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On June 03 2017 20:40 Holyflare wrote: I blame marv. Actually, me too. | ||
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SC2 ded gaem, no TL traffic? + Show Spoiler + At least I visited TL a lot more often when I still played SC2. | ||
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On June 09 2017 15:20 Vivax wrote: There are many funny role ideas for big games. When times are dire and TL doesn't get sign ups, I resort to town of salem to quench the thirst. It has massive flaws since it doesn't have the concept of a VT from the start meaning that mafia and NK always have to cc someone (ideally), and you need to play against a limited time so it mostly comes down to claim wars. Also town roles are hilariously overpowered. The jailkeeper can execute people at night and interrogate you. These are screenshots from one game where I was werewolf and killed the entire town on N2, but also myself cause my target got transported into the veteran along with the rest of the town. D3 the only survivors were : The 3 mafia, the survivor, and the veteran who they lynched, winning the game. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xOGElcc.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CjJmJOn.jpg) Ah yeah, Town of Salem can be fun, although it's often pretty random  (just like SC2 Mafia where it originally came from) (tbh it's really more like poker than forum Mafia...) | ||
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On June 13 2017 18:03 Skynx wrote: Pregame excuse: deadline 2am for me gl, hf! I will sheep the bandwagon  | ||
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On June 14 2017 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote: This deadline is nice for me. ##vote koshi :/ | ||
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On June 14 2017 12:55 Tumblewood wrote: is fecalfeast always comically suspicious How? Rather, he seemed relaxed / at ease to me. Unlike this other guy! + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + At work now.. semi-online, semi-AFK. | ||
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The deadline is what's killing me. | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:13 disformation wrote: @hf: cuz voting on phone sucks. @vivi: could be serious bait? @rayn: i thought he was saying he is voting you cause he got a not relaxed / at ease vibe grom you. like he asys ff is chill and you are not. Indeed. + Show Spoiler + TBH you might want to take a look at the voting thread though.. It was not a real vote. | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote: You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting? Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there. First post conf town, goos shit there. Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other?? Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter. Very good post here. Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something. | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:13 disformation wrote: @hf: cuz voting on phone sucks. @vivi: could be serious bait? @rayn: i thought he was saying he is voting you cause he got a not relaxed / at ease vibe grom you. like he asys ff is chill and you are not. Hmmm. OK, I kind of get it. You though I was seriously accusing rayn of being "un-relaxed" all the time and just didn't understand why? | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote: This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:45 Koshi wrote: Still nothing wrong with it. I like the post as well. Why would that post be more mafia aligned? I'm usually a bit apprehensive of (somewhat) large early posts that touch on many issues, but the stances are very obvious / weak / null. | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote: See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. I see.. Can't argue with math. It's too bad. | ||
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disfo: that's pretty.. detail-focused it'd be very funny if he turned out to be SK or something (I think that was a possible role?) | ||
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On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote: Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan. 3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo. Best case 2017 :D | ||
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On June 14 2017 18:31 sicklucker wrote: da hell are you newb Yes. + Show Spoiler + No. | ||
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On June 14 2017 18:32 disformation wrote: hmmm... cop with a random check at the start of the game? hmmmmmmmmm... like dunno. cop with a random green check at the start of the game doesnt sound too far fetched imo. cop with a red at the very start of the game is really nasty for scum. esp. since pre game it was kinda implied that a lot of ppl wanted "weaker" and less swingy power roles. doesnt help that the check is on someone who has a history of not showing up or afking a bunch. I think he's doing the BH thing of just making a random post on a random target. | ||
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On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote: btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. Thanks for the laugh :D It's a good point though. WTF is that argument even I thought you were claiming Survivor earlier but apparently not. | ||
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On June 14 2017 20:24 Holyflare wrote: Started all depressing. My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta. Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta. You've done nothing to push game forward. Absolutely no 투혼. 3P/mafia koshi. Hm, well, that's better than the earlier case. | ||
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On June 14 2017 20:35 Holyflare wrote: Let's get 2 wagons on rayn and koshi. Gogo. If you're right, I'll worship you as God. So much out of so little :D I guess I could go for rayn. Should be interesting. | ||
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On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what? I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia. Yeah, rayn is being very lackluster. I don't even know what mind comes up with this post to defend Koshi. At that point, Koshi was only accused of being 3P.... | ||
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I'm glad to serve. ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Lleyn_sheep.jpg) | ||
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And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler". | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:02 Vivax wrote: Cause five wagons with 2 people each isn't a threat to anyone. Day 1 is forging a club of townies to smack people with who think they can get away with anything. Ruxxar seems like a fine lynch to me. There were basically several red flags already in his short filter. I'll elaborate in a bit. | ||
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I mean, if 3P, the huge wagon could make sense, but scum Koshi shouldn't have gathered such a huge wagon easily IMO. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote: Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion. @ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it. Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those.. Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress). | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote: From what I gathered: His meta is off and he acknowledged that it is off. He stated he will not look like his mafia meta this game. He seems to be fishing for scumreads and openly admits to it in thread. Annul thinks he(koshi) should have included annul in his list post because he based a read on vivax on a read vivax gave to annul. He went back and forth on btdt and he isn't pushing the thread forward. He jumped on palmar for no reason. This is what I remember from other people's posts none of these points are mine. I personally disagree that claiming to know your own meta is scummy and I think he has made some decent posts and one or two not so decent posts. Hmmm... Well I guess 3P is plausible given the weird points. Seems like there are better bets though, like ruxxar, or maybe rayn, so the huge wagon seems overkill. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote: I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? For rayn, it's mostly just that he's been very lackluster/passive so far. The worst thing that stood out to me was how he just talked about "Koshi not being mafia" though everybody was speculating about Koshi being 3P at that point. It's like he didn't even read what people said about Koshi and made his conclusion anyway. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:34 Eversince wrote: @Xata- Why is Rayn a good lynch? Somebody sell me on this. I'm not seeing it at all I kind of answered that already, in a ninja way. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:35 darthfoley wrote: I'm more interested in hearing what you make of the game and its players at this point, now that you've caught up. Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar: 1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation. 2) This post... On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote: This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. ...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would). 3) On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote: I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia. ##vote koshi Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever? - - - All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:44 disformation wrote: haha. my memory is good! i did peak a bit at some of ruxxars old games. (town ruxxar in nsm13 and scum ruxxar in himalayas) no similarity with either game. like none at all. i remember him being a fairly easy town read for me early in nsm13 now. also from nsm13: + Show Spoiler + added some boldage. On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself. You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered. My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole. so i dont think reading his old filters will help us at all. Hmm.... Interesting find. I guess he's faithful to his "plan" then. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote: @xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. but as fefe pointed out: Yeah, it's kind of the same thing as when he said "strong first post" and then made a pretty non-fitting explanation for that later on (do you really say a post is a "strong post" if you think it's simply unpolished/bad in a towny way?). | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote: For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. Sometimes when a thing looks scummy/suspicious, it does in fact just come from scum | ||
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On June 15 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote: Who was saying the koshi wagon is too fast? It has 5 fucking votes on it. I think I said that first? And FF too at some point? Anyways, he does actually have 6 votes already with no true challenger. I thought it was 7 but apparently I was wrong. This doesn't mean he can't be 3P, at all, but it feels like he's sinking a bit too easily if scum. | ||
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1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh). 2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM). 3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town. 4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him. 4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense. 5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched. 6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote: Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel? ...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite. That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either. 7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ??? Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time. So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall. | ||
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I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD. Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place.. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote: xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead I guess I'll do that if there's just no other choice. I don't really see how SL is the best lynch here tho | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote: palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:13 Rels wrote: Didn't you just say you were OK voting SL to save you and annul I said I can vote SL if I die otherwise. But I don't really see why SL is getting votes right now. | ||
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What was this based on btw annul? Otherwise nothing really noteworthy in annul's latest posts. Pretty survival-focused I guess. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote: SL LITERALLY SAID XATALOS ISN'T MAFIA BECAUSE HE HAS DIFFERENT READS WHERE ARE THE DIFFERENT READS????????? NOWHERE THEN HE SAYS IM MAFIA FOR PUSHING HARD READS WHEN HE ALWAYS SAYS THE OPPOSITE mafia mafia mafia mafia Do you think I'm a complete sheep?  | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:23 annul wrote: he has no reason whatsoever to be as ridiculously aggro and trolly as a mafia in a game with so many afk Well I don't really disagree that he leans town. Just thought if it might be TMI to have such a strong read on him. I guess it's not a major point in any case. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:25 Rels wrote: Vote situation: annul could vote Xata or SL. He votes Xata 'cause it's a better defense + he just said rtight now that he scumread Xata more than SL. Then Xata shows up. and annul asks Xata to vote SL and says he would switch: ??? Good observation. Dunno why the heck the thought process would be to vote his more townread over his more scumread there. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:33 annul wrote: no, if he switched i actually would too, because he could always switch onto me anyway once he figured out i was bluffing if i was bluffing. like the math is sound. it is ENTIRELY a self preservation move. i do not want to do this; i would prefer other lynches Isn't it a bit early to go for self-preservation fully like 60min before EOD. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:40 annul wrote: in "without switch" you will have xatalos ultimately move onto me making it 5-5 (his best chance to survive), and then darth will hammer me like he said he wanted to earlier. do not misrepresent the game-state yo I just have the problem with that that you were so focused on preserving yourself 60min before EOD that you thought of possible scenarios, including sacrificing your townreads(..?) ahead of time. When there was still plenty of time to get stuff done. People change their minds. | ||
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Will be interesting to see what votes appear from the woodworks at this stage. | ||
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Hmmm.... | ||
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Probably will be some new votes at EOD too.. | ||
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Anyways I really need to sleep now for the workday. Good night! | ||
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I was so close to claiming Cop several times last EOD, but managed to barely hold it in, because I wanted to use my power at least once. Luckily it paid off big time. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:31 Chezitwo wrote: Sadly it could be more believable if you weren't the designated lynch, Mr. Xatalos. Well, I'm already dead by N2 regardless. I'm content even if disfo gets lynched tomorrow - of course today would be preferable so scum would use a kill on me instead. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote: got any crumbs? why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday? technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case. I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:35 ruXxar wrote: Heres the thing. Lynching you and having you flip as either alignment is going to give us more information than disfo flipping as scum. Does it really? If disfo flips scum (very likely), then I die N2, it seems like the optimal situation info-wise. Even if I'm lying, it'd be apparent soon enough so makes no difference for vote information. In any case it's not too bad even if I do get lynched now I guess. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:42 ruXxar wrote: Xatalos, ignoring your red check, who would you have lynched today? I'm not 100% sure since my reading of filters / even the thread generally has been lackluster this game (unfortunately very busy in real life for a change). Ignoring the use of my check as a tool, I guess I would have looked at ruxxar or rayn again after the lynch. Then I started thinking more about disfo since he had voted me, didn't really do much worthwhile despite the activity and was slipping by unnoticed. So I might have looked at him more too, but he was more of a ??? read so I decided to just check it. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:47 Chezitwo wrote: Can you walk me through your rationale for your check? I guess I already kind of answered that the last post? | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote: Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky. I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:51 disformation wrote: mh actually i dont think a framer would frame me. or a cop would check me over like tw or one of the inactives. Yea I'd think the only realistic option would be that you're a second unaware Miller if you're town. Usually there's 2 of them from what I've seen. The odds are low though, like 10% or less. So I'm content our best bet is to just lynch you. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:53 disformation wrote: nonoonno you always shoot the close counterwagon to scum. you cop check the inactives. hard to read. low volumes. Not really. The lurky players are just a detriment at LYLO anyway, so it's better to kill them off immediately. Whereas somewhat active, but not widely townread players are likely to live until LYLO but it's often hard to tell their alignment so checking is optimal. | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:46 ruXxar wrote: I already made a case for why you can't be the same alignment. Hmm... I don't think that's necessarily true. It's more telling how the votes go very close to EOD, not what people do earlier on. You can always switch if needed (especially if you're not really committed either way), and if things go badly, you just gain cred by being "early". | ||
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On June 17 2017 19:55 Chezitwo wrote: So, are you going to solve the game today? Because you put us in a very inconvenient position. Your claim is very suspicious. Worst comes to worst, disfo is just a free lynch D3. I don't terribly mind that outcome since I'm dying soon no matter what. Considering that, I think I'll have some time today to read the game so I can try to leave a legacy. | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:05 Chezitwo wrote: Yes, but the best case is still far superior. We do not mislynch and scum have to shoot you. You should mind the outcome. That is true I suppose. It's just been an exhausting couple of days. | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:06 disformation wrote: oh. just realized. scum is actually 1v1 me in a sense. hilarious! =D Rather the other way around + Show Spoiler + Maybe a small chance of TvT. Doubt it though. I'll have to look at your filter closer today to make surer. | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:10 ruXxar wrote: I'm thinking that if you had a red check, you wouldn't give up this easily and be so calm about it. You should be kicking and screaming all the way to the gallows. Like, a cop is a HUGE asset to town. You were so close to getting lynched yesterday, yet you made no effort to even change the tide of the votes, know that you could play a critical role in winning this for us. My feeling is that if you were a cop, you would have put in way more effort yesterday to get out of a near lynch situation. I think I played exactly similarly last time I was Cop and the main wagon at D1 end. I thought of claiming there several times too, but hid my cards as much as I possibly could, betting on the chance of an approaching reversal. | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:18 ruXxar wrote: If you are a cop, why didn't you put in a check on the person that was leading the counter wagon? In your situation I would've checked sicklucker. Sicklucker was the lead of a train on annul, as well as being trained on by holy flare. Did you think that all three wagons: Annul, Sicklucker and You were town? That would be quite masterful play by the mafia. Well I didn't really see the case on sl that much. After annul flipped, I didn't consider it to be that impossible all 3 were town. After all there were so many non-voters / random target voters / no specific counter-push to sl, more like it was between me/sl/annul and gradually went to me vs annul. sl will be under pressure anyway in the coming days. disfo had basically slipped by under the radar on the other hand. Btw I think this was the game I was talking about before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:21 disformation wrote: you fail to mention that the guy who was lynched over you happend to be the gf. Can't remember the game so closely anymore. What does that have to do with anything? | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote: Meh, I think I'm going to pack it up and and get me some fresh air. I think todays lynch is pretty much set in stone. It's up to the mafia to try and turn the tides. It is actually surprisingly fine with me. I'm so dead regardless that a small boost to victory odds by tonnes of effort doesn't seem hugely appealing. If that's what we decide, then so be it. That being said, I'm in the unique position of knowing that disfo is already scum, so I'll most likely look at things and try to solve the scumteam from that perspective later tonight when I have more time again. | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:26 disformation wrote: trying to figure out like your "i did that as cop b4" is as good as annul's reputation I don't follow. | ||
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On June 17 2017 20:31 ruXxar wrote: Please do. I'm open to considering other options if you bring something convincing to the table. We will see if I find something worthwhile. | ||
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Not exactly sure from where. I think he's been playing for like 10 years or something though? So I thought he would be better than that as town. | ||
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But now I'm really gone.... | ||
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On June 18 2017 20:23 disformation wrote: well. fefe and hf. but basically that are his reads. he made sure to not give us anything today. I did give you guys one scum on a silver platter, but nobody wanted to take it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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On June 18 2017 23:01 sicklucker wrote: xata town mvp See? I'm such a good townie that even as scum, I manage to be town MVP. | ||
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On June 19 2017 00:45 Vivax wrote: If Xatalos is a cop posting baby seals im gonna go to finland and flip some tables + Show Spoiler + It's time for a new era of blue meta! | ||
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On June 19 2017 02:25 disformation wrote: hey i was donald j. trump in a themed game. made murica great again and was like town mvp then scum!mvp koshi shot me in the face in broad daylight That's some #Resist alright | ||
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On June 19 2017 04:03 ruXxar wrote: What do you mean that there's nothing interesting about the night kills? I think it's damn interesting following the fact that koshi and HF did not push in the same direction. A HF nk makes sense from SL mafia viewpoint, or maybe more likely, someone trying to frame SL. The koshi NK makes absolute sense. He pushed Xata I'm really surprised that DF survived. He led The xata wagon. So here's how mafia is thinking: Ideally we want to eliminate koshi and DF, but that is too obvious. Town would figure it out right away. Let's instead try to make it look like SL is mafia by killing HF, since HF was pushing SL hard, and SL also was leading the wagon on town annul. Is that about right xata? | ||
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Thanks for the game. Even though things ended unfortunately for me, my flip at least sent town so far in the wrong direction that they never really found their way back | ||
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On July 05 2017 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: What Koshi? How on earth did i play well on D1? :O I probably made like 3 posts as i got fucked by double 18h workdays. I have honestly never ever missed a vote before and i feel kinda cheap for that even though i basically couldnt do anything about it. I just fell asleep instantly when i got home. Luckily it worked out better that way | ||
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