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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
May 27 2017 17:40 GMT
#6
/in for the time being, depending on how fast it fills
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
May 30 2017 18:28 GMT
#23
On May 31 2017 02:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
/in no bamboozle this time


long time
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 01 2017 02:42 GMT
#31
starting to look like a pretty star studded lineup
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 02 2017 18:18 GMT
#43
I can't believe a 132 man game lol. Even a 24-30 player game would be a bit overwhelming to me
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 10 2017 20:57 GMT
#99
fingers crossed
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 13 2017 23:07 GMT
#147
i'm vt
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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June 13 2017 23:08 GMT
#148
coincidentally i'm also in a bad mood for little to no reason. bummer
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 13 2017 23:32 GMT
#156
On June 14 2017 08:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Is it really no reason, or do you just assume others will perceive it as no real reason?



mainly the latter
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 13 2017 23:33 GMT
#157
anyways, yah mafia lets play woohoo
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 13 2017 23:41 GMT
#159
On June 14 2017 08:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
So you rolled scum and want to justify your bad mood?


keep fishing
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 12:57 GMT
#358
On June 14 2017 17:26 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 16:45 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:42 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something.

Still nothing wrong with it. I like the post as well. Why would that post be more mafia aligned?

My problem was more with ruxxar's appreciation rather than disfo's post.
I find it a bit of a mafia trend that they feel the need to do this kind of stuff to blend in. This "I liked this post" just felt fake to me.


I was gonna say this. People grilling Skynx seem to be missing the point of his post. It was calling out ruXXar soft buddying disformation rather than disformation's post itself.

Town points to Skynx.

As of page 11, I think Xatalos/ruXXar are most likely to be scum
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:28 GMT
#378
Is Koshi just the tanner? That would be a pretty sick play to just win on D1
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:29 GMT
#381
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm glad annul posted that video because he also quoted Koshi's math post which is plain bullshit and filler


y u take joke so srs
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:36 GMT
#388
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.


not commenting on B, when B is the most common thing in the thread, is essentially ignoring B.

In order to not achieve levels of irony, I think HF is more likely to be town than rayn atm. Rayn doesn't seem nearly as aggressive or standoff-ish right now. He's basically just defending himself and not really pushing back at HF. Like there's a difference between answering every question you're asked and just saying "fuck you, i'm not answering any more of your shit." I don't sense the passion + Show Spoiler +
or rage
that I usually associate with typical town rayn.

I've liked a few of the inconsistencies HF has pointed out in rayn's play.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:37 GMT
#389
On June 14 2017 21:35 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:30 disformation wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.

well you currently have 0 posts on B?
maybe post something about B?
=D


i think the fact that:

A. i am here during this argument and therefore have read all of it; and
B. i do not have a vote down on anyone yet

is indicative of what i think so far

HF has no reason to FOS anyone this early and assigning alignment to him based on that is just WIFOM


feels like a cop out.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:40 GMT
#395
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:42 GMT
#399
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:54 GMT
#414
On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


We mindmelded at almost the same time about Xata. Simply put, his filter is basically him trying to make friends and say nothing about everything.

On June 14 2017 16:42 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something.


Buddy post that doesn't accurately depict what Skynx's post was actually about ruXxar.

I feel like he also gave Koshi two too many posts about how Koshi caught him with the smiley thing. It just felt as if he gave that off hand comment too much attention (three posts in total).

On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:
Skynx: true, ruxxar's +1 is more blendy than disfo's vague list, especially in reaction to said list.. very meh

disfo: that's pretty.. detail-focused it'd be very funny if he turned out to be SK or something (I think that was a possible role?)


followed by

On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:
TBH I don't think it tells much of anything though


I know it's early but his whole filter has been filler. Hardly any stances taken. The ones he's taken have either been retractable, misconstrued (like the skynx post) or buddy attempts at various "town leader" type people. In my position, I would've said something along the lines of "oh my bad, I misread the point of your post..." but he just rolled with the mistake
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 13:57 GMT
#418
##vote: Xatalos
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 14:01 GMT
#421
On June 14 2017 22:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:54 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, he also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


That's a much better explanation though.

The idea is "darthfoley is coming to the same conclusion as I do before knowing my conclusion". I don't know if he is faking the "I'm catching up post by post" thing but I think he's not. Super gut-feeling.


It's only 10AM in Atlanta where I am right now. I went to bed at like page 8 and woke up to 19-20 pages. Yea, I had to catch up. I guess I could do that as either alignment
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 14:26 GMT
#448
On June 14 2017 23:23 Skynx wrote:
Ruxxar, Xata, sl all null for now, yet to see a nice contribution or anything ti.

I like disfo and HF for town right now, they are contributing pretty good.
Koshi might be 3p but he is doing pretty good as well, I'm not lyncing him at any rate.


How is ruXxar not scummy? Who are you scum reading?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 15:03 GMT
#490
I don't like the annul town reads.

I think his A-B comparison thing is scummy.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 16:04 GMT
#522
On June 15 2017 00:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

I assume you mean face value but why can't scum see the fake cop claim and roll with it to gauge reactions?

[HR]

I don't like how ruxxar seems incapable of taking a joke. Makes me think he's trying too hard. + Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2017 08:27 ruXxar wrote:
What cred?

he didn't understand damdred saying he would ride the cred of busing me and koshi and 'believed' sickluckers claim to the point where he said we should lynch ever and then sicklucker. The way he said it made me instantly think of a scum trying to set up 2 mislynches.

I don't like bdtds reads but that doesn't make him scum or town.

I like HF, disfo, vivax.

I had a point about someone speaking for someone else but I seem to have lost the tab. Phone posting at work sucks so I'm gonna work instead i guess


Which reads don't you like? Why don't you like them?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 16:32 GMT
#529
On June 15 2017 01:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh hey it was darth who asked. What are your reads again df?


Town leans
Btdt
Disfo
HF
Maybe you maybe vivax

Scum:
xata
ruxxar
annul
rayn
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 17:45 GMT
#558
Can someone who town reads Xatalos explain why or quote previous posts?

Come join my wagon. Plenty of open spots!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 17:58 GMT
#567
On June 15 2017 02:31 Vivax wrote:
They both look fairly scummy atm, but Koshi is way more posty while it's really hard to fish something out of Ruxxar. I get the feeling he's in the thread all the time but holds back from posting more on purpose.

That said, I'd switch to Ruxxar with enough followers. But right now the Koshi wagon is big and big wagons are what we need.


Why do you need more people to join a wagon before you commit? There's plenty of time left in today. If you want a ruxxar wagon, make it happen. This looks like useless hedging
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 18:15 GMT
#577
On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".


Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion.

@ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 18:16 GMT
#578
On June 15 2017 03:04 Vivax wrote:
There's still a question open for you df.

Why is someone mafia for admitting to having no reads?

You call annul mafia for cop out from giving reads, so you're requesting someone to give you some forced reads in the case that he doesn't have any?


I also just doubt that someone can have no opinion of HF v rayn v Koshi at this point.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 18:35 GMT
#601
On June 15 2017 03:27 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".


Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion.

@ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it.


Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those..

Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress).


I'm more interested in hearing what you make of the game and its players at this point, now that you've caught up.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 18:57 GMT
#617
On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.


who do you think is scum?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 14 2017 19:23 GMT
#653
On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.


I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.


I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help.


You have 5 votes in the first 24h on D1 and you're Koshi. Get over it dude.

What would you like to talk about?
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#657
On June 15 2017 04:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.


I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.


I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help.


You have 5 votes in the first 24h on D1 and you're Koshi. Get over it dude.

What would you like to talk about?

I have nothing. I actually tried for like 5 hours and it got me nowhere.
So I am just going to do nothing for the next 15 or so.

My filter is big enough.


well meh. cool
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#659
On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.


who do you think is scum?

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.


Look at me as much as you like, but why?
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#661
Also talk about a lackluster scum read
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June 14 2017 23:12 GMT
#780
I'm actually really down with Koshi's three scum reads ATM. Xatalos hasn't changed my mind with his most recent posts. I asked him what he made of the game, and basically regurgitated the case on ruXxar as his only scum read worth mentioning. This was after like 3-5 people had cased ruXxar and cited the same posts Xata used.

This post also sits badly in my stomach. The bolded just feels like an unnatural/aggressive way to claim having an original idea (Which is something mafia often struggle with, and something I think Xatalos has struggled with in this game so far).

On June 15 2017 04:05 Xatalos wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
Who was saying the koshi wagon is too fast? It has 5 fucking votes on it.


I think I said that first? And FF too at some point?

Anyways, he does actually have 6 votes already with no true challenger. I thought it was 7 but apparently I was wrong. This doesn't mean he can't be 3P, at all, but it feels like he's sinking a bit too easily if scum.


I also really like Koshi's description of Grack's play. He hasn't ventured into any unknown territory. He casually sort-of threw out one scum read on me, never defended it.

On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.


who do you think is scum?

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.


Look at me as much as you like, but why?

I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in.


That's super generic, and not even an honest representation of my play so far IMO. I don't think i've blended at all. I just see no drive to scum hunt-- at all.

No idea why people are town reading annul tbh. His last post particularly stuck out to me. I actually concluded the opposite thing from reading ruXxar's post

On June 15 2017 05:46 annul wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:48 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I eagerly await your explanation of sicklucker as your top town. I understand phone posting is shitty so i will wait for a keyboard


This one is easy to explain.

Hard claiming cop with a positive scum read is suicide if you are mafia.

If in whatever circumstance eversince is exposed to be town, then sicklucker would be an autolynch.

I think that's a fast way to throw the game as mafia.

It's not a play I would make as mafia, therefore I think he is town.


im down for a ruxxar lynch as a result of this post btw


That seems like townie/rusty player logic. Plus it still doesn't sit right with me how annul ignored HF v. Rayn v. Koshi so to speak when they're the drivers of conversation and it was the biggest topic of conversation at the time.

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#781
If anyone is around and wants to talk, i'll be around for a while. Any and all questions welcome
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#795
On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:
My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince.
+ Show Spoiler +

ruxxar:
- "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it.
- buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible.

Skynx:
- good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it".

Koshi:
- didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad.
- called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad.
- good post on BTBT being bad
- a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere
- p35. Lock town.

disfo:
- pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check.
- had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around.

rayn:
- picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good.

Vivax:
- entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good.
- liking the annul's post I liked. Good.

BTDT:
- called Koshi town for no reason
- turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi
- townie posts though (p 21)

annul:
- calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good

DF:
- also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI.
- nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.

Damdred:
- weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite.
- though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie.

FF:
- liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it.

Eversince:
- answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post.

Grack:
- weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good.

Xata:
- good post on ruxxar.

rayn:
- LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town.


How can you say Xata has done nothing AI then commend me for making a convincing case on Xata being scum? Seems pretty contradictory
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June 15 2017 03:05 GMT
#796
Anyone else wonder why Rels was like 24 town reads with caveats to every read? How can you call Xata's post on ruXxar "good' when he just copy and pasted what like 4 other people have already pointed out?
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#797
On June 15 2017 08:48 Vivax wrote:
Xatalos isn't mafia though.
Might explain how I read him if this gets too much traction.


You're gonna have to enlighten me because i've seen nothing townie about his playstyle and pushes so far.
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June 15 2017 03:07 GMT
#798
Like how can Rels view my case on Xatalos as convincing and pretty good while also town reading Xatalos for a thread sentiment case on ruXxar?

Don't like Rels so far
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June 15 2017 12:05 GMT
#918
On June 15 2017 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
This is what you're effectively doing vivax:

The world of the orange sky.

1. I say the sky is blue and make a case why.
2. Fecalfeast ask what the case on the sky colour is that everyone is sheeping.
3. Eversince states my case that the sky is blue.
4. You enter thread and say, wait, but the sky is orange!
5. Eversince says she can't see why the sky is blue and here are the reasons.
6. You say she copied my opinion that the sky is blue when in fact she thinks it's quite green.

That easier?


but what color is the banana?
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June 15 2017 12:12 GMT
#919
Hey people. I made multiple posts about Rels being a weirdo McScumScum and all of you ignored it! Don't ignore me!

What do you "town leaders" make of Rels?
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June 15 2017 13:09 GMT
#938
On June 15 2017 21:21 Vivax wrote:
Do you have any opinion on Eversince, darth?


Your argument with HF has gone over my head and it's been clogging up the thread so my only read comes from a quick read of her(?) filter.

All the filter is is early defending of rayn against a wagon on him, then moderating HF v. Koshi. I have no idea what Eversince believes of the other 19 players in the game. She feels super disconnected from the thread.

She's on the scummier side, but also perfect example of potential lynch bait. I'm still more comfortable with other people D1 lynch because her filter doesn't feel like she's pushing any sort of agenda tbh
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June 15 2017 13:10 GMT
#939
Also to build off what Skynx/disfo said, why is everyone letting Palmar actively not play the game without putting any pressure on him?
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June 15 2017 13:11 GMT
#940
On June 15 2017 21:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 09:58 Tumblewood wrote:
##vote raynpelikoneet


This vote is so bad that I'm going to TR the tumble for NEI.

Updated town list:

annul, Koshi ( - points for hipster reads on ES and Ruxx), Damdred, FF, Grack (hedging on this), Vayne (for no other reason that he called eversinces post scummy and it seemed genuine), skynx, btdt ( - points for still being on kosh)
Newcomers:
TW, rayn , Rels.

Koshi I'm not too satisfied with you explaining everything away on ruxx and ES from a town point of view.
And if you want Xatalos we need to start getting finding stuff. I already commented on him just sucking up to HF when he tried to sell him that I was posting scummy things (would spew HF town if Xata is mafia actually).
Won't be at home for most of this afternoon and evening.


Why are you TRing btdt but not me when we basically have the same reads?
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#941
On June 15 2017 22:05 Skynx wrote:
I prolly forgot to mention it earlier but disfo is top town until end of this game, you should slow down otherwise you're dead tonight bro.


explain pls?
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#946
On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote:
This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.

Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes.
I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there.
Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today.
I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.

Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince

btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post.
It'd be nice if VA actually played.
TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either.
Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read.
I don't like annul from first impressions.

Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.


This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game.

I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads
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June 15 2017 15:05 GMT
#963
On June 15 2017 22:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 22:45 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote:
This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.

Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes.
I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there.
Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today.
I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.

Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince

btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post.
It'd be nice if VA actually played.
TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either.
Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read.
I don't like annul from first impressions.

Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.


This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game.

I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads

I mean there is gona be disagreements but for now if that 8-10 people work together mafia is gona have a tough time no matter what.
So for the sake of argument, Vivax and you having same reads, you're prolly thinking in same pattern and both town

I'm not a fan of killing afk/one posters D1, which i kinda supported when i first started playing. Mainly because if left alive, they feel the pressure and step up D2, either producing well content and joining town or slipping and getting lynched. Meanwhile D1 we actually lynch someone who has gave us some sort of information.

All things considered, there is gotta be one mafia in annul/grack/fefe/ruxxar/xata. I'm reading Xata now.


No, Vivax and I have differing reads on quite a few people it seems. My point was that BTDT and I share a lot of similar reads, yet he town reads BTDT and scum reads me, with no explanation. I am concerned with the inconsistency
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June 15 2017 15:31 GMT
#971
On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks


this town list is the antithesis of how I view the game right now for at least half of these players.

can someone explain to me why they're town reading TW? I remember him being in a few town lists
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June 15 2017 18:28 GMT
#1069
i'm most okay with xatalos/annul right now. I guess i'd be fine with Eversince too, but as someone else said I feel like she's a vigi shot type target moreso than a lynch. Out of the three, I think she's the least likely to lead the town off track.

i think ruXxar has started to look better. Not comfortable lynching Koshi day 1 either, he's stroking my ego so much and making me feel smart.
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June 15 2017 18:29 GMT
#1073
would also be down for Rels and maybe TW. Although TWs town looks so bad that it might just be town!TW
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June 15 2017 18:36 GMT
#1080
On June 16 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 03:28 darthfoley wrote:
i'm most okay with xatalos/annul right now. I guess i'd be fine with Eversince too, but as someone else said I feel like she's a vigi shot type target moreso than a lynch. Out of the three, I think she's the least likely to lead the town off track.

i think ruXxar has started to look better. Not comfortable lynching Koshi day 1 either, he's stroking my ego so much and making me feel smart.

Well you are actually the best player D1. No doubt.


keep talking dirty to me
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June 15 2017 19:03 GMT
#1136
T-4 hours to lynch and we still have 8 non votes. Lots of shenanigans swing potential here
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June 15 2017 19:05 GMT
#1140
On June 16 2017 04:04 Koshi wrote:
ruXxar is not mafia and a mafia is pushing that idea.


A mafia is pushing that ruXxar is NOT mafia?
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June 15 2017 19:24 GMT
#1162
On June 16 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:
Feels like the game is being deflected off ES and Ruxxar onto annul/Xata.
Koshi with the hipster reads.

This is the game I'm feeling I'm currently in.


So who's doing the deflecting?
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#1173
On June 16 2017 04:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:24 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:
Feels like the game is being deflected off ES and Ruxxar onto annul/Xata.
Koshi with the hipster reads.

This is the game I'm feeling I'm currently in.


So who's doing the deflecting?


Why are you not replying to my posts before posting new questions?
You are leaving loose ends in this game.


Because your claim is generally vague and fearmongering.

"Feels like the game is being fearmongered away from annul/Xata."

You'd probably wonder who/what made me say that. How am I leaving "loose ends" in the game when it's D1 and i've been consistently active and looking for mafia/pushing new leads?
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June 15 2017 19:33 GMT
#1188
On June 16 2017 04:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:24 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:24 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:
Feels like the game is being deflected off ES and Ruxxar onto annul/Xata.
Koshi with the hipster reads.

This is the game I'm feeling I'm currently in.


So who's doing the deflecting?


Why are you not replying to my posts before posting new questions?
You are leaving loose ends in this game.


Because your claim is generally vague and fearmongering.

"Feels like the game is being fearmongered away from annul/Xata."

You'd probably wonder who/what made me say that. How am I leaving "loose ends" in the game when it's D1 and i've been consistently active and looking for mafia/pushing new leads?


You should read my posts some time


Maybe someday you'll be so lucky
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June 15 2017 19:36 GMT
#1193
On June 16 2017 04:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I had been sitting at the bar for a while now, drinking in the culture and folks of this establishment. Now on my sixth beer, things were starting to get a little hazy. As it approached night time the yelling and arguing had only gotten worse. I was starting to get a migraine from all the one liners.

Then, someone was hailed over in the shadow of the bar. Stepping up onto the porch, a newcomer had showed up late to happy hour. Finding his friends in the back, he first strolled up to the counter and demanded weapons from the bartender, an odd request. The three ranch hands drinking next to me rushed out of the bar when they got a good look at him. The bartender went around the back and rummaged around as others were exiting from the back door of the bar. But it was a ruse.. the bartender and man looked up at each other laughing as he came back to the counter to pour him a drink.

This place was starting to make some of the trendy themed bars back at home look palatable. I needed a lead.

I glanced at my watch, a little under four hours until the real show started. I just needed to lay low until then and try to save an innocent life. The bad guys never did like to play in the light...so it looked like it was time to bring the light to them.

"Any of you boys got a light?"


This is actually fucking cool lol
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 19:41 GMT
#1199
On June 16 2017 04:37 Koshi wrote:
any1 knows who the new guy is and who left the bar? Xatalos kinda left? HF stopped being annoying. Who else?


Idk but maybe we should just let VA narrate this game in cowboy-noire style
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 19:45 GMT
#1204
On June 16 2017 04:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
after doing a little research on the side ill be voting for skynx today


dis guy got some big bawls. why?
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 19:50 GMT
#1211
[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 04:47 Skynx wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 04:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 04:36 Skynx wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 04:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I said yolo to the fact that my early scumread is voting the same person as me I've articulated why i dislike annul skynx.

[/QUOTE]

I don't know what you're trying to say here. Your Ruxxar sr was based on him having sl as top town. Now you townread both of them and voting on annul together while your only two cents on annul is:

[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.
...

/QUOTE]

While you say

[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
I know xata is a name being thrown around as scummy but i admit i haven't even checked his filter 😎[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Why do you say my ruxxar scumread was based on him townreading sicklucker when that is not the case?

I also said that I actually like ruxxars latest posts but would prefer to not be wrong.

I believe you and grack now have misrepresented my read on ruxxar what gives?

Also what does my post about xata have to do with ruxx or annul?[/QUOTE]
I misunderstood you on ruxxar now i read a little further back.

As he is the other major wagon, it would be nice for you guys to have an opinion on Xata. How i feel is you say you said yolo just building up on what you previously said about annul but i found that to be not much. Xata's filter is very similar so i'm just curious you vote one without considering the other.[/QUOTE]

can you two learn to quote correctly pls? this is cancerous
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 19:50 GMT
#1212
i played myself lmao
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 19:52 GMT
#1215
HF can I get like 2-3 names of people you'd be comfortable lynching atm? I feel like I should know who you want to lynch right now but I don't.
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 19:57 GMT
#1224
On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


wtf??? Whichideas are unconventional? The time he called ruXxar mafia as his only scum read when like 5 people had pushed it?

I really need specific examples about what ideas he's pushed have been "unconventional." Hell, I can't even remember what ideas he's pushed at all.
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:13 GMT
#1247
@rayn come back bb. I know we've been hard on each other, but come speak your truth
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:16 GMT
#1250
On June 16 2017 05:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm getting cold feet.


Here, take these socks.


best comeback 2k17
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:22 GMT
#1264
On June 16 2017 05:19 disformation wrote:
the game had a lot of yelling about rayn being scum earlier. so i dont think it is outrageously unconventional


exactly. early on lots of people were on the fence about rayn after the whole HF v. Koshi v. rayn shitfest that sort of occured. I really don't think Xata has had an "out there" read or contradictory read against thread sentiment.Feel like he's also tried buddying multiple people in the game.
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:24 GMT
#1269
On June 16 2017 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
You guys should be lynching sicklucker though. When was the last time he:

A) Cared about a day 1 lynch.
B) Pushed his read day 1 and wants to lead a wagon.

+he doesn't even know what Xatalos has actually posted and instead said he posted unconventional reads so is town, which isn't true in the slightest.


Feel free to join this wagon. Only the pros need apply.

##vote sicklucker


Also not opposed to this wagon getting some traction
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:33 GMT
#1286
Tfw 2.5 hours before deadline and lead wagon has 4 votes with 7 non votes
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:35 GMT
#1292
On June 16 2017 05:32 Vivax wrote:
I'm really just fed up with everyone doing their own thing then a bunch of derpies coming in and hurr, yolo vote this yolo vote that and not care about trying to build up a bit of unity in the town.

Or DF who thinks hes entitled to ask me questions but apparently doesn't want to read my filter and engage.

So I'm just going to sheep HF, maybe rayn, maybe Palmar depending on who cares the most or something like that.
As long as it looks like there's a train of ppl and not just a bunch of solitary ones in little bubbles.


I literally asked you who was misleading the town and then you had a hissy fit. It was one question and you blew up. All you had to do was post the wretched names or quote something with a snarky response. But you didn't

Get over it
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:36 GMT
#1293
On June 16 2017 05:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:33 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:32 Vivax wrote:
I'm really just fed up with everyone doing their own thing then a bunch of derpies coming in and hurr, yolo vote this yolo vote that and not care about trying to build up a bit of unity in the town.

Or DF who thinks hes entitled to ask me questions but apparently doesn't want to read my filter and engage.

So I'm just going to sheep HF, maybe rayn, maybe Palmar depending on who cares the most or something like that.
As long as it looks like there's a train of ppl and not just a bunch of solitary ones in little bubbles.

lol you are mad people don't listen to you while you don't listen to those people. funny


I listen to DF I pick apart his posts and comment on individual parts that interest me.
I just don't have the same reads as him.


And yes I appreciate your interactions. I will have time later tonight to go through your filter, but I'm at teacher training for most of every day so I can't filter as effectively as I'd like until like 1AM Austrian time
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:39 GMT
#1296
Vivax is a smarty though because i'm townreading him more for his frustration with people not taking his filter/points seriously
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:41 GMT
#1297
Idk what you want me to say. I have made my stance on Eversince crystal clear more than once at this point. Sorry I don't agree with your plan of action with Eversince
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:42 GMT
#1300
What inquiries did I "completely shut down" from? That is hyperbole
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June 15 2017 20:45 GMT
#1304
On June 16 2017 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:39 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:35 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:34 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:33 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:32 Vivax wrote:
I'm really just fed up with everyone doing their own thing then a bunch of derpies coming in and hurr, yolo vote this yolo vote that and not care about trying to build up a bit of unity in the town.

Or DF who thinks hes entitled to ask me questions but apparently doesn't want to read my filter and engage.

So I'm just going to sheep HF, maybe rayn, maybe Palmar depending on who cares the most or something like that.
As long as it looks like there's a train of ppl and not just a bunch of solitary ones in little bubbles.

lol you are mad people don't listen to you while you don't listen to those people. funny


I listen to DF I pick apart his posts and comment on individual parts that interest me.
I just don't have the same reads as him.

I have commented a lot on your scumreads rexx and Ever.
People think different things. From the active people everybody read what you said.


I think townreading Eversince is a very long shot from you when all I can remember is that you said shes trying to help or something. All mafias want to look like they're trying to help and they don't really want to get into shitfights.

DF also said what he found bad/odd about her cause I asked him and then concluded nothing with it and completely shut down from my inquiries since nobody helps me out with forcing a response out of him.

On June 15 2017 22:09 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 21:21 Vivax wrote:
Do you have any opinion on Eversince, darth?


Your argument with HF has gone over my head and it's been clogging up the thread so my only read comes from a quick read of her(?) filter.

All the filter is is early defending of rayn against a wagon on him, then moderating HF v. Koshi. I have no idea what Eversince believes of the other 19 players in the game. She feels super disconnected from the thread.

She's on the scummier side, but also perfect example of potential lynch bait. I'm still more comfortable with other people D1 lynch because her filter doesn't feel like she's pushing any sort of agenda tbh


I legitimately think this is a bad post and DF doesn't have a real read on ES and kind of leaves it wishy washy.


I don't mind the post at all. Basically says she's a lurker that's posted, which is pretty scummy but not unknown for town to do.

But his conclusion is wrong. Mafia agenda is just to live so not pushing anything and living is already fulfilling it.


Point taken. Perhaps this will clear up my POV. While Eversince has a decent chance of being mafia, she's equally likely to just be a shitty town. On the other hand, I think Xata/annul and now SL have been more scummy and have more interactions with other people that will illuminate this game.
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:46 GMT
#1308
On June 16 2017 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:39 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:35 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:34 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:33 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:32 Vivax wrote:
I'm really just fed up with everyone doing their own thing then a bunch of derpies coming in and hurr, yolo vote this yolo vote that and not care about trying to build up a bit of unity in the town.

Or DF who thinks hes entitled to ask me questions but apparently doesn't want to read my filter and engage.

So I'm just going to sheep HF, maybe rayn, maybe Palmar depending on who cares the most or something like that.
As long as it looks like there's a train of ppl and not just a bunch of solitary ones in little bubbles.

lol you are mad people don't listen to you while you don't listen to those people. funny


I listen to DF I pick apart his posts and comment on individual parts that interest me.
I just don't have the same reads as him.

I have commented a lot on your scumreads rexx and Ever.
People think different things. From the active people everybody read what you said.


I think townreading Eversince is a very long shot from you when all I can remember is that you said shes trying to help or something. All mafias want to look like they're trying to help and they don't really want to get into shitfights.

DF also said what he found bad/odd about her cause I asked him and then concluded nothing with it and completely shut down from my inquiries since nobody helps me out with forcing a response out of him.

On June 15 2017 22:09 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 21:21 Vivax wrote:
Do you have any opinion on Eversince, darth?


Your argument with HF has gone over my head and it's been clogging up the thread so my only read comes from a quick read of her(?) filter.

All the filter is is early defending of rayn against a wagon on him, then moderating HF v. Koshi. I have no idea what Eversince believes of the other 19 players in the game. She feels super disconnected from the thread.

She's on the scummier side, but also perfect example of potential lynch bait. I'm still more comfortable with other people D1 lynch because her filter doesn't feel like she's pushing any sort of agenda tbh


I legitimately think this is a bad post and DF doesn't have a real read on ES and kind of leaves it wishy washy.


I don't mind the post at all. Basically says she's a lurker that's posted, which is pretty scummy but not unknown for town to do.

But his conclusion is wrong. Mafia agenda is just to live so not pushing anything and living is already fulfilling it.


See? This is what I wanted to hear from DF, his version of mafia agenda at least cause that's one of the questions I have pending and he refused to answer.


My idea of mafia agenda is
1) buddying towns
2) copying reads
3) hedging
4) opportunistic posting (only coming in to defend or parrot points)
5) an unnatural need to prove how their game has been unique

Xata/annul/SL have displayed multiple points on this list
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:49 GMT
#1311
I also think the 7 non votes allows mafia to be a lot more aggressive in trying to find a mislynch/save a partner close to deadline + Show Spoiler +
because there's a lot of potential "blame" to be thrown around with so many AFK votes
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 20:55 GMT
#1319
On June 16 2017 05:54 Holyflare wrote:
This game was a travesty that people weren't forced to confirm before the game started btw. I guarantee that's 60% of the afkers at least.


agreed. mods go pm them!
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 21:36 GMT
#1342
On June 16 2017 06:30 Koshi wrote:
I really hope the town within you guys keep a close eye on the thread and do that last minue Xatalos vote. Except for the 3 people realllllyyyy believing he is mafia he got a lot of pushback. rayn as well btw.

and looking at the Xatalos filter he is SUPER FUCKING EASY to vote on if he is town. What a fucking bad filter. So why isn't mafia doing that?


Second paragraph is actually kind of a sick point. There's plenty of reason to "fabricate" a vote on him if he were Town. Especially with some of the people pushing him considered "obv/strong town" yet he's been stuck at 4 votes forever
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 21:54 GMT
#1367
On June 16 2017 06:33 Rels wrote:
I swear one day I will have a good D1. Dunno why I can never bring myself to care D1


Are you gonna vote or just be sad?
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 22:01 GMT
#1377
Still willing to switch to annul if shenanies off Xata happens
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 22:38 GMT
#1507
I can't read all this shit wtf is happening
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 22:40 GMT
#1519
On June 16 2017 07:29 Koshi wrote:
darthfoley
What do you make of Xata not fighting and annul fighting?


I'm starting to feel like annul doth protest too much. Xata's lack of defense is kinda concerning from either alignment tbh. Idk
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 22:40 GMT
#1520
I'm on my phone at the dining hall so idk what to think
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 22:48 GMT
#1553
On June 16 2017 07:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
I'm on my phone at the dining hall so idk what to think

same. I am not voting sicklucker. But annul or xata? I don't know.


I think I'm staying zone xata. Force scum to make the move (or lack thereof). The end of the day has given lots of info. Let's see who comes in with the hammer, and onto who.

Like Xata not defending himself if his scum mates are doing the leg work makes sense
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 23:08 GMT
#1631
Well
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 23:33 GMT
#1685
On June 16 2017 08:23 Koshi wrote:
3)Palmar
5)disformation
7)Tumblewood
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
20)sicklucker
22)Eversince

So this is my list still. I am not yet putting HF in it. Weird I know. If Xatalos is town the 5 mafia are still in this list. I am somewhat tempted to take sl out :d


You know how many mafia there are?
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darthfoley
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June 15 2017 23:34 GMT
#1688
On June 16 2017 08:27 sicklucker wrote:
im sure theres at least 1 or 2 people that are autolynches before you consider me. no idea whats going on in vivax's brain


Who are you thinking? ES and Xata?
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 01:23 GMT
#1701
On June 16 2017 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Most people here haven't played with Annul. He doesn't play much these days. I've played a game or two with him, and I know some guys like HolyFlare, Palmar, Rels, marv, Grack, Vivax, etc have been around enough they likely played with him as well. Anyone else claiming to have played with him or to know his meta is likely talking out of their ass.


I'm interested to see what the newest member of the cool kids star club thinks of the game when you manage to catch up with 86 pages or whatever!
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 02:39 GMT
#1704
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Should've known annul was town. Just look at the people who ended up voting for him
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 02:47 GMT
#1705
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 02:50 GMT
#1706
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.

Not like I Rels out from a mile away
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 02:51 GMT
#1707
Night
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June 16 2017 10:10 GMT
#1794
On June 16 2017 16:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow

You are really an incredible player. :D
Now I don't think both Vivax and HF are mafia like Ruxx is claiming. But one might be. But maybe not.


Waiting for the post game for me to be 100% wrong and have this be ironic
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 10:11 GMT
#1795
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.


Thanks for your input Nostradamus.
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 10:13 GMT
#1797
On June 16 2017 18:01 Vivax wrote:
Basically anyone who argues Xata is scum is saying all mafia was on annul.
Touche.


How is anyone arguing that? There were a variety of off wagon votes and 4 non votes. Why would that mean all four other mafia voted for Xata? Town could've just been on the wrong side of a hammer.

This is why it's important for KP to be aimed at Xata tonight
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darthfoley
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June 16 2017 10:18 GMT
#1799
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol
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June 16 2017 10:29 GMT
#1806
On June 16 2017 19:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


And why am I mafia when I tried to save my town read at the end of the day, repeatedly told people annul was town and tried to get people off the wagons?

And why is sicklucker not mafia again?


I think sl could well be mafia. I explained earlier why I didn't like your EoD
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#1808
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Did you even read EoD or what I posted earlier?

1. ES comes in thread like 20 min before flip
2. Asks to be caught up
3. Thanks HF for catching her up (seems like a friendly TR)
4. HF is screaming from the top of his lungs not to lynch xata
5. ES ignores the only person who caught her up and hammers annul with the important 7th vote
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#1811
Also it's misleading to say I didn't think ES was scummy earlier. I literally said that
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June 16 2017 10:34 GMT
#1814
Vivax is a blower
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#1825
On June 16 2017 19:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.


Why are you trying to convince me that ES is mafia when I was trying to push her from the start?


Why did you vote off wagon when your vote really mattered?
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June 16 2017 10:49 GMT
#1829
On June 16 2017 19:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:32 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Did you even read EoD or what I posted earlier?

1. ES comes in thread like 20 min before flip
2. Asks to be caught up
3. Thanks HF for catching her up (seems like a friendly TR)
4. HF is screaming from the top of his lungs not to lynch xata
5. ES ignores the only person who caught her up and hammers annul with the important 7th vote


Didn't happen even once.


Oh shit I meant to say not to lynch annul. You are correct
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June 16 2017 10:53 GMT
#1834
On June 16 2017 19:51 Vivax wrote:
Please DF I beg you just call me mafia for voting off wagon, do it.

At least that will make it seem like a relevant question at all.


I think I made it clear with my previous post that I found your EoD scummy which is by definition you

Also @HF I mistyped. I need to look at FF's vote. If what you say is true, your eod isn't a problem
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June 16 2017 10:57 GMT
#1841
On June 16 2017 19:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:53 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:51 Vivax wrote:
Please DF I beg you just call me mafia for voting off wagon, do it.

At least that will make it seem like a relevant question at all.


I think I made it clear with my previous post that I found your EoD scummy which is by definition you

Also @HF I mistyped. I need to look at FF's vote. If what you say is true, your eod isn't a problem


So if that's cause of the previous arguments, why is it relevant at all for someones alignment if they vote off wagon?
Why does that make me mafia over other people who voted off wagon?


Because ES who you've been hollering about was in one wagon and you chose not to vote on the other wagon. It's not always relevant to vote off wagon, but yesterday I think it was
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#1850
On June 16 2017 20:05 Vivax wrote:
Darthfoley is calling me mafia for not switching to Xatalos after this happened:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:57 Eversince wrote:
## vote: Annul


Which btw already put annul at majority first so even if I switched I wouldn't have gotten him lynched.


The feeling is mutual. So why didn't you pick a wagon?
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June 16 2017 11:17 GMT
#1855
On June 16 2017 20:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 20:05 Vivax wrote:
Darthfoley is calling me mafia for not switching to Xatalos after this happened:

On June 16 2017 07:57 Eversince wrote:
## vote: Annul


Which btw already put annul at majority first so even if I switched I wouldn't have gotten him lynched.


The feeling is mutual. So why didn't you pick a wagon?


You are mafia.

Darthfoley:

"Vivax is mafia for not voting Xatalos by association after Eversince voted annul 3 minutes -Eod and made him already the only lynchable guy"


So why didn't you pick a wagon? Idk why you're getting so shook based off of one simple question
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June 16 2017 11:31 GMT
#1862
My royal decree is that Vivax is probably Town and I am okay with this
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June 16 2017 11:33 GMT
#1864
Also @ vivax btdt could well be mafia because he's become more and more blendy as the game has progressed. But he's not in my top 2 or 3 atm
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June 16 2017 11:34 GMT
#1865
Xata/sl/ES multiple mafia
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June 16 2017 11:41 GMT
#1872
On June 16 2017 20:36 Vivax wrote:
If I just force myself to read DF town I can see a btdt/Xata/SL/ES/Ruxxar team.

But that would be pretty sad cause it means that yet again, the majority of town doesn't even try harder than mafia.


It's easy to do! We can gain power and control and rule this town
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June 16 2017 14:19 GMT
#1907
I was hoping for a bit more activity
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#1915
On June 16 2017 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels is mafia.


Thanks for making me feel not crazy
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June 16 2017 15:22 GMT
#1923
Rayn u sexy guy
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June 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#1933
If Damdred is actually Town, I would really appreciate him actually playing the game
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June 16 2017 15:58 GMT
#1936
Hope we don't have to waste another lynch on Xata
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#1944
On June 17 2017 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 00:57 darthfoley wrote:
If Damdred is actually Town, I would really appreciate him actually playing the game

yes me too.

DF could you tell me if there is anything i should read about Xatalos / annul after page 60?
I got bored on pages 50-60 because people are jsut repeating the same thing (not that it is a bad thing, for example koshi and HF are pushing cases - it's just boring to read same thing over and over again).


On my phone now so can't really filter but

Xata came in near EoD and didn't really defend himself while being in the lead. It was weird. Felt almost like he knew he wasn't gonna be lynched. He got lots of indirect defense from various people so he managed to escape the lynch without having to defend himself and look scummy/opportunistic. There seemed to be quite a bit of resistance is his lynching. Since then, he's been quite AFK.

Annul had very real frustration near EoD that was townie. I can't remember if he made many more "new points."
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#1946
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


Post feels weird
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#1949
On June 16 2017 07:14 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:13 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live


That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours.

Didn't you just say you were OK voting SL to save you and annul


I said I can vote SL if I die otherwise. But I don't really see why SL is getting votes right now.


Also felt like Xata skirted around SL quite a bit EoD
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#1953
On June 17 2017 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 01:03 darthfoley wrote:
Xata came in near EoD and didn't really defend himself while being in the lead. It was weird.

This is usually not a mafia trait- i mean it's more likely to come from town than mafia. But okay.
Show nested quote +
Felt almost like he knew he wasn't gonna be lynched. He got lots of indirect defense from various people so he managed to escape the lynch without having to defend himself and look scummy/opportunistic.

What i meant before.... It is not scummy to defend yourself. But okay, who were these people, jsut by name so i can read them after i have read Xatalos.
Show nested quote +
There seemed to be quite a bit of resistance is his lynching. Since then, he's been quite AFK.

Same as above.

Show nested quote +
Annul had very real frustration near EoD that was townie. I can't remember if he made many more "new points."

I know i read him scum or at least "invisible" as in just hanging around. Idk if that changed later on on D1. Holyflare? What was the thing that made you read him town at EoD? I can read too but i'd rather not since i wanna focus on current things instead.

Next i am gonna read Xatalos-


People who were pushing other people near EoD either through votes or posts from my recollection: HF, Vivax, ES, Grack, SL. Don't have the time to go back. I would read about 5-10 pages before flip
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#1954
On June 17 2017 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shit i read something wrong. Like df, if people dont defend themselves it is either because they are not mafia, or they don't care if they are lynched (as mafia).

I dont think xatalos fits the second category. that doesnt mean he is not mafia, but i am not buying that case, there HAS TO BE a case that originally spawned the votes on him. What is it? Koshi? Or do i go search?


My cases against him. Plus koshi
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June 16 2017 16:25 GMT
#1960
He said he was gonna be gone a lot this weekend or something
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#1980
On June 17 2017 01:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Man ruxxar really tried to buddybuddy with me when i started to wane on my scumread on him. Yuck


Yea ruxxar has done the same to me, calling me most town, yadayada
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#2069
Three hours to live
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#2075
On June 17 2017 05:08 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
Three hours to live


You will die when we lynch you tomorrow.
I won't be fooled by your towny appearance anymore, and I'm personally going to ensure that you are lynched.

I'll admit you had me convinced there for a while.
Kudos on your good town play as mafia, but this is it.

I'll make sure that you are lynched if it's the last thing I do.



Yawn
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#2078
On June 17 2017 05:25 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 05:14 darthfoley wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:08 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
Three hours to live


You will die when we lynch you tomorrow.
I won't be fooled by your towny appearance anymore, and I'm personally going to ensure that you are lynched.

I'll admit you had me convinced there for a while.
Kudos on your good town play as mafia, but this is it.

I'll make sure that you are lynched if it's the last thing I do.



Yawn


I love how you go from this:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow


Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol



to this:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 20:31 darthfoley wrote:
My royal decree is that Vivax is probably Town and I am okay with this


You tried really hard to distance yourself, and then you just gave it up easy like that.
It's some advanced mafia play for sure, but you are definitely scum together with vivax and HF.
Well played.


This is entertaining
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#2082
On June 17 2017 05:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 05:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:25 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:14 darthfoley wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:08 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
Three hours to live


You will die when we lynch you tomorrow.
I won't be fooled by your towny appearance anymore, and I'm personally going to ensure that you are lynched.

I'll admit you had me convinced there for a while.
Kudos on your good town play as mafia, but this is it.

I'll make sure that you are lynched if it's the last thing I do.



Yawn


I love how you go from this:

On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow


On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol



to this:

On June 16 2017 20:31 darthfoley wrote:
My royal decree is that Vivax is probably Town and I am okay with this


You tried really hard to distance yourself, and then you just gave it up easy like that.
It's some advanced mafia play for sure, but you are definitely scum together with vivax and HF.
Well played.


This is entertaining

He likes you.


What a trickster
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June 16 2017 21:02 GMT
#2084
In case I die,

Mafia are probably within
(No order)
Xata
SL
eversince
Rels
Grack
TW
AFKs
Maybe one in Skynx/btdt/disformation. Idk
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June 16 2017 21:03 GMT
#2085
lol I just named like 2/3 the game. Oh well
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June 16 2017 21:10 GMT
#2087
Wouldn't it be great if Xata and SL were both scum? If they're both Town I may cry
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#2090
On June 17 2017 06:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 05:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:25 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:14 darthfoley wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:08 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
Three hours to live


You will die when we lynch you tomorrow.
I won't be fooled by your towny appearance anymore, and I'm personally going to ensure that you are lynched.

I'll admit you had me convinced there for a while.
Kudos on your good town play as mafia, but this is it.

I'll make sure that you are lynched if it's the last thing I do.



Yawn


I love how you go from this:

On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow


On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol



to this:

On June 16 2017 20:31 darthfoley wrote:
My royal decree is that Vivax is probably Town and I am okay with this


You tried really hard to distance yourself, and then you just gave it up easy like that.
It's some advanced mafia play for sure, but you are definitely scum together with vivax and HF.
Well played.


This is entertaining


Keep trying to casually brush it off instead of explaining.
You can't since you have no good excuse.

Darth "teflon" foley.


+ Show Spoiler +
i appreciate what you're doing but it's a bit obvious

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#2100
On June 17 2017 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
No problems, I'll be keeping my eye on that shifty darthfoley


I think you mean the DarthTeflonDonFoley
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June 16 2017 23:08 GMT
#2120
So Xatalos is still alive.

##vote:Xatalos
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June 16 2017 23:16 GMT
#2142
Meh shooting town!HF and town!Koshi is pretty optimal but takes some balls considering you'd imagine a doctor might save one of them.

Anyways yea not having a vigi shot is frankly surprising. We must have a lot of investigative roles. Don't claim early D2 and kill activity tho
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June 16 2017 23:33 GMT
#2162
The other thing is that these kills also kill thread activity. Their filters were huge and they progressed the game. Now we have a bunch of scummy meh inactives left

Vivax, we must unite.
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#2170
On June 17 2017 09:10 ruXxar wrote:
From reading the filters I posted above I'm gleaning this current list:

Scum:
Xatalos.
Rels: his reads are all over the place with no straightforward conclusions.
Grackaroni: Theres something about this guy that doesn't feel right.
Tumblewood: His reads list is really suspicious.

Town:
Darth foley.
Rayn.
FF
Vivax

Conflicted:
SL
Eversince

Conclusion:

Lynch Xata or Rels today.


So now I'm back into the town pile
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 00:44 GMT
#2171
TW is also probably scum
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#2173
On June 17 2017 09:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 09:36 darthfoley wrote:
On June 17 2017 09:10 ruXxar wrote:
From reading the filters I posted above I'm gleaning this current list:

Scum:
Xatalos.
Rels: his reads are all over the place with no straightforward conclusions.
Grackaroni: Theres something about this guy that doesn't feel right.
Tumblewood: His reads list is really suspicious.

Town:
Darth foley.
Rayn.
FF
Vivax

Conflicted:
SL
Eversince

Conclusion:

Lynch Xata or Rels today.


So now I'm back into the town pile


You always were baby <3


I know. But I appreciated your effort and idea :p
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 03:37 GMT
#2178
Regardless of Xata's alignment, I find it hard to believe that his wagon was 100% pure. It doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective unless it's literally a trash team with no coordination. Which, given the amount of inactivity, is possible... but unlikely
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 04:16 GMT
#2180
On June 17 2017 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 12:37 darthfoley wrote:
Regardless of Xata's alignment, I find it hard to believe that his wagon was 100% pure. It doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective unless it's literally a trash team with no coordination. Which, given the amount of inactivity, is possible... but unlikely

Youre most likely right here.
Are you around in 8 or so hrs? Lets figure this shit out when i am off work.


There's a chance. PrObably more like 9-10 hours. We shall see
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 04:19 GMT
#2181
Almost certainly one scum between disformation and skynx. The other four votes on Xata (including me) are town... and three of them are dead. Think we should see whether either one of Skynx/dis were giving themselves wiggle room to hammer annul if things got hairy with Xata. This point only really matters if Xata is mafia though.

We can talk in a few hours
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 12:50 GMT
#2307
On June 17 2017 19:28 Xatalos wrote:
Eh. I haven't been able to really keep up with the game so well up to this point, so I'll just say it: I'm the Cop and I decided to check disfo last night. He returned Mafia.

I was so close to claiming Cop several times last EOD, but managed to barely hold it in, because I wanted to use my power at least once. Luckily it paid off big time.


Well this is pretty major league bullshit but let's pretend like it could be legit I guess
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June 17 2017 12:57 GMT
#2311
On June 17 2017 20:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 20:02 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:55 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead.

So, are you going to solve the game today?

Because you put us in a very inconvenient position. Your claim is very suspicious.


Worst comes to worst, disfo is just a free lynch D3. I don't terribly mind that outcome since I'm dying soon no matter what.

Considering that, I think I'll have some time today to read the game so I can try to leave a legacy.


I'm thinking that if you had a red check, you wouldn't give up this easily and be so calm about it.
You should be kicking and screaming all the way to the gallows.

Like, a cop is a HUGE asset to town. You were so close to getting lynched yesterday, yet you made no effort to even change the tide of the votes, know that you could play a critical role in winning this for us.

My feeling is that if you were a cop, you would have put in way more effort yesterday to get out of a near lynch situation.


Basically my thoughts as well. No way if I were cop and I was the LEADING WAGON until 5 minutes before flip would I

1. Basically not defend myself
2. Not hint or claim or be active during the night when Koshi/Hf/myself were calling for vigi to shoot you.

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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 13:09 GMT
#2317
On June 17 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 21:58 disformation wrote:
since ppl brought up that it would be fairly odd if not at least 1 guy tried to get some cred by bussing which is a decent thought


It's exceptionally unlikely.

If you are mafia and Ruxxar town though it would make sense that mafia skynx pinged Ruxxar at the start of D1 for +1ing your post.

I'm not on Xatalos autolynch btw. You will have to convince me you are town.
I'll be gone grilling for most of the day so you won't have to endure me for much longer.


Yea on the one hand it feels bad to autolynch and un-cc cop. But on the other hand, if I were cop, would I really want to out myself and probably get RB/Mafia vigi or whatever they have just to hammer someone who is flailing and needs a major play to save himself? Idk.

I just think it's unlikely that cop!Xata DOESNT say anything near EoD when he's leading wagon until 5 min before deadline AND doesn't say anything during the night to try to get a vigi shot off him. The most believable part of the claim is who he checked: disformation.

I really doubt they're both mafia together because of the voting point already mentioned. If Xata had red checked someone in the PoE like sicklucker or ES or even ruXxar, I would be more suspicious
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 13:10 GMT
#2319
If Xata flips mafia I feel like Skynx is basically confirmed mafia
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 13:11 GMT
#2321
If Xata flips cop/Town somehow I think there's a very good chance ruXxar is mafia as well as disformation
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 13:16 GMT
#2328
It also makes sense from mafia!Xatalos POV to red check disformation. We've already pointed out that if Xata flips scum, disformation is almost surely cleared as Town. Notice how the claim comes after ruXxar's post iirc.

So, you red check someone who will be confirmed town if you die first. If we lynch disformation first, we basically waste a lynch on a confirmed town (in the world that Xata is mafia).

Also couple that with the fact a dumb cop might CC Xat instinctively and I'm left with a pretty optimal fake claim play by someone who was already going to die. Why not go 1-1 with confirmed town/cop if you can?
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 13:19 GMT
#2332
Also if Xat gets lynched first and flips mafia, I'm basically confirmed town as well. So why not fake claim if both me and disformation would be spewed town by your death?
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 13:20 GMT
#2333
I'm content with lynching Xata into disformation if need be ATM
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 15:17 GMT
#2356
Hopefully it's as simple as Xata into SL.

Also why the fuck is this game dead when there's 19 people alive lol
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 16:34 GMT
#2366
On June 18 2017 01:30 disformation wrote:
also note how xata has avoided giving any reads so far.
you may call me out for not being very conclusive, but at least im trying to look at stuff.


Pretty sure he's just scum who doesn't want to further incriminate his teammates tbh
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 19:02 GMT
#2376
On June 18 2017 03:16 Tumblewood wrote:
OOHHHHHHHH that's why everyone is voting xata


No. We've been voting Xata since D1 lynch
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 19:03 GMT
#2377
RuXxar is either a friendly townsperson ke the biggest buddier in mafia history lol
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 19:53 GMT
#2381
On June 18 2017 04:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good thing we kill Xata

bye


Nice, thanks for your input.
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 20:36 GMT
#2384
It's sad to think there's like 10 town not doing jack shit in this entire game
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 21:15 GMT
#2391
On June 18 2017 06:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
Wait he claimed cop?


And a red check on disformation.

Maybe an SL lynch is safer
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June 17 2017 22:22 GMT
#2423
On June 18 2017 07:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:02 ruXxar wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
There won't be a cc hopefully. There'll simply be a red check on disformation and a scum guy lynched.

And if not, we lynch Xata. If the cop cc's, he's probably dead. Cop shouldn't cc here. But I always prefer lynching the check over the claim.

"If disfo is scum we can always lynch him later."
No? This is so wrong.



It's not wrong.
if disfo is lock scum, we can just leave him for last while we take out the others.

You're leaving scum alive who potentially is a scum power role AND who can vote AND who can derail the thread?

cool bra


How can he derail the thread if we know he's mafia?
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:23 GMT
#2426
On June 18 2017 07:09 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:05 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim

I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point)

how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy

The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check.

1. Mafia is a guessing game.
2. Mislynches happen super often
3. The moment a claim happens, it's the last way for the lynchee to avert his lynch

So
a) lynch cop
b) lynch check, most likely lose a vt, real cop survives


not sure how "lynch cop" is the better option here

Where is the difference between losing a VT and an outed cop?


Great q
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:30 GMT
#2435
On June 18 2017 07:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
##vote Chezitwo

yep.


So now you're voting outside of the cop/red check that you just told us to lynch
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:40 GMT
#2456
On June 18 2017 07:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:30 darthfoley wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
##vote Chezitwo

yep.


So now you're voting outside of the cop/red check that you just told us to lynch

Yeah but I found scum :>


But cop!Xata found us confirmed scum!!
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:42 GMT
#2460
On June 18 2017 07:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:22 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:19 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:11 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here)

This anecdotal evidence is not very convincing.

One day I'll understand why "lynch the cop" is better than "lynch the red-check"

one day

It isn't. But you need to consider the circumstances and this claim is incredibly fishy.

Why would mafia claim when there are like 5 votes on him? now it's more due to the claim and apparently everybody's fine with it.

if everybody's fine with something, it's probably scum.

Seriously?
Maybe because if we do what you say we lynch a townie, mafia survives a day and in the best case the real cop gets outed on top of it. Seems like a very good trade off compared to just going down without all of that.
In cases like this there is often an uncontested wagon on mafia.

Why do I have to explain basics like this...

Wait.

"If we do what you say we lynch a townie." - TMI.
"Mafia survives a day."

And how is it the best case if the real cop gets outed for town?

This sentence only makes sense from mafia perspective.


Also no, this sentence makes sense from any perspective
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:50 GMT
#2485
On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:35 disformation wrote:
i am not discrediting you.
i am telling you to use your head and look at xata and decide if you believe him to be cop.

I don't believe for a second that he's cop

but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town.


This is potentially the scummiest thing said today.

I've already been over this: if Xata is scum, disformation is basically confirmed town through vote analysis. If we lynch disformation and Xata is mafia, we basically kill someone who was gonna be confirmed town.

Grow some gonads. If you don't believe him "for a second", fucking lynch him.

Why the hell would the real cop CC the obvious lynch who's most likely scum even before this claim shenanigan? Only a shit cop would cc today.
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:52 GMT
#2490
Every time I play a game with btdt he always goes full emo mode where he gets his feelings hurt and the just flames people for days. Then apologizes and gets town read for it.

Let's wait for that apology in three days
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:54 GMT
#2493
I mean I can't believe he wants us to lynch the cop tomorrow and not today

+ Show Spoiler +
fuck omg tmi slip rip sorry mafia qt
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:54 GMT
#2494
On June 18 2017 07:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:52 darthfoley wrote:
Every time I play a game with btdt he always goes full emo mode where he gets his feelings hurt and the just flames people for days. Then apologizes and gets town read for it.

Let's wait for that apology in three days

Except this time, I'm not even mad. I found two scummers. And I get flamed, I'm not the one flaming here.


Well I'll gladly trade one cop for two mafia. If Xata flips cop you have done your job and found another mafia!!
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:56 GMT
#2496
On June 18 2017 07:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:49 disformation wrote:
go ahead lynch me.
but promise to send me a picture of your face when i flip green.

I love how this implies that I'm town not knowing your alignment

super lovely tmi


So you don't believe Xatalos's claim for a second but you also believ disformation is mafia.

Damn, looks like you got THREE mafia in one fell swoop!
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:56 GMT
#2498
On June 18 2017 07:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:54 darthfoley wrote:
I mean I can't believe he wants us to lynch the cop tomorrow and not today

+ Show Spoiler +
fuck omg tmi slip rip sorry mafia qt

This is a quality post that leverages the discussion to a whole new level. Very contributive. <3


I've done more this game than you and 8 other people combined. Very contributive indeed <3
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:57 GMT
#2500
Guys BTDT has found three mafia in 30 minutes.

All hail btdt!
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 22:58 GMT
#2502
Anyways I'm glad ruXxar and I baited people into becoming active in the thread. We got like three whole pages off of one sicklucker vote
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June 17 2017 23:00 GMT
#2505
On June 18 2017 07:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:57 darthfoley wrote:
Guys BTDT has found three mafia in 30 minutes.

All hail btdt!

So you know how I react when I get tilted and keep working on tilting me

good job


Not my fault you get tilted.
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June 17 2017 23:00 GMT
#2507
On June 18 2017 07:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:56 darthfoley wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:54 darthfoley wrote:
I mean I can't believe he wants us to lynch the cop tomorrow and not today

+ Show Spoiler +
fuck omg tmi slip rip sorry mafia qt

This is a quality post that leverages the discussion to a whole new level. Very contributive. <3


I've done more this game than you and 8 other people combined. Very contributive indeed <3

Yeah, currently you're working on getting the cop lynched, that's very good!


So now you believe his claim enough to call him the cop.

This is also coming from the guy who voted off-wagon D1 on a confirmed super town Koshi
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June 17 2017 23:02 GMT
#2509
On June 18 2017 08:01 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:58 darthfoley wrote:
Anyways I'm glad ruXxar and I baited people into becoming active in the thread. We got like three whole pages off of one sicklucker vote

I don't know if ruxxar really did this intentionally.


I think he did. His bullshit accusation of me EoN was also planned. This doesn't make him Town tho
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 23:05 GMT
#2512
I just can't believe cop!Xata doesn't claim anytime yesterday. He didn't even put up a fight in the showdown. Someone please tell me of a cop who 1) didn't claim in a heated 1v1 AND 2) didn't fight like hell to survive the 1v1.

If Xatalos had done #2 without #1, I could see his play. But doing neither and then claiming cop with a red check on disformation right after a few of us say disformation is spewed town by mafia!Xatalos is pretty rich
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 23:06 GMT
#2513
He also hasn't put in any effort today to clear his name or give reads. This is the most mafia claim of all time
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 23:07 GMT
#2515
Plus I'm biased because I want to be right. I sniffed this guy out within 2 pages of filter D1 and I want Koshi and HF to praise me post game. So there's my ulterior motive.

And if we lynch cop then I don't get the praise but we still get a mafia. Win-win!
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 23:09 GMT
#2519
The real question is, does mafia!Xata spew btdt town? Cuz I can't imagine a mafia sticking their necks out this far for a doomed teammate. Unless he's an important role, or if btdt saw potential in me and ruXxar showing doubt.

WIFOM!
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darthfoley
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June 17 2017 23:10 GMT
#2521
Also btdt calling Eversince's post "very good" while simultaneously saying disformation is mafia and Xatalos is cop.

So many contradictions in 3 pages
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June 17 2017 23:13 GMT
#2523
On June 18 2017 07:29 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 19:28 Xatalos wrote:
Eh. I haven't been able to really keep up with the game so well up to this point, so I'll just say it: I'm the Cop and I decided to check disfo last night. He returned Mafia.

I was so close to claiming Cop several times last EOD, but managed to barely hold it in, because I wanted to use my power at least once. Luckily it paid off big time.

Obviously believes that the risk of being mis-lynched/shot N1 was worth it for the complete 'chance' to hit the lottery with Disfo mafia result. Ok, let's see what he does with it.

--
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 19:30 Xatalos wrote:
One Miller already flipped so I suppose there could be another. Still, the odds are heavily in the favor of disfo being scum.

The next post, "possibilty if Disfo's not scum though"?

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 19:42 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:33 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:31 Chezitwo wrote:
Sadly it could be more believable if you weren't the designated lynch, Mr. Xatalos.


Well, I'm already dead by N2 regardless. I'm content even if disfo gets lynched tomorrow - of course today would be preferable so scum would use a kill on me instead.


Heres the thing.

Lynching you and having you flip as either alignment is going to give us more information than disfo flipping as scum.



Does it really? If disfo flips scum (very likely), then I die N2, it seems like the optimal situation info-wise. Even if I'm lying, it'd be apparent soon enough so makes no difference for vote information. In any case it's not too bad even if I do get lynched now I guess.]/red]

"If Disfo flips scum" Again with this trying to distance from the fact that Disfo might actually not be scum. Second bit is even more damning. If you are a un-cced cop why the hell would you use previous arguement "i didn't want scum to shoot me N1" if you are just going to make let the town waste the mis-lynch on you (Who you should be screaming yourself confirmed town) STILL? "Oh, I didn't want mafia to shoot me, but if town mis-lynches me as long as they still lynch my check tomorrow it's ok." Like wtf? Instead we get 1 dead cop at lynch. Then we get two dead townies in N2. Instead of one dead scum at lynch.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 disformation wrote:
mh actually i dont think a framer would frame me.
or a cop would check me over like tw or one of the inactives.


Yea I'd think the only realistic option would be that you're a second unaware Miller if you're town. Usually there's 2 of them from what I've seen. The odds are low though, like 10% or less. So I'm content our best bet is to just lynch you.

More like 1:19 odds. So less than 5%. "I'm CONTENT"?? Why the hell are you not yelling from the mountain tops that this dude is scum yet? Why do you ignore the fact that you claim a vig would be better off shooting into the in-actives to hopefully hit mafia blind. But you just "had a hunch because Disfo voted you" so you didn't check one of the '?' marks yourself with your check. Harder to call in-actives mafia than someone half the thread has at somepoint thought about the possibilty of him being scum? Nah, let's ignore that though. You didn't mind if you died first? Would that have been the same if you missed mafia here? You would still be #1 lynch today.

Followed with this:
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On June 17 2017 19:56 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:53 disformation wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead.

nonoonno you always shoot the close counterwagon to scum.
you cop check the inactives. hard to read. low volumes.


Not really. The lurky players are just a detriment at LYLO anyway, so it's better to kill them off immediately. Whereas somewhat active,[red] but not widely townread players are likely to live until LYLO but it's often hard to tell their alignment so checking is optimal.


So you know there is a possibilty of you dying N1, You are 100% dead N2. Better check the active guy we could figure out by lylo instead of the players you just said would need checking. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

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On June 17 2017 19:59 Xatalos wrote:
But other than that, it's quite unlikely we're both town I agree.

Disfo still not actually mafia in this guys head.

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On June 17 2017 20:02 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:55 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead.

So, are you going to solve the game today?

Because you put us in a very inconvenient position. Your claim is very suspicious.


Worst comes to worst, disfo is just a free lynch D3. I don't terribly mind that outcome since I'm dying soon no matter what.

Considering that, I think I'll have some time today to read the game so I can try to leave a legacy.


Again we get a dead cop, mafia get to shoot whoever instead of us getting to aim there shot. But no that's better than lynching mafia today forcing some of their kp onto you tonight. Screw it if there is a doctor somewhere you might actually even live! But "it's ok, town totally lynch me first" is the scummiest thing I've read in a while.

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On June 17 2017 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote:
Meh, I think I'm going to pack it up and and get me some fresh air.
I think todays lynch is pretty much set in stone.

It's up to the mafia to try and turn the tides.


It is actually surprisingly fine with me. I'm so dead regardless that a small boost to victory odds by tonnes of effort doesn't seem hugely appealing. If that's what we decide, then so be it.

That being said, I'm in the unique position of knowing that disfo is already scum, so I'll most likely look at things and try to solve the scumteam from that perspective later tonight when I have more time again.



This guy doesn't even believe his own claim. Disfo's not mafia, and this crap claim is just trying to de-rail the arguement and push one more mis-lynch before he dies This is much is plainly obvious.

##vote: Xatalos


Quoting for rayn/other lazy people's sake
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June 17 2017 23:14 GMT
#2525
Idk if btdt is scum. SL is probably still gonna flip scum
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June 17 2017 23:20 GMT
#2529
On June 18 2017 08:18 Chezitwo wrote:
I will reiterate that BTDT being obstinant and defending Xatalos is not scummy.


That's how I feel currently
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June 18 2017 00:17 GMT
#2533
So many votes with such little thread presence
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June 18 2017 15:16 GMT
#2651
On June 18 2017 18:54 Xatalos wrote:
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[image loading]GG town..


I hope you're proud of me Dad(s) (HF/Koshi)
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 15:26 GMT
#2652
On June 18 2017 22:49 sicklucker wrote:
in the end sicklucker wins us the game even when he lynches town because it forces mafia to show face. I love it

This is why I always try to get close wagons day 1. I hate people who did what vivax did yesterday and just wasted their vote


I thought HF said you never care about lynch wagons D1
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 15:32 GMT
#2654
So Fromm Xatalos's reads post plus what has gone on in the thread...

I think rayn has a greater chance to be scum because of how wishy washy Xata's read on him was.

Eversince's big post describing stuff that was already kind of apparent seems extra and over the top analysis. Like getting town cred.

But I don't understand why Xata posts baby seals here. Basically ruins all the town cred she would have gotten. Unless btdt/ES are actually scum somehow and trying to be "too dumb/obvious to be mafia."

I know who I would check if I were cop tonight.
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 15:33 GMT
#2655
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hint: it's not me
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June 18 2017 15:38 GMT
#2659
On June 19 2017 00:37 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 19 2017 00:32 darthfoley wrote:
Eversince's big post describing stuff that was already kind of apparent seems extra and over the top analysis. Like getting town cred.

ES is not the only one this applies to. I will point you towards BHs over the top outrage today.


We on the same wavelengf bruv
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 15:43 GMT
#2662
I'm just put off by his continued verbal commitment to play the game and ask me people to catch him up while not really following through on his end
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 19:19 GMT
#2725
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is it bad that what I'm most looking forward to this game is btdt coming back into the thread? Also his defending of Xata looks worse now that's xata baby seal'd. Its really obvious distancing
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 19:42 GMT
#2739
Honestly we shouldn't lynch Xatalos because he's the un-CC'd cop
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:06 GMT
#2748
Koshi and HF are good NKs for previously stated reasons. They're aggressive and good Town, stubborn in annoying way if you're mafia, and they both had suspicion on them which made a medic save unlikely. Although I wonder who medic saved if not them. Maybe rayn. Idk.

Anyways, I don't think we should dwell on that until after the flip. Xatalos's mafia role could give some important insight about how mafia felt EoD.

If he's a strong role, they probably tried to defend him moreso than they would if he were just a goon.

The other positive is that the real cop should have some interesting checks by tomorrow if he/she survives. Maybe even wait another day to have three checks. Also if we have a tracker or something that would be cool
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:07 GMT
#2750
I must say, I'm not sure I appreciate Vivax disappearing during this cycle. But beggars can't be choosers!
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:07 GMT
#2751
On June 19 2017 05:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
the only thing the hf/koshi kills say is that either

1. there is a 3rd party SK

2. The mafia team has at least one older player/leader


Can you explain what an SK is? I'm too lazy to google
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:31 GMT
#2768
On June 19 2017 05:23 Vivax wrote:
This day is official BS day I might as well not even evaluate anything anyone said today cause that's how autopilot it was.

The only nightmare scenario is that Xata flips cop. Then I might go back to a world where df can be mafia.


If you ever insinuate that I am mafia in this game again, I will bring my legions of townspeople to my defense and lynch you
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:32 GMT
#2769
On June 19 2017 05:29 Vivax wrote:
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On June 19 2017 05:27 disformation wrote:
On June 19 2017 05:24 Vivax wrote:
On June 19 2017 05:22 disformation wrote:
vivax also had i think 3 moments now where i kinda had this "are we reading the same game" moment


Ye and you never made anything of it. Wanna make something of it now? Go ahead. Or at which number do you place the cutoff?

y so angry?


I'm a direct person if you people want to call me mafia go straight ahead but all three of you just softing it makes me really want to call you all mafia.


You're a direct person who then shies away from being direct at the end of your post. The irony!

Are we mafia or aren't we mafia, old boy?!
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:33 GMT
#2771
On June 19 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I on the other hand had at multiple times the feeling that mafia is more active than town.


Also kind of complete bullshit considering the two most active players were killed N1. So I'm not sure how the mafia could be more active than a 15pg Koshi filter and HF at like 8 or whatever
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 20:46 GMT
#2773
Damdred having a one page filter is equally cumbersome
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 21:02 GMT
#2778
On June 19 2017 05:52 Vivax wrote:
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On June 19 2017 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
On June 19 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I on the other hand had at multiple times the feeling that mafia is more active than town.


Also kind of complete bullshit considering the two most active players were killed N1. So I'm not sure how the mafia could be more active than a 15pg Koshi filter and HF at like 8 or whatever


They didn't have to be the most active, just active enough to constantly be around and look like they're doing things. There's mafia who do that you know.

I think Ruxxar could easily fit into that category. He had a very slow, scummy start D1 and spent only the entirety of D2 toying around in the thread when there's nothing to do anyway.


I agree with you about ruXxar. He's been very chummy. Could well be mafia. I still think the cop check is better spent elsewhere though.
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 21:07 GMT
#2779
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, [r]Xatalos[/r], Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Wouldn't it be amazing if 5/7 votes on annul? Probably wishful thinking.

I'm most curious about whether Xatalos wagon was pure. Specifically Skynx and disformation obvi
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 21:07 GMT
#2780
5/7 votes on annul were mafia*
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 22:56 GMT
#2791
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:09 GMT
#2807
Waiting on that apology from btdt.

So basically, cop check either Skynx or any of the scummy people on annul's wagon.

Xata being the rb is actually sick. There's probably still a Godfather somewhere hiding, but at least we know the cop can't be blocked.

If for some reason the vigi didn't take the shot last night, take it tonight. Maybe even claim your shot so you don't shoot the cop check? Idk. Probably doesn't matter considering we aren't likely to have a vigi (unless it was one of the AFK people, for example.)

Would appreciate a medic save cuz I'm super duper town. Unless you wanna WIFOM it up. But better to be safe than sorry
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:11 GMT
#2809
And the Damdred modkill makes our lives easier. At least we don't waste a lynch/check on an AFK town.
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:12 GMT
#2810
On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
tier 1 bad day 1 voting

fecalfeast

tier 2

rels, grackaroni

tier 3

eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy

there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least.


Agreed. Can you explain why FF is tier1 bad voting?
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June 18 2017 23:15 GMT
#2815
On June 19 2017 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On June 19 2017 08:09 darthfoley wrote:
Waiting on that apology from btdt.

So basically, cop check either Skynx or any of the scummy people on annul's wagon.

Xata being the rb is actually sick. There's probably still a Godfather somewhere hiding, but at least we know the cop can't be blocked.

If for some reason the vigi didn't take the shot last night, take it tonight. Maybe even claim your shot so you don't shoot the cop check? Idk. Probably doesn't matter considering we aren't likely to have a vigi (unless it was one of the AFK people, for example.)

Would appreciate a medic save cuz I'm super duper town. Unless you wanna WIFOM it up. But better to be safe than sorry



skynx actually comes out of this looking surprisingly good, he was 2nd/3rd vote on xatalos which is when a wagon really starts. either a well timed bus or hes just town. Getting a cop check on him would mean annul wagon could be 100% clean though, hes really the only sketchy one there


Exactly. Like if we can clear the Xata wagon as 100% town, it basically means the mafia were super desperate and probably had 4 votes on annul.

But yea, framer blablabla WIFOM. Or we could just lynch Skynx and prove it the old fashioned way.
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:17 GMT
#2817
On June 19 2017 08:12 disformation wrote:
be a bit careful with checks though.
might have a framer.


If there's actually 5 mafia, I would be very surprised if there wasn't a framer

RB
GF
Framer
Goon
Goon

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omg tmi
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:23 GMT
#2821
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Updated
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June 18 2017 23:26 GMT
#2823
On June 19 2017 08:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On June 19 2017 08:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
tier 1 bad day 1 voting

fecalfeast

tier 2

rels, grackaroni

tier 3

eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy

there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least.


I'm interested in the FF case.
Please elaborate.


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On June 16 2017 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote
##vote annul


Yolo


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On June 16 2017 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
I know xata is a name being thrown around as scummy but i admit i haven't even checked his filter 😎


starts day tunneling a ruxxar lynch that never happens, xatalos is also on this train. switches purely to save xatalos at this point, zero explanation.

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On June 16 2017 04:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I could vote skynx. Xatas filter isn't great but it doesn't seem scummy to me. He does a lot of commenting on other people's posts but does post a bunch of reads before he goes afk which is helpful


vague post later about his filter, no reason to read it they are on the same team

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On June 17 2017 03:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 17 2017 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm willing to let ever live for a bit at least.

We have to kill xata and sl ( and ruxxar) first anyway



still tunneling ruxxar even though it makes little sense at this point, with token low hanging fruits added


nonexistant day 2, majority of his filter is day 1


I would be surprised if he wasnt scum honestly


Hmmm. Interesting case. I didn't really ever understand why people were hard TRing him D1. I think it was Vivax/disformation iirc but idk
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:42 GMT
#2832
On June 19 2017 08:38 Vivax wrote:
lol @ VA trying to push mafia on FF.

He's probably mafia just for that tbh


Question: is there anyone who's actually Town in this game? Cuz all you seem to do is bitch about people generating discussion and call people "probably mafia"
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:51 GMT
#2835
Good to know I'm not on the town list even though I'm the main reason the roleblocker is dead. Makes sense
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:54 GMT
#2839
Btdt is scum btw
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June 18 2017 23:56 GMT
#2840
On June 19 2017 08:51 Vivax wrote:
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On June 19 2017 08:51 darthfoley wrote:
Good to know I'm not on the town list even though I'm the main reason the roleblocker is dead. Makes sense


You are being toxic you know that?


Fair enough. Just feel like you've been overly obstinate with me for no reason. But it's a two way street, so I'll lay off.
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darthfoley
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June 18 2017 23:57 GMT
#2841
On June 19 2017 08:54 darthfoley wrote:
Btdt is scum btw


I'm deadly serious about this btw
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 00:01 GMT
#2845
On June 19 2017 08:58 disformation wrote:
vivi prolly town. remind me to explain later.
could you explain the btdt scum read?


Yes. Give me a minute
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 00:26 GMT
#2846
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



So, firstly. Let's see who btdt votes for during this entire voting cycle: Koshi, and Koshi only. Who's town. That's only a minor point, however. What's more interesting is if you take a look at BTDT's filter, specifically revolving around Xatalos. I've spoilered it to keep my post condensed, but I've basically control+F'd "Xata" in his filter.

From the beginning:

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On June 14 2017 20:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata you're not saying anything in your posts, you're just commenting on things and speculating about 3rd party

that's superbad


Xata starts out as "superbad." Then, I pressure both Xata with my vote, and I pressure btdt to put his money where his mouth is and join me.

On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, [darthfoley] also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


Cool. We both don't like Xata. And Btdt is town reading me in part due to our mutual scum read on Xata. I've placed my vote on him already. Btdt hasn't.

On June 14 2017 22:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 22:54 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


We mindmelded at almost the same time about Xata. Simply put, his filter is basically him trying to make friends and say nothing about everything.

On June 14 2017 16:42 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something.


Buddy post that doesn't accurately depict what Skynx's post was actually about ruXxar.

I feel like he also gave Koshi two too many posts about how Koshi caught him with the smiley thing. It just felt as if he gave that off hand comment too much attention (three posts in total).

On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:
Skynx: true, ruxxar's +1 is more blendy than disfo's vague list, especially in reaction to said list.. very meh

disfo: that's pretty.. detail-focused it'd be very funny if he turned out to be SK or something (I think that was a possible role?)


followed by

On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:
TBH I don't think it tells much of anything though


I know it's early but his whole filter has been filler. Hardly any stances taken. The ones he's taken have either been retractable, misconstrued (like the skynx post) or buddy attempts at various "town leader" type people. In my position, I would've said something along the lines of "oh my bad, I misread the point of your post..." but he just rolled with the mistake

+1

I like this and it reflects what I'm thinking as well.


Nice! BTDT likes my case, and it reflects what he's thinking as well. So BTDT "generally favors" my idea to vote/lynch Xata, and likes my case! So what's he waiting on with his vote? Good question.

On June 14 2017 23:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:15 Damdred wrote:
@HF I have feelings about koshi. I don't think he is mafia, could potentially be third party, possibly town. In either case I don't have anything super strong to say he is town.

I do think if rayn is scum koshi can't be, but I'd rather not be bad and rest on that yet.

@btdt, I still think that first sentence is borderline if not fear mongering. Even if you say all the rest that first sentence gives you enough wiggle room to go back on all of the rest. I don't like it. And as for low on hf, he's burned me enough for me to not be in absolutes.


Yeah I'm pretty sure nobody else has every said that HF's scumgame is good.
Like, you even imply it in the bolded part.
So if you insist on me fearmongering here you'll have to admit that you're doing it too, just in a more subtle way.


I think yours is easier to go back on. And subtlety is the spice od life baby.

But really I might of missed some of the context of your post trying to catch up. Overall I agree with most of your posts.

So let me summarize

1. you point out how I am fearmongering with regards to holyflare
2. you insist that I do it
3. you do it yourself

And then you back off of me, saying you "might have missed some of the context" of my post.

Damdred comes on the scum pile for now. So Koshi, xata, Damdred.


Okay, Xata is officially on BTDT's scum list, with two other confirmed towns at this point. Which fits into the mafia narrative of 2:1 town:parter scum reads, but again, that's minor speculation.

On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.


So, Koshi looks better, and Xata, his scum read looks worse. Remember, BTDT only votes on Koshi this cycle-- even though he's "looking better" while his other scum read is admittedly "looking worse."

On June 16 2017 15:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 16 2017 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why it is a good thing Xatalos was 2nd wagon? Alot depends on his alignment votewise. But if you think he is scum isnt it a BAD thing he was a second wagon and not 1st????

I cancelled some plans today so i can focus better on catching up after work. I insta-fell asleep yesterday when i got home.


This is why the first bad thing was that annul was lynched over Xata.
I think Koshi worked his way up slowly but he didn't make it out of scum range.
Nevertheless he wasn't second wagon.
Xata was a good second wagon. Because Xata is also among my scumreads. I brought up some points early and I think darthfoley cased him, too, and I agreed with him.

So yes, Xata is a good second wagon.


This is directly after the lynch. Notice how he keeps talking about how he cased Xata, etc. But he N E V E R voted on him. EVER. He left his vote on fucking town!Koshi, who he even said looked "better" while confirmed mafia Xata looked worse.



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June 19 2017 00:27 GMT
#2847
Now that's what we call a solid fucking case.
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 00:30 GMT
#2848
He knew he wouldn't be able to get away with voting town!annul given his filter and scum reads on Xata, but he never committed to the read on Xata, even when it became a 1v1 with one of his three scum reads. Town will ALWAYS vote the wagon of their 2nd highest scum read if their highest scum read wagon isn't happening.

Let's not forget how over explanatory this post was for one sentence of Koshi content, in order to justify his meaningless vote on town!Koshi

On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 01:05 GMT
#2849
Darn. All you EU people and your sleep
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 01:42 GMT
#2852
On June 19 2017 10:30 ruXxar wrote:
That's a pretty solid case foley, good work.

However, I'm still going to lynch into the people that were on the annul train first.


It's nearly 4AM in Norge. Time to sleep
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 01:51 GMT
#2853
On June 19 2017 10:10 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm awake and highly American. We should vote btdt and write cases on him and see how angry he gets it's s 10/10 experience


I hope you're town because you're funny lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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June 19 2017 02:00 GMT
#2854
On June 16 2017 06:30 Koshi wrote:
I really hope the town within you guys keep a close eye on the thread and do that last minue Xatalos vote. Except for the 3 people realllllyyyy believing he is mafia he got a lot of pushback. rayn as well btw.

and looking at the Xatalos filter he is SUPER FUCKING EASY to vote on if he is town. What a fucking bad filter. So why isn't mafia doing that?


God damn this was a beautiful point. Said so at the time, but it's worth reiterating
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 02:00 GMT
#2855
^which makes it even more suspect that BTDT never actually voted for Xata
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 02:05 GMT
#2856
Reading Koshi filter and there's a chance Vivax might be mafia.
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 04:34 GMT
#2858
Meh just read through Vivax's filter and I only saw a few things that concerned me. His adamant defense of Xata multiple times, and this post specifically:

On June 16 2017 20:29 Vivax wrote:
Nevermind that btdt I thought that the Xata read was before the lynch .

You actually had no opinion on Xata for the entirety of D1, or I'm not seeing it.


This is really false. Btdt was clear in stating his supposed his "scumread" on Xata as my previous post shows.

Anyways, I don't think he's a lynch anytime soon. But keep an eye out for the wily Viennese bonbon
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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June 19 2017 04:37 GMT
#2859
Damn I just reread that Koshi justification post and holy shit does it feel constructed and forced.

Koshi I'll make you proud with another scum lynch
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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June 19 2017 09:56 GMT
#2889
On June 19 2017 18:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred.


He conceded because no one bought his fake ass cop claim except for you lol
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June 19 2017 10:00 GMT
#2890
On June 19 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 18:17 disformation wrote:
one or more?
On June 19 2017 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Updated

since everyone but skynx and me on that wagon already flipped that would be quite hard.
and while i appreciate some paranoia, i am not sure how you are going to read me as scum outside of tinfoil.^^

I think it's possible for darth, skynx and you to be scum

Skynx and darth over you though.


Let me get some of what you're smoking please. There's like a 0.1% chance I'm mafia yet you say the person scum!Xata "red checked" is more town than the person/main reason Xata died in the first place
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 10:01 GMT
#2891
Your reads baffle me
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June 19 2017 11:16 GMT
#2897
On June 19 2017 18:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
two wagons, one scum, one town, and even scum roleblocker.
so there must be scum on the annul wagon, yep. and probably one or more scum on xata wagon, being in the qt like "meh, I'll just stay on Xata to gain bus cred"

fair distribution IMHO


"One or more scum" lol the mafia RB is critical without medic/cop flipped. The idea that 40% of the mafia team, assuming there are five mafia, would be okay with the RB going down D1 just for some town cred is pretty silly.
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June 19 2017 11:20 GMT
#2898
On June 19 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 19:00 darthfoley wrote:
On June 19 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 19 2017 18:17 disformation wrote:
one or more?
On June 19 2017 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Updated

since everyone but skynx and me on that wagon already flipped that would be quite hard.
and while i appreciate some paranoia, i am not sure how you are going to read me as scum outside of tinfoil.^^

I think it's possible for darth, skynx and you to be scum

Skynx and darth over you though.


Let me get some of what you're smoking please. There's like a 0.1% chance I'm mafia yet you say the person scum!Xata "red checked" is more town than the person/main reason Xata died in the first place

I'm interested in the math behind this Trump-like "0.1% chance I'm mafia" statement. It's plain bullshit. You pushed a scummer and went through it, congrats, I did the same, except I afk'ed D1 and ended up voting Koshi instead of Xata.

Yet you scumread me and claim to be 99.9% town?


Lol, stop equating my pushing with yours. I actually voted for the scum while you wasted yours on confirmed town for bullshit reasons of one sentence in one post lol.
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 11:24 GMT
#2899
You're right that you did go AFK right before Xata became a full fledged wagon, so touché to the time stamps
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June 19 2017 12:24 GMT
#2902
On June 19 2017 21:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 20:20 darthfoley wrote:
On June 19 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 19 2017 19:00 darthfoley wrote:
On June 19 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 19 2017 18:17 disformation wrote:
one or more?
On June 19 2017 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Updated

since everyone but skynx and me on that wagon already flipped that would be quite hard.
and while i appreciate some paranoia, i am not sure how you are going to read me as scum outside of tinfoil.^^

I think it's possible for darth, skynx and you to be scum

Skynx and darth over you though.


Let me get some of what you're smoking please. There's like a 0.1% chance I'm mafia yet you say the person scum!Xata "red checked" is more town than the person/main reason Xata died in the first place

I'm interested in the math behind this Trump-like "0.1% chance I'm mafia" statement. It's plain bullshit. You pushed a scummer and went through it, congrats, I did the same, except I afk'ed D1 and ended up voting Koshi instead of Xata.

Yet you scumread me and claim to be 99.9% town?


Lol, stop equating my pushing with yours. I actually voted for the scum while you wasted yours on confirmed town for bullshit reasons of one sentence in one post lol.

My vote on or off Xata was super irrelevant D2. I could've voted Hillary, Trump, Xata or he-who-must-not-be-named. No difference at all. And how is Chezitwo confirmed town?

And of course you're right, I cannot equate your push with mine. After all, my push was earlier than yours and you picked up what I said, then you proceeded to get scum lynched. Good stuff but that doesn't make me scum; nor does it confirm you as town.

Of course it puts you super high on the town list but given the ease with which Xata went down (no fight, auto, no scum even bothering to put someone else on the table in spite of the Ruxxar bait) I'm not clearing anyone who pushed him yet.


I never said Chezitwo was confirmed town
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June 19 2017 12:35 GMT
#2908
On June 19 2017 21:33 disformation wrote:
though. that bait was like 3mins b4 deadline.
how likely is it that two ppl bite?


very unlikely
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 13:00 GMT
#2919
The only thing about Grack is that I know he was in another game early on in this one. Which makes me feel like 5% sympathy towards his inactivity.

Really interesting analysis regarding the FF "bait," disformation. I'm still surprised with how heavy Vivax has been TRing him
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June 19 2017 13:03 GMT
#2920
On June 19 2017 21:57 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:48 sicklucker wrote:
can we consolidate on annul koshi? I really dont want to have to vote xata over him if I get 1 more vote


so we basically have 5 ppl with really weak reads on xata voting annul.
grack/rels/es/fefe/sicklucker


Cop check into that.

If there's a vigi, I think vigi should shoot into that, and claim who they're shooting so the cop doesn't check that person and waste it. Plus there's no RB so vigi shot goes through 100% even with a claim.

+ Show Spoiler +
That plan gives mafia the chance to fake claim vigi to scare cop away from checking someone, but that should be pretty easy to spot.

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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 13:04 GMT
#2921
Hopefully some blues hide within the inactives. Almost certainly, so that should make the game somewhat easier to solve when claims happen
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 13:10 GMT
#2925
Yea, let's do that.

I've never played with FF before, outside of that cell game 2 years ago, so i'm not sure how he plays.
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darthfoley
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June 19 2017 13:11 GMT
#2927
I'll read through Rels and Grack, you can take ES
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June 19 2017 13:32 GMT
#2931
Grack on annul/Xata:
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On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.

i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas.

Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter.

It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game.

I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great.


Weird that he wants to vote Koshi while also scumreading annul for his commitment to the Koshi push.

On June 16 2017 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Xatalos was pretty meh. I legitimately don't think he has been any more meh than disfo. The one scum game I remember from him he played a very aggressive style.


On June 16 2017 07:55 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:48 disformation wrote:
grack comment on the ninja?
not complaining though.
have a hell of a hard time decicing between annul and xata

I don't have much to say beyond what I've said decently in my filter.

Annul seems like a better lynch than Xatalos to me. HF push on SL seems a lot more agenda driven than HF believing he has a bulletproof case.



There's really only that one previous line I quoted as to why he thinks annul is a better lynch than Xatalos. Very weak defense right here. This is basically his entire filter btw. Super lackluster


Rels:
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On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:
My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince.

ruxxar:
- "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it.
- buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible.

Skynx:
- good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it".

Koshi:
- didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad.
- called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad.
- good post on BTBT being bad
- a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere
- p35. Lock town.

disfo:
- pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check.
- had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around.

rayn:
- picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good.

Vivax:
- entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good.
- liking the annul's post I liked. Good.

BTDT:
- called Koshi town for no reason
- turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi
- townie posts though (p 21)

annul:
- calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good


DF:
- also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI.
- nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.

Damdred:
- weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite.
- though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie.

FF:
- liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it.

Eversince:
- answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post.

Grack:
- weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good.

Xata:
- good post on ruxxar.


rayn:
- LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town.


So here, annul is good = town. Xata is also good = town. But he likes my case on Xata and calls it convincing.

On June 16 2017 07:05 Rels wrote:
I don't think Xata is scum. I can follow his logic in his filter.


Uhh... okay. Never explains this.

On June 16 2017 07:11 Rels wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:10 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote:
xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead


I guess I'll do that if there's just no other choice. I don't really see how SL is the best lynch here tho

Why do you assume annul is town there ?


This feels like a little TMI from Rels. I don't think Xata was "assuming" annul was town, but I could be wrong.

These posts actually make Rels look much better, I think.

On June 16 2017 07:16 Rels wrote:
and WTF annul if you're scumreading SL way more than Xata why did you vote Xata instead of SL ? When voting SL then:
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On June 16 2017 06:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Xatalos (4): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation
annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast
sicklucker (3): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
ruXxar (2): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (7): Rels, Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Xatalos out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

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On June 16 2017 06:50 annul wrote:
##unvote

##vote xatalos

would have put SL over you ?


On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely


On June 16 2017 07:38 Rels wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:35 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:33 annul wrote:
no, if he switched i actually would too, because he could always switch onto me anyway once he figured out i was bluffing if i was bluffing.

like the math is sound. it is ENTIRELY a self preservation move. i do not want to do this; i would prefer other lynches

mmmmmmmmm

No the math fucking doesn't. YES you're one vote less with the switch compared to the main wagon. BUT NOW INSTEAD OF LYNCHING YOUR SCUMREAD IF THERE ARE NO OTHER VOTES YOU RE LYNCHING YOUR TOWNREAD.

Without switch:
Xatalos (5): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul
annul (4): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xata
sicklucker (3): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax

With switch:
sicklucker (5): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax, Xata, annul
Xatalos (4): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation
annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast


I still don't like how Rels discussed annul/Xata early game, and that much of his vote on annul came EoD rather than for reasons earlier. But the logic is sound and much better than Grack's. Rels could still be scum, but he hid his tracks pretty well through the vote
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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June 19 2017 13:37 GMT
#2934
I think Grack has a better chance of flipping scum than Rels atm. But in retrospect, I think Rels might have hammered annul a little too hard for self preservation. To me, the SL wagon never really felt like it was real or going anywhere. Even when it was 4-3-3. That kind felt like the high point of votes SL was going to get, given how much attention Xata/annul got. So maybe Rels really did cover his tracks well.

I mean, maybe annul voting SL would have changed things. But people were already speculating annul+Xata both scum, so him moving to SL would further perpetuate that idea. So town!annul votes Xata thinking that 1) it's more likely to actually save him than moving to SL, and 2) it defends against the idea that Xata/annul are on scum team together.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:42 GMT
#2936
I hope tonight's actions provide some clarity to the inactives and shit. I thoroughly expect me and disformation to die, but hopefully the medic can save one of us.

17 people left in the game, probably 12 or 13v4 depending if there's 3p. Scum get 2 kp tonight, and there might be 3p KP. So hopefully medic/jk/whatever can save someone. At least we have 2 checks after tonight without a roleblock

Theres probably 3 or 4 town roles. Hopefully they don't get shot tonight. I would hate to die before revealing all that I know

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:43 GMT
#2939
On June 19 2017 22:41 disformation wrote:
yeah rels jumped at annul very hard for that.
so could be an easy dismissal of the scum mate's wagon and straight onto the first remotely scummy thing he sees.


Yea, it seems like it could be a wily veteran move. He jumped super hard on him for that.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:44 GMT
#2941
Chezitwo, i'm willing to townread you now. You've made quite a few decent points. Congratulations, welcome to the club. Membership may be revoked at any time!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:45 GMT
#2942
If I live through tonight, I should have a decent grasp on where we are in the game. Town is in a good position, but let's not fuck it up
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:50 GMT
#2948
Yea, Palmar is probably 3p at this point. No way he's this inactive as scum lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:52 GMT
#2949
This game is funny because all the blues besides me and disformation are trying to be scummy to survive the 2kp NKs, while the 3rd party is trying to be inactive to survive, while the mafia are being inactive to survive.

So much inactivity, so much surviving!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 13:59 GMT
#2955
On June 19 2017 22:58 disformation wrote:
maybe the 3p have an inactivity virus.
you can infect one person a night. the person infected gets a posting restriction that gets worse and worse as the game progresses.
the virus is not revealed on flip unless the original host flips.
so a virus that makes ppl into survivors that are not allowed to post more than a few posts per cycle.


Lmao that would be sick. Except there's only been one night and like 10 inactives
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 14:28 GMT
#2961
I kind of always scum read TW until he makes a "this reads post is so off that it must be town" post that he did earlier in the game.

But yea, he could still be mafia.

The only people playing this game are me, disformation, chez, vivax, ruX, and btdt sometimes. It's really frustrating and not that fun, regardless of my alignment. I thought there was gonna be a ton of activity, but this game is more dead at 17 alive than a 13 person D1 mini lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 14:37 GMT
#2966
On June 19 2017 23:35 Vivax wrote:
VA almost solely cause he came out of the blue with the fefe case on someone I'm very confident to be town and laid out reasons for, and rayn cause he lacks townie aggression almost entirely.

Person I didn't read much into lately is ES but I still kind of think mafia from D1 stuff.


So you don't think there's anything weird about how FF did that bait thing that disformation pointed out? What's the town agenda behind that?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 14:40 GMT
#2969
Yes, rayn is extremely worrying to me at this point. He's promised to start playing ~3 times and only does these huge reads posts
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 15:08 GMT
#2977
On June 20 2017 00:06 ruXxar wrote:
On my way home from work, so I'll get some more thoughts out later, but just to leave you with my preferred lynch order:

Grack.
Rels.
Maybe ES.

It's just super obvious to lynch people on the town train before people on the scum train.

If you try to convince me or town that there was only 1 mafia on the annul train I'll be nominating you for the Darwin Award.


you or town?

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 15:14 GMT
#2979
A simple "I concede :/" will suffice
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 16:30 GMT
#3016
Chez has been really town since he joined the game imo
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 22:29 GMT
#3091
Y'all know what I think already. If I die, don't get cold feet.

Hope I survive. Fingers crossed
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 22:31 GMT
#3092
Can field any final questions for me if someone needs clarification
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 19 2017 23:07 GMT
#3127
GG gl Town!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
July 04 2017 19:31 GMT
#6766
yea this setup feels pretty mafia favored. i didnt really follow the game super closely after i died, but i'm surprised BH survived so long. his posts felt forced (but i've never played with him before so idk)

overall it was fun though, at least while i was alive
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
July 04 2017 21:15 GMT
#6809
On July 05 2017 05:54 sicklucker wrote:
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On July 05 2017 05:51 Rels wrote:
On July 05 2017 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
damn if we just lynched rels earlier there was hope

lol. If you had fought for my lynch instead of lynching Grack 'cause he was the first in the list, maybe you wouldn't have been shot


hypothetical are fun. what if the vig shot the guy everyone wanted him to shoot n1 :D


yea why the hell did VA not shoot xatalos?
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