explanation on your vote
null read on damdred ok
ruxx is null for you too, but you'd rather hear the opinion of someone else instead of maybe generating content on your own to read and evaluate later
you scumlean me but you don't question anything I posted and you don't point anything out that overtly is scummy. you disregard every post after my opening and blowup reaction
cautious townread on BTDT ok
2 town reads based on effort and thought pushing (ironic when you haven't done anything really), and Koshi is town ok
tumble gets a free pass why?
too lazy to read everyone else

?? am I missing something from TT's usual play (aside from the 70hr workweek and being super busy) that is supposed to make me townread him over anyone else besides superbia in my head?

Especially the answer on this post from TT. TT quite clearly tried to solve the game in his post and Conversion just nitpicks 3ish reads. I don't understand how those 3 points make TT mafia, or why Conversion really hates the post.

This is in retrospect but still.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 10:18 GMT
#1408
On August 02 2017 19:11 Koshi wrote:
btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia.


Это совсем не так. Он был умен в попытке линчевать любого, кто мог, и на самом деле не интересовался их расстановкой. У его толчков даже не было сердца. Ему не сказали, что его волшебная сволочь прочитала меня, а затем перешла к тому, кого он мог бы Линч дальше.

Его переписка читалась как попугай быка, который раньше говорил. Он просто копирует настроения и толкает то, что он может сделать.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:30 GMT
#1409
VA scumread Ruxxar and TT the entire game which doesn't make much sense.
On August 01 2017 22:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 17:15 Koshi wrote:
On August 01 2017 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I am very suspicious of tictock and ruxxar because im pretty sure I know exactly what the matches do, and it was completely out of nowhere unless they contact elsewhere.

But at the same top it just seems overly scummy/nonchalant so I don't know what to make of it.

Anyone also in favor of flipping ruxxar/tictock to figure this out should vote accordingly


On August 01 2017 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 01 2017 05:38 Koshi wrote:
Going to call with gf.

I don't think Ruxxar is ever mafia here. Odd so many people think that. I would scumread HF for pushing only that idea but meh.



because of redacted. look how he interpreted my posts and he straight up asked me for a role claim. His play is also different too but its a theme game so meh. I don't know what HF is pushing because im too lazy to translate any of his posts but hopefully he is doing something useful.

I don't understand why both mafia!Ruxxar and mafia!TT would show face trading an item in the thread using a command that isn't even needed... They can just trade by PM.

So if you believe it creates KP, one shouldn't be mafia, yet you mafia read both. I don't like that at all VA.


well yea I acknowledged that its pointless at face value, I am scumreading them both independent of that, that is the difference. Moreso tictock then ruxxar though. Although he is playing quite different as I said, could be due to theme or scum who knows. He is still playing the super tunnel style on copcake right now.

And im not sure whether him hating LSD is good or bad yet

Also when I call him out that his previous main reason for scumreading them (the item trading) doesn't make any sense. He backtracks his previous main reason and says he scumreads them individually. Which is possible but it makes more sense this comes from a mafia trying to denie having made a mistake.

On August 01 2017 22:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote:
On August 01 2017 22:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 01 2017 22:08 Damdred wrote:
Yeah i think va is just wrong about the matches tbh.

Like I'm pretty sure he's wrong unless ruxx and tt are scum together. Which would be stupid maki ng the aannounement in that way anyway. It doesn't make either of them anything


I don't think im wrong about the matches, but yes its pretty certain im wrong about at least one of them because it doesnt really make sense. I just don't get why he would be giving ruxxar an item so early with no info when he is far from confirmed town.

If somebody can make a convincing case ill move but don't really see anything better then tictock especially after his lazy OMGUS vote (didnt really explain why im mafia as far as im concerned or I would reconsider if he looked to be solving the game)


Whats your opinion on DF and damdred?


I am vaguely aware that DF is in the game, didnt look at him much yet. I remember thinking scum lean/null and to let him collect himself in a themed game.

Damdred is experienced and would be hard to catch in a themed game, his posts look fine so far but pretty hard null until interesting things happen. I think only mechanics will help us catch him if scum tbh

VA also has no townreads at all. Even Damdred whos posts have been fine is called a hard null. So there is nobody VA can't vote for.

On August 02 2017 05:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
im back for like 15 mins, feel free to ask any questions before deadline. Im not going to lynch damdred atm purely because he townreads me. If he's scum im confident the game will show it by day 3. What else is legitimately up for lynch besides tictock?

VA being nervous TT will flip town and trying to shove some of the blame away here? Also why does he want to change away from TT? Nothing in his filter indicates this.

On August 02 2017 06:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
im actually pretty happy, that role looks fucking awful for town

On August 02 2017 06:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
nothing good would have come from a role that announces nukes in thread and have a high chance of killing other town or yourself who was also town.

Borderline 3P

I don't like his reaction to the lynch as well. He knows he started this wagon and this looks like mafia trying to downplay the ml.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:32 GMT
#1410
On August 02 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 19:11 Koshi wrote:
btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia.


Это совсем не так. Он был умен в попытке линчевать любого, кто мог, и на самом деле не интересовался их расстановкой. У его толчков даже не было сердца. Ему не сказали, что его волшебная сволочь прочитала меня, а затем перешла к тому, кого он мог бы Линч дальше.

Его переписка читалась как попугай быка, который раньше говорил. Он просто копирует настроения и толкает то, что он может сделать.

I disagree. His play fits his mental state in the game. He didn't have a preferred lynch so he made a lot of noise. It was ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:33 GMT
#1411
Damdred is just terrible and should always have been the lynch. Dnu what rsoultin sees in his filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 10:34 GMT
#1412
Значит, вы просто проигнорируете, как он сказал, что кекс и я не могли быть мафией вместе, но думали, что мы оба мафия?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:36 GMT
#1413
On August 02 2017 19:34 Holyflare wrote:
Значит, вы просто проигнорируете, как он сказал, что кекс и я не могли быть мафией вместе, но думали, что мы оба мафия?

meh. It was a very weak scumread and people forget things. If it would be his 3 only posts I would care but now I don't.
I had a good night of sleep.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 02 2017 10:40 GMT
#1414
On August 02 2017 19:11 Koshi wrote:
btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia.


I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD.

Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.
His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy.
Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random.

Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease?

It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:42 GMT
#1415
Knowing it hit HF and rsoultin it is probably mafia induced.
I had a good night of sleep.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 02 2017 10:47 GMT
#1416
On August 02 2017 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Knowing it hit HF and rsoultin it is probably mafia induced.


If so, its logical to think that mafia wanted to silence them from contributing to the game.
We should look into rsouls reads because she was chosen for a reason.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 10:48 GMT
#1417
Сообщение просто говорит, что я забыл английский и должен перевести на русский язык до дальнейшего уведомления. Я еще не получил никакого уведомления, поэтому я все еще русский.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 10:49 GMT
#1418
Я попал в два дня с ограничениями по почте. Я не думаю, что у мафии есть две одинаковые способности.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:49 GMT
#1419
Nha I am fine with btdt.

Derailing the TT wagon towards HF was bad. But I do not see mafia!btdt taking the risk knowing town TT is up for lynch, and the shennanies were never going to happen, that it just blows up in his face.

It's not a good mafia play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2017 10:54 GMT
#1420
On August 02 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Knowing it hit HF and rsoultin it is probably mafia induced.


If so, its logical to think that mafia wanted to silence them from contributing to the game.
We should look into rsouls reads because she was chosen for a reason.

Not sure why rsoultin jumped from TT to df tbh. Looks bad.

Your opinion on this post:
On August 02 2017 06:00 darthfoley wrote:
i'm actually quite annoyed that people are lynching me over a guy that has barely played and has been scummy when he has played.

There is no point making that as mafia fighting for your life right?
I had a good night of sleep.
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