[N] TL Mafia LXXV
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On June 14 2017 01:12 disformation wrote: can you use kp/rb/strpngarm on ppl that are in obs? <3 Holyflare says hello. | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:00 Holyflare wrote: Why aren't we lynching koshi yet? Of course the surmounting body of evidence is still not enough to convince some tough nuts. | ||
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You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting? Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there. First post conf town, goos shit there. Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other?? Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter. Very good post here. | ||
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On June 14 2017 16:45 Koshi wrote: Still nothing wrong with it. I like the post as well. Why would that post be more mafia aligned? My problem was more with ruxxar's appreciation rather than disfo's post. I find it a bit of a mafia trend that they feel the need to do this kind of stuff to blend in. This "I liked this post" just felt fake to me. | ||
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I didn't mean to come off as negative. Your post was filled imo a bit too much if you do not actually mean all you said. Do you actually have a townread on HF from one post? Do you have a scumlean on Koshi? I meant the same pattern as they are both kinda trollish votes this early on with just #vote in one post, even tho xata tried to say something. That just bugged me a little. | ||
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On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote: alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. SLIP we didn't have a night yet so he couldn't have had a check going on! | ||
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On June 14 2017 18:44 disformation wrote: y u no vote koshi then? or try to convince ppl to vote koshi? This is a fair point. Palmar along with FF why is koshi scum and if so why no srs vote? I guess Xata aswell, why is rayn scum bro and why you didn't put your vote in voting thread? | ||
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On June 14 2017 20:23 beentheredonethat wrote: koshi is not scum He's not in the qt? | ||
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On June 14 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote: Choo choooo I think it's relevant that the only post rayn is willing to make after his return that he thought was apt to go out of his way at work to talk about is to pseudo defend koshi's motivations for making that post. Lynch rayn. You guys are lynching rayn cuz of this or am I missing something else? | ||
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Yeah couldn't find much other argument. On June 14 2017 21:31 Koshi wrote: rayn had no business "defending" or "discriminating" or "lessening" HF his push on me. Pick the right word. Also rayn did it without really knowing what HF was talking about or if he understood it, gave bad arguments to counter HF. We expect more and better from rayn so he is under scrutiny. That is a fair point but rayn did defend initially + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what? I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia. On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote: It's not the content as much as the tone and structure. Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern. I'd give that a slight town read. I agree on the tone but from the interactions later on. On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote: This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. This is a bad logic, Vivax will explain you why. | ||
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I like disfo and HF for town right now, they are contributing pretty good. Koshi might be 3p but he is doing pretty good as well, I'm not lyncing him at any rate. | ||
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On June 14 2017 22:16 Koshi wrote: 1) My problem here was that I don't like that he went from being right on me to being wrong and that it was potentially opportunistic mafia. But nha, I am wrong, I now put him as more likely town. | ||
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I will ignore you from now on if you call me out 52 seconds after asking a question. | ||
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On June 14 2017 23:26 darthfoley wrote: How is ruXxar not scummy? Who are you scum reading? He demoted that disfo thing to a tone liking/soft townread which is fine. | ||
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Mainly cuz I want town Palmar to step up if he's town and I don't think anyone is being objectively scummy. rayn being mafia is too high level for me i guess i just can't get my head around it. | ||
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On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote: Town TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious. Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it. Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had. Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town. Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia. Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia. Town with minus points. Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action. Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm Null Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up. haha nice one I thought no one noticed that... | ||
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Grack feels a little wierd. Him defending ruxxar I couldn't understand. On June 15 2017 06:00 Grackaroni wrote: That was the impression I got. The closest I could find was you pressuring him over the read and other people calling him out for too easily believing SL's cop claim. Looking over, the main reason people are scum reading him is over saying that he liked Disfo's post, which was kind of a strange post to like because it had no content. But I don't think this is a bad response at all for the post that he made: I don't think he's mafia. He has a confidence to his posts that I like. I don't think there is a world where Grack misses + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2017 23:32 Vivax wrote: Someone tell me this is just a minor inconsistency? Now lets consider a case where Grack is scumhunting: If Ruxxar is mafia, he probably panicked when I called him out and Vivi caught his inconsistency. He needs buddies defending him with soft stuff like this (Koshi & Grack) If Ruxxar is town, he has few votes on him for a legit point, other accusations based on tr on sl now look very bad. Practically mafia just hopping on the vagon. If grack is picking up on this, wouldn't the logical thing to do is call them out aswell? (I don't even know who are you talking about btw, fefe?) Actually looking he's probably just not trying at this point, just replying to Fefe. But a lazy way to defend Ruxxar noted. | ||
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Rels posted reads which is nice. | ||
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On June 15 2017 07:19 Palmar wrote: I could possibly kill sicklucker. The upside is large as nothing he has said looks townie. The "I'm just trying to trigger ppls lulz" post is kinda bad actually. The downside is small as he's anti-town no matter his alignment late game because he's just not very good at this game. Going after the low hanging fruit is not his usual trend tho. I can prolly just stay on Palmar. | ||
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On June 15 2017 21:59 Skynx wrote: Palmar still lurking, [he reads] Damdred and Vivi town for obv reasons. Going after the low hanging fruit is not his usual trend tho. I can prolly just stay on Palmar. EBWOP. I agree on those reads, they are fairly out there as townies. | ||
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On June 15 2017 16:29 disformation wrote: good morning everyone. @rayn: lemme explain the palmar thing: Palmar never answers the question. Koshis vote reminded me of that. hear hear | ||
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Really? Because he has been involved in every case and accusation so far in the game? He's scumhunting non stop. | ||
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Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread. Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions. Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls. | ||
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On June 15 2017 22:45 darthfoley wrote: This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game. I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads I mean there is gona be disagreements but for now if that 8-10 people work together mafia is gona have a tough time no matter what. So for the sake of argument, Vivax and you having same reads, you're prolly thinking in same pattern and both town ![]() I'm not a fan of killing afk/one posters D1, which i kinda supported when i first started playing. Mainly because if left alive, they feel the pressure and step up D2, either producing well content and joining town or slipping and getting lynched. Meanwhile D1 we actually lynch someone who has gave us some sort of information. All things considered, there is gotta be one mafia in annul/grack/fefe/ruxxar/xata. I'm reading Xata now. | ||
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On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote: My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince. + Show Spoiler + ruxxar: - "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it. - buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible. Skynx: - good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it". Koshi: - didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad. - called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad. - good post on BTBT being bad - a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere - p35. Lock town. disfo: - pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check. - had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around. rayn: - picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good. Vivax: - entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good. - liking the annul's post I liked. Good. BTDT: - called Koshi town for no reason - turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi - townie posts though (p 21) annul: - calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good DF: - also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI. - nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic. Damdred: - weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite. - though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie. FF: - liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it. Eversince: - answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post. Grack: - weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good. Xata: - good post on ruxxar. rayn: - LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town. This mainly, disagree with some of the reads here but decided to give him a pass. Might be a rash decision but when i gather thoughts on others i might update the list. | ||
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He seems to be pretty mixed up in the whole me calling out ruxxar and followup from there thing, eventually voting ruxxar deeming there is enough stuff on him. + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2017 03:44 Xatalos wrote: Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar: 1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation. 2) This post... ...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would). 3) Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever? - - - All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar. What's not fine is that he's not revealing ANYTHING at all. I mean there are absolutely no reads other than ruxxar. He has a 3 page filter but not a list, one scumread, no townreads. Lets say he lasts a few days and D3 we analyze him, his D1 will look like he did nothing while being around all the time and having a 3 page filter. This is kinda worse than Palmar. On June 15 2017 03:12 Xatalos wrote: Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary. For example here you can see him pretending to be interested but instead of "hey x why do you think Koshi is mafia?" we get the bolded, and no follow up. Filter is pretty much just thoughts like this. On June 15 2017 03:34 Xatalos wrote: For rayn, it's mostly just that he's been very lackluster/passive so far. The worst thing that stood out to me was how he just talked about "Koshi not being mafia" though everybody was speculating about Koshi being 3P at that point. It's like he didn't even read what people said about Koshi and made his conclusion anyway. He's following the game, but no thoughts on the situation. If you're kinda null, just tell. If you think rayn is town at least say so, don't have to defend him maybe but it will prompt people to ask you questions and so on. He is playing a pretty risk-free game. Props to DF for spotting him earlier on, very lynchable. | ||
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On June 15 2017 23:46 Holyflare wrote: I honestly have no idea how I'm town read by 90% of the game tbfh. Calling you town is a stretch I'll admit but you're here and doing work, in your own way. All the conversation you spark up might lead to something maybe who knows. | ||
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On June 16 2017 00:02 Holyflare wrote: If it's a stretch why am I in your town circle though? Koshi is weird to you and he isn't but now calling me town is a stretch, so I should be similar to a Koshi read, but I'm in your town circle? You're right he actually should be there. Thing is, you play like this all the time. Koshi is an absolute town leader when he is motivated and town. He rolled mafia like 4 times where he played totally different to how he normally plays, so his mafia play is out there, while writing that list i was thinking like "ok lets put him null for now and identify him tomorrow or something". | ||
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On June 16 2017 00:03 Holyflare wrote: Also where is Eversince interested in the game? Who are Eversince's scum reads? Or even town reads for that matter. I got that impression when I was reading through the game. Re-reading him now filter is kinda weak. | ||
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For example yes Eversince seemed good to me but now not so much. Re-reading Rels' list it makes less and less sense to me. That kind of thing. Thats my general way of making lists early on. I find it way better then having no list out there and no structure of play. This way one by one I can re-read people, update my thoughts and town can see how they progress and reach a conclusion on me and on my reads. | ||
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On June 16 2017 01:12 Fecalfeast wrote: Skynx why do you say you don't like TW but he doesn't make your 'probably 1 mafia in here' lynch pool? The HF vivax thing I think feels town v HF. Vivax didn't back down and while neither did HF I have literally seen HF write a legal document while scum to make a point. At least i think he was scum. My boss has seen me on mymphone now so i will be sparsely checking for a bit. TW is another one of those im more comfortable reading, along with Koshi. I didn't get a scum vibe from him earlier on and i feel like i can figure him out later on. | ||
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On June 16 2017 03:24 Skynx wrote: TW is another one of those im more comfortable reading, along with Koshi. I didn't get a scum vibe from him earlier on and i feel like i can figure him out later on. Altho i gotta agree his list is bad but he posted it after my list. Rels' list is pretty bad aswell, i gotta update this list at one point. | ||
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On June 16 2017 03:21 disformation wrote: bah too many ppl in this game. still lukewarm on koshi. keeping my vote for now so he comes back to post. what do you guys think about xatas big post? like if he wouldnt have said "So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall." right at the end it would be actually difficult to figure out what his conclusions are. though i dont mind the reads. do you guys think that is a post that looks more like his town meta? I made a case on him and he ignored me and took off. Not sure what to make of it. | ||
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On June 16 2017 04:22 sicklucker wrote: how am I fishy. I acualy think all 3 of us are town this is solid. espically me and ff should be town read here You didn't do a thing today. Fefe literally voted saying YOLO. | ||
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On June 16 2017 04:29 Fecalfeast wrote: I said yolo to the fact that my early scumread is voting the same person as me I've articulated why i dislike annul skynx. I don't know what you're trying to say here. Your Ruxxar sr was based on him having sl as top town. Now you townread both of them and voting on annul together while your only two cents on annul is: [QUOTE]On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote: Scumlist: Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum. ... /QUOTE] While you say [QUOTE]On June 16 2017 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote: I know xata is a name being thrown around as scummy but i admit i haven't even checked his filter 😎[/QUOTE] | ||
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On June 16 2017 04:36 Skynx wrote: I don't know what you're trying to say here. Your Ruxxar sr was based on him having sl as top town. Now you townread both of them and voting on annul together while your only two cents on annul is: While you say format | ||
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[QUOTE]On June 16 2017 04:36 Skynx wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2017 04:29 Fecalfeast wrote: I said yolo to the fact that my early scumread is voting the same person as me I've articulated why i dislike annul skynx. [/QUOTE] I don't know what you're trying to say here. Your Ruxxar sr was based on him having sl as top town. Now you townread both of them and voting on annul together while your only two cents on annul is: [QUOTE]On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote: Scumlist: Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum. ... /QUOTE] While you say [QUOTE]On June 16 2017 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote: I know xata is a name being thrown around as scummy but i admit i haven't even checked his filter 😎[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] Why do you say my ruxxar scumread was based on him townreading sicklucker when that is not the case? I also said that I actually like ruxxars latest posts but would prefer to not be wrong. I believe you and grack now have misrepresented my read on ruxxar what gives? Also what does my post about xata have to do with ruxx or annul?[/QUOTE] I misunderstood you on ruxxar now i read a little further back. As he is the other major wagon, it would be nice for you guys to have an opinion on Xata. How i feel is you say you said yolo just building up on what you previously said about annul but i found that to be not much. Xata's filter is very similar so i'm just curious you vote one without considering the other. | ||
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On June 16 2017 04:48 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't think it matters yet, he wont be lynched here. I just want to bring some attention to his filter, especially his horrid beginning of day one. Feel free to cross reference his games as I did The irony. | ||
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On June 16 2017 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean.... this is the worst read in the game. Literally. Skynx can actually be mafia more than disformation for this read. I'm pretty sure that is not the worst read in the game. Disfo is the townest town, im not gona quote posts or teach mafia 101 to anyone here. Damdred came active between 20-30 i think where posted a list which i liked and worked along with Vivax to push Ruxxar. | ||
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Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet. Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town. My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me. VA can go suck a dick. rayn is a mystery I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train. Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred | ||
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On June 17 2017 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate. Until page 50, how is he the towniest town of all towns with no reads at all? A songbird told me so. | ||
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On June 17 2017 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: It is good you start with lynching Grcak but your dick waving list doesnt even include him. Well done sir. ??? He's literally on third line from top??? | ||
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On June 17 2017 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: what am i missing? is grack a scumread or not? if not, why do you write the red? If yes, why bolded part (last line) does not have grack? Bolded for you above, that list is just what my heart tells me. | ||
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On June 17 2017 02:05 Koshi wrote: 2)Holyflare 7)Tumblewood 10)beentheredonethat 12)Xatalos 13)AMG 14)marvellosity 15)Grackaroni 22)Eversince All mafia. Can we work together when im back? Since we have the same list... | ||
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On June 17 2017 01:41 Eversince wrote: Not that that's something he has to worry about right now anyway right? Out of claims I think HF/Skynx have both claimed to have a gun. So Xata/me are the top picks as far as I can tell. Although HF says he'll drop his on Koshi last I remember and Skinx was to somebody I forgot. ????? | ||
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On June 17 2017 02:30 disformation wrote: "hey disfo you so town imma shoot you in the face tonight?" =D XD | ||
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On June 17 2017 03:15 Fecalfeast wrote: We have to kill xata and sl ( and ruxxar) first anyway Why sl and ruxxar but not you? | ||
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On June 17 2017 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx has no real scumreads btw. Sshhhh go back to da turkish bath | ||
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btdt is a walking time bomb i dunno whats his gameplan. Now kills are interesting, i was kinda sure HF was the mafia on xata train but now that both him and Koshi are dead maybe disfo makes sense. They were quite keen on disfo switching votes all of a sudden just sheeping the two cases. I'm also vt so if that helps deciding on disfo. Redcheck just might be a bait, very few were suspecting disfo on eod. Other impression is Palmar being this uninterested in the game as either alignment just doesn't check out, pretty sure he's the 3P. Kinda need to narrow down possible mafia list tonight, so many people with shitty reasonings voted annul. I'm also on airport wifi and super hangover, evening i'll pick up the game. | ||
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One last could be any of VA/btdt/TW. I guess, game is hard. | ||
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On June 18 2017 18:18 Vivax wrote: If Xata flips indeed scum. I'm believing it's really simple and this is mafia. That doesn't makes sense, then why they are sabing Xata for no reason? | ||
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[QUOTE]On June 18 2017 18:19 Skynx wrote: [QUOTE]On June 18 2017 18:18 Vivax wrote: If Xata flips indeed scum. [QUOTE]On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote: Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar , Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince [b] Thats my point, Xata=scum he's always gona be primary target after other leading train gets lynched. Having an additional mafia N1 doesnt change their kp or anything so as a team strategy i don't thing all 4 would vote on counterwagon D1. | ||
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On June 18 2017 18:22 Vivax wrote: For no reason? Excuse me? Did you look at today's votes? EBWOP Thats my point, Xata=scum he's always gona be primary target after other leading train gets lynched. Having an additional mafia N1 doesnt change their kp or anything so as a team strategy i don't thing all 4 would vote on counterwagon D1. Please dont use other one | ||
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On June 18 2017 18:29 Vivax wrote: Who's (not) mafia on the wagon? Cause you're not telling me no one was on annul. My guess is 3 with the way it seems to me. See my prev post it kinda explains my thought process. | ||
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On June 18 2017 18:54 Xatalos wrote: + Show Spoiler + Lol ok | ||
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On June 19 2017 03:36 Grackaroni wrote: Where've you been PALMAR? Scummy scum scum. Where've you been? | ||
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On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote: I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul On June 16 2017 03:11 sicklucker wrote: ##vote annul i agree nice ninja ff you get a cheap townread. I just voted him after reading his filter Got one boys and im super trendy because no one voted him yet so bonus points On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote: Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL. EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote: Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote: This is going to make me look like garbage. I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL. I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point. Don't know where to begin... | ||
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From a town point, if you're clueless, making the train 6-6 shouldn't really bother you but if you're scum you're literally offering your RB on a silver platter. | ||
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On June 20 2017 07:39 Rels wrote: rayn / ruxxar / SL / Chezitwo / Skynx ? That could make some sense Where are these lists coming from?? | ||
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On June 20 2017 08:26 Rels wrote: getting tired so I will stop reading filters. I think Grack is town for the post I quoted earlier + that post where he called out the overall sentiement that scum had to be in annul's wagon. I thought the same thing reading those last pages. ##Vote raynpelikoneet Get smart or die. I might be blind but I can't find any Grack quotes in your filter before this post. | ||
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On June 20 2017 21:23 Rels wrote: SL / BH rayn / ruxxar / Skynx Palmar / Chezitwo / VA ES / FF / Tumble / Grack BTDT / disfo That makes me feel good. This makes sense. So there are 5 scumreads here, lets see the reasonings behind them. On June 20 2017 21:20 Rels wrote: OK I'm done with my free time. Let's get a wagon starting on sicklucker. ##Vote sicklucker On June 20 2017 20:54 Rels wrote: sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter. And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect. + it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did: + after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon". I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious. Meta read is irrelevant here, sl is just a troll he can do anything in D1 and wouldn't prolly be ai. Second point is very ironic yeah i dunno whats your point here? If you're scumreading sl for that doesn't that makes you scum aswell??? You became everyone's main target because your filter was bad until today started basically. I can kinda see why he tr you earlier with your early list and everything. Are you just bussing sl?? On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote: BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere Pretty much all about BH to make him his equally hardest scumread. On June 20 2017 21:16 Rels wrote: Don't like the bolded though. An easy list to make the seems good but does nothing. And this looks like he started fabricating a vote analyze but didn't know how to do it. There is nothing there. Like the bolded above, he points that every reasonning is bad and he wants to lynch every player. No game solving there. Not trying to push game forward and all. I didn't understand anything from rayn interaction, I assume they are disagreeing on reads? Ruxxar pretty much the same I don't get the sr but apparently you sr him from very early on, why not vote him when he had bunch of people on him?? There is a general lack of structure in these scumreads, he reads the game thats for sure but he just quotes posts and makes up bunch of reasons out of nowhere. Lets look at the townreads, I actually found the one about Grack On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote: but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely This is just laughable, Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game along with ES and gets the easiest tr based on something so superficial. On June 20 2017 20:27 Rels wrote: looooool never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him. Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum. More easy tr's, did you even read rest of btdt filter? He's not making 1 bit of sense since start of the game and above post can be very easily fabricated by mafia. I don't even think I'd come up with this one if i was really trying hard to tr btdt. Concluding point: On June 20 2017 21:00 Rels wrote: Actually I just did. this is kinda townie Nothing else stands out of to me as town or scum. The activity is bad ofc though. I want him to play more. Mind you he makes a similar post about me but I'm still scum and TW is town???? On June 20 2017 21:08 Rels wrote: this is kinda townie. Weird thing to say to a town leader that is obviously not getting lynched Like wtf? He just finds reasons in his universe that makes someone town or scum but apparently they don't apply to everyone in same value. It is most clearly seen in sl and simple tr on me and tw. I just can't follow any of his reads, sorry. ##Vote: Rels | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:13 Rels wrote: Didn't you just say you were OK voting SL to save you and annul On June 16 2017 07:16 Rels wrote: and WTF annul if you're scumreading SL way more than Xata why did you vote Xata instead of SL ? When voting SL then: would have put SL over you ? but somehow ends up on annul but no more opinion on Xata... | ||
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Him not dying after N2 is just madness. Framing redcheck on him by fellow mafia for pure WIFOM. Now that there is only me and him on original Xata train, he accuses me for being mafia whereas his main reason for voting Xata is sheeping my case and he has absolutely no idea on Xata otherwise. On June 16 2017 03:41 disformation wrote: you are a pretty big question mark. skynx and df are big town reads. skynx had a good post on xata On June 16 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote: Disformation voting Xatalos when annul is moving up the lynchlist. Interesting? On June 16 2017 03:43 Koshi wrote: @disformation Where do you have anything on Xatalos in your filter? On June 16 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote: Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts? | ||
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On June 21 2017 03:45 disformation wrote: so. are you the obv scum tryint to set me up for a misslynch down the line cause you guys dont ahve the balls to shoot me since i was softing vet a lot and you lost your rb? also nice omgus I dunno what you're trying to accomplish, if I ever die lynch or nk, they have to auto-lynch you anyway? What do you even have against my argument? You had no Xata read and just voted him for credit. | ||
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On June 21 2017 03:46 disformation wrote: uhm? i have a case on him and am voting him? ??? Yeah i misconstructed that apparently, Everyone that has been nk'd were sr'ing sl. | ||
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On June 21 2017 03:48 Chezitwo wrote: Is it just me or is this last line really out of place? And if Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game how come you aren't on board with killing him? This is also a really bad post. There is literally nothing insane about disformation surviving the night. Grack will die dw, Rels is looking worse to me right now since he's revealed a bit more by being more active through this day. There is a chance Grack is just town who doesn't give two shits about this game but reading through Rels I'm sure I found mafia. Nice ridicule, you apparently ignored his actions on EOD and why he vote. Any thoughts on that? Any thoughts on Rels? You practically ignored everything i said... | ||
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On June 21 2017 03:57 disformation wrote: @skynx: your scumread is based on me voting scum and and a bunch of wifom. you ignoring 90% of my game to case me makes me pretty sure you are scum. You are scumreading they guy who's case you trusted on D1 when you had no opinion at all. | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:00 disformation wrote: i wish i could vote/lynch like half the day right now What is this implying otherwise? | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:05 disformation wrote: why does that list havent got sl? did you read my fucking case on sl? Forgot about him I guess, i could also stick VA and Palmar in there awell. No i haven't, your filter is big. I'll check it out. | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:06 disformation wrote: you just complained that everyone scumreading sl is dead. what was the purpose of that post when you didnt even read my case on sl? SL is prolly mafia thats the fucking point... | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:08 disformation wrote: "oh ill scum read you absed on 5% of your game and didnt read your filter" You're scumreading me for the exact same reason? Cuz there HAS to be a scum on Xata train?? You keep saying you have to read Skynx guess what you didn't read me either but you're so eager to jump on me now. Like why are you even scumreading me for then??? | ||
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On June 21 2017 02:03 disformation wrote: never explains this scumread. despite me asking. + Show Spoiler + On June 16 2017 04:29 disformation wrote: can you explain your annul scumread plx? prefered like I was a braindead 3 yr old gets called out for that: so sl is for whatever reason super convinced that annul is scum. pushes annul super hard. never explains why. has an incredible weak and faulty tr on xata. admits that a annul post looks slightly towny. doesnt reevaluate or anything. after flip: after n1: This is your case? Essentially you say SL vote on annul was unjustified and bad, halle fucking lujah.. | ||
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On June 19 2017 08:24 VayneAuthority wrote: starts day tunneling a ruxxar lynch that never happens, xatalos is also on this train. switches purely to save xatalos at this point, zero explanation. vague post later about his filter, no reason to read it they are on the same team still tunneling ruxxar even though it makes little sense at this point, with token low hanging fruits added nonexistant day 2, majority of his filter is day 1 I would be surprised if he wasnt scum honestly VA you're also a massive hypocrite. This is your only scumhunting post in the game and what you're accusing Fefe for here I've already done it around EOD where you were voting me. | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:24 Eversince wrote: He also pushed super hard for that "unjust and bad" lynch off of Xata and onto Annul. He also claimed at one point to be trying to "save" Xata. So ontop of ignoring the "townier" post Annul was apparently doing closer to deadline, not having any good reason to tr Xata. Xata's unconventional reads didn't actually exist. So actually no real reason to have the tr on him? But don't re-evaluate or anything. Better to ignore that and push your lynch instead of investigating why the other wagon was even pushed. I don't want to come off as toxic but you're in no position to push off the bolded against me while being one of the two deciding voters against a t v s wagon while admitting having no idea about the game at that point. | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:31 Eversince wrote: That entire paragraph was more of an iteration what SL did D1 vote. Nothing about your current tunnel. I think your case is trash, but I've made explicitly clear on what I think Disfo's chances of flipping mafia are. I dunno what all this sl stuff is about. I'm not tr'ing sl or anything, I was pressuring him EOD along with fefe and got scumread for it. My point is you don't really need a case against sl, everyone is sr'ing him pretty much so I don't get why disfo try to come up with that against me. | ||
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I'm lynching Rels today. Grack and SL i can also lynch. Disfo is also mafia. There is also like 5 other people with 2-3 page filters and terrible D1, I can lynch them also. I actually have no idea who is town this game. | ||
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On June 21 2017 04:40 Eversince wrote: That's a complete 180 from: On June 21 2017 03:48 Skynx wrote: Yeah i misconstructed that apparently, Everyone that has been nk'd were sr'ing sl. | ||
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On June 16 2017 04:43 VayneAuthority wrote: after doing a little research on the side ill be voting for skynx today First readable post after a bunch of gibberish all along D1. Same shit as sl, wants to be ignored D1 and doesn't contribute. On June 16 2017 04:48 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't think it matters yet, he wont be lynched here. I just want to bring some attention to his filter, especially his horrid beginning of day one. Feel free to cross reference his games as I did Perfectly distances himself away from any of the trains as he doesn't want to give anything away. Then bunch of mechanics/trolling/irrelevant stuff, never any attempt to push the game forward. On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote: tier 1 bad day 1 voting fecalfeast tier 2 rels, grackaroni tier 3 eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least. This is interesting, why fefe in particular singled out? He's at the same boat with sl at this point and ruxxar voting to save himself. For the rest, rels, grack and es all had little to no reason to vote annul, yet they are on different tiers. Lastly Vivax also singled out but nothing about btdt/tw?? All this while he votes for someone he doesn't explain why he's scum????? This post is a total nonesense. See next two posts together; On June 19 2017 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote: skynx actually comes out of this looking surprisingly good, he was 2nd/3rd vote on xatalos which is when a wagon really starts. either a well timed bus or hes just town. Getting a cop check on him would mean annul wagon could be 100% clean though, hes really the only sketchy one there On June 19 2017 08:24 VayneAuthority wrote: starts day tunneling a ruxxar lynch that never happens, xatalos is also on this train. switches purely to save xatalos at this point, zero explanation. vague post later about his filter, no reason to read it they are on the same team still tunneling ruxxar even though it makes little sense at this point, with token low hanging fruits added nonexistant day 2, majority of his filter is day 1 I would be surprised if he wasnt scum honestly See bolded, one post he implies im town, other he implies im scum???? Posts are just after eachother aswell. Then bunch more irrelevant stuff. Find me one towny post he makes plz. | ||
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On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote: i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking: rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order) are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1 preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks this is the worst list in the history of TL mafia. Whats behind all these? only Vivax has been explained and he labelled that a 'lazy read'. On June 18 2017 03:13 Tumblewood wrote: notes after reading like 10 pages: i like ever's case on pg 101. so df and rux are 98% town ruxxar continues to be weird and inane - fundamentally not getting the power dynamic. [ACTUALLY his later stuff is solid vote analysis] i like that one rels post on pg 106 sl is insane town. egotistic in an sl sort of way now likes es and sl... wtf?? TW's townpile: rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt, df, sl, es That is 5 ppl on annul wagon there. He is also tr'ing annul at the same time... And thats it. Thats all the content he has to offer. | ||
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Alright I'm giving up this game. gg end plz scum, bye. | ||
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On June 21 2017 19:15 beentheredonethat wrote: We should definitely lynch between Skynx/Grack today I think. Where is your vote tough guy? If you actually believe a word you said? | ||
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On June 21 2017 19:29 beentheredonethat wrote: And why are you not voting Grack, Skynx? If you're town AND you're fine with lynching him, why not join the wagon? Cuz im scumreading everyone | ||
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On June 21 2017 19:57 disformation wrote: uh. actually close wagons. interesting. yo @skynx: you said you scumread everyone. why do you scumread fefe and ruxxar? I'm triggered bro | ||
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disfo, Rels, Ruxxar, rayn chez VA, fefe null, off chance one mafia here Palmar 3P last one prolly ES/TW I'll freestyle from now on. | ||
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On June 22 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote: Consider a serious defense please. 1) Why didn't you push disfo? 2) Why vote sicklucker over Rels? 3) Why vote sicklucker when you're okay with Grack as well and Grack is the clear wagon here? 4) Why pretend you don't understand that I scumread you when we already engaged D3 on such points? 5) Why put out a lazy-ass case on VA, then completely ignore VA? 6) Why are you okay with Grack being lynched when there's noone against it AND Grack is scumreading the guy you cased (VA)? Of course those are very hard to understand points when you're scum, I wouldn't want to have all those points raised against me, too. Hahaha i would actually make you look so bad right now but apparently you missed the point where i said im no longer explaining myself. SL is mafia, we're lynching him next. After him we prolly lynch you. If i die at any point i can happily blame town if they don't lynch you two. Fact: I 100% voted mafia so far (except for that rage vote on myself) and you are yet to vote for a mafia. | ||
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On June 22 2017 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean first of all i don't understand why Skynx would even martyr. He is voting for sicklucker who at the time has a decent chance of being lynched. btdt is the only guy who thinks Skynx is a realistic lynch on D3. So what, he gets mad and switches his vote off his scumread and martyrs? Doesn't sound like a reasonable approach to me. Screams fake in fact. I'm fake pls lynch | ||
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On June 22 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote: That's as good as posting baby seals tbh Fidel was less opportunistic | ||
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On June 22 2017 21:07 beentheredonethat wrote: Except I'm not opportunistic. I scumread you since last cycle, I have stated my reasons, and you refuse to defend yourself and, way more important, you refuse to actually play the game. Yeah i tried, decided its not worth the effort to justify stuff i find scum nonetheless. | ||
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On June 23 2017 02:01 Fecalfeast wrote: I was planning on shooting ruxxar but i could shoot you skynx. :O You wanna kill town? | ||
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Dunno if i wanna lynch Palmar/TW before him polly not. | ||
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4 mafia and 1 3P in Palmar, TW, ES, btdt, BH sounds about right. If it comes to confirm btdt by flipping me we still have 1 more ml so happy days ![]() I might actually step it up if I'm bothered but I just feel like i hate everyone when i actually put in some effort and people get on me like 'whats the point of this?'. | ||
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He just fits the mafia agenda I noticed on him since the start. He gives me the feeling that he's never about scumhunting. Cases he produced in D1 and last night can only be named 'cases' cuz he's misleading everything that can be read from the quotes. He's like CNN basically, just alternates facts trying so hard to scumread someone. He posts walls of texts so it looks like he knows what he's talking about i guess. | ||
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On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote: Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads. FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway. Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town. But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2. SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town. I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in. Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone. I'm pretty sure tracker cannot check same guy on consecutive nights otherwise it would be pretty op. | ||
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On June 24 2017 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote: If Tumble flips read I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happened last night :D haha you mad? ![]() | ||
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On June 25 2017 03:02 disformation wrote: skynx could you explain that in a bit more detail? and why did rels get to be town again: Rels was a bit of a rollercoaster for me: I tr him for his earlier list then he takes a big absence and i realise list was shit so sr then he steps it up by giving out bunch of reads and really trying to push the game forward (i think the quote is from that period?) then i sr him again (see the case) then i put him town again after my rage cuz i kinda now think he's town. | ||
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On June 25 2017 05:35 ruXxar wrote: If you want to assume that all on annul are green, we are left with these people: Skynx, and disfo on mafia. Palmar on town tw on ?? vayne vayne is town so that leaves tw, skynx, disfo and palmar. BH, rayn and Marv(you) didn't vote. If we also assume the people the people voting on xata are town. that leaves tw, palmar, bh, rayn and you. We assume that you and tw are different alignment and that tw is the scum. That leaves tw, palmar, rayn and bh to be the exact scum team. Btdt? | ||
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On June 25 2017 19:55 Chezitwo wrote: Just in case this wasn't obvious yet: TO OUR POTENTIAL PROTECTIVE ROLE: You do not WIFOM tonight. You save Eversince without a doubt. Do not try to be a hero. Save the investigative role. If I die that is fine, if VA dies that is good. This. Shoutout to Vivax. | ||
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On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote: hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh For the eaier: I think rayn is town. I think at least one of Rux/fefe/Rels is mafia. Forgot fefe in my last post, still no reason to townread him since sl's breadcrumv check we thought on him is invalid. I agree on me/btdt. Why do you think Palmar/bh cant be mafia together? | ||
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On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote: Observations: 1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon 2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand 3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon) 4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo 5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast) re: 1) Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have. My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here. Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time) Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3) Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn I hope I didn't forget anyone. re: 2) These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that: Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn So without further ado, they come into the scum pool. re: 3) Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in. Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority re: 4) Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum. Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid. re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird. [bolded]You know what btdt is town, All of the previous day he associated me with Grack, actually believing Grack is mafia and obv ready to lynch me after Grack flips scum. If he's scum he obv knows Grack's gona flip town so this doesn't make sense from his pow. Ofc this is fakeable but just fits more to tunneled bad town imo. Imagine i switched to grack, he's still gona sr me. He's just tunneled for whatever reason and doesn't want to drop his shitty read on me and look bad so comes up with bunch of shade throwing. I'm gona ignore him for now cuz he's irritating. | ||
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Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. In fact at least 1 scum would prolly pop in and comment on stuff without committing so clearing people this way is not the best idea, especially the first hours of the day where people are discussing mechanics. | ||
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I'm gona have to filter dive people at some point. Hope Palmar is mafia and not 3P otherwise im pretty lost since now i tr btdt. Ruxxar is still very town so fefe/rels as scum on annul makes sense but now 3 votes piled up on rels all of a sudden when previously most ppl whos not rayn was tring him. I like rayn but not yet convinced on rels. You being alive this late in the game is also not a good sign disfo. | ||
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You've been the town pillar since D1, i expect them to shoot you at some point but they haven't so. | ||
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VA mentioned earlier that N1 kills points towards an elder member of tl mafia being scum, with which i agree and in that case they surely wouldn't not shoot you. | ||
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Palmar is scum with BH: BH trying to save scumbro, needs 2 more votes. Highly unlikely and super duper risky either way if all scum sits on one train, they would prolly just bus. Palmar is town, BH is scum: Showing town tendancy ahead of mislynch? Not sure if he's under serious threat to do that kind of play, if he just flew under the radar i think would be much better from his pow if palmar flips town. BH is town: Baiting i guess??? Regardless of Palmars alignment scum could follow here, since getting off the train if scumbuddy is getting lynched wont hurt them and vice versa. Really if he's baiting it just doesn't makes sense as any follower is pretty much nai. BH making that play as town is highly unlikely to me. | ||
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On June 28 2017 07:47 Blazinghand wrote: ##unvote ##vote Rels I'm not moving this vote any more. What the fuck? | ||
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This is never town. Mission accomplished BH you can come back. | ||
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Never voting anything other than btdt/Rels tomorrow, sorry BH. | ||
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On June 28 2017 16:13 ruXxar wrote: Btdt, explain something to me. You think that skynx is scum. Skynx is voting for palmar. You are voting for palmar. You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum. Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum. You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx. How does that make any sense? Plot twist: btdt was Carmine Lupetazzi | ||
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On June 28 2017 17:03 beentheredonethat wrote: My whole stance back then was Skynx and Palmar being a team, mainly because both were pushing me and denying me being obvious town. So when I realized "dude, I got the hammer", I hammered Rels, because Skynx was super happy with voting Palmar. I expected Skynx to INSTANTLY retract his super weird town thing he had on me and he did, so I was super fine switching back to Palmar. I thought Skynx is bussing and Palmar is confirmed scum at this point. Had I switched to Rels, I would have gained 0 informaton about Skynx/Palmar - and a Palmar red flip would've confirmed Skynx as super redredred. Game isn't as easy as I thought, it's probably Skynx and Rels plus x. So you scumreading me for not townreading you cuz you're obvious town. Then you bait me by shennanying off your top scumread. And when i sr you again for your incredibly town maneuver, you sr me back??? | ||
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On June 28 2017 17:50 beentheredonethat wrote: One. One reason why I'm scum Skynx. Give me ONE reason that does not fall apart as soon as people look at it :D You cannot give one because you don't have one. Keep up the videos, scum. I'll try, here is one: On June 28 2017 17:04 beentheredonethat wrote: I think it's time you stop throwing accusations around and instead start playing the game. You're being toxic, uncontributive and overall you're lacking arguments. Ohhh wait you're scum :D you'll never do these things And be my guest: | ||
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On June 28 2017 17:57 beentheredonethat wrote: But you do realize that you fulfill that very bolded sentence by bolding that sentence and adding nothing to it? Not really. Implication is that you're acting like everything you claim me to be in bolded. | ||
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None of your yesterday actions are town, including you not voting Palmar or me for 1.5 daylengths long when you already 100% believe we're both scum since start of the day. My reaction to your switch is town. You are shennanying off your top scumread. In addition I am scumreading Palmar 100%, if i dont sr you for saving a scum, wtf i even do? You scumreading me for it is not town. It just doesn't makes sense. Thats why half of the game went wtf over it and you gona have a hard time convincing anyone. | ||
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On June 28 2017 18:06 beentheredonethat wrote: Me not voting Palmar would only make sense if Palmar is my scum buddy but d'oh he wasn't "You are shennanying off your top scumread" - no I'm not. I toyed with you, baited your reaction, then hammered Palmar - who is only my second top scumread because you are my top scum read. You are scumreading Palmar 100% but you're perfectly fine with your other scumread to vote Palmar and this doesn't give you a bad feeling at all? Of course I am scumreading you here. And "half of the game went wtf over it" is once more a representation. it's you and disfo. and everyone else has either not played yet or is lurking and super happy about what is happening here. So many lies in so few sentences you're scum. this game is super ez. Why wouldn't i be ok with my scumread bussing? Add rayn, Ruxxar, BH and fefe to that list and you're there. | ||
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On June 28 2017 18:20 Rels wrote: Skynx is not scum. disfo is not scum. rayn is not scum. FF is probably not scum. BH is scum. This is where I'm restarting from. No opinion on btdt? Really? | ||
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I cased scum D1, literally created the train along with DF. TW was in my scumpool since D1. Your stuff on me always being middle pack in votes doesn't makes sense & doesn't make me scum. When Grack vs sl happened, you stuff on me saying I never tried to push for sl lynch against grack doesn't make me scum. I scumread both. I called out sl eod1, grack later. I am town. I tried to case other people best I could, then someone tells me 'whats the point of you doing this?' then i give up this game, thats human reaction to time you spend not being appreciated. That is your only valid argument against me that 'I'm not even playing'. Go ahead try to lynch me for that. That really makes me scum. You on the other hand On June 29 2017 18:31 beentheredonethat wrote: The only (!!!!!) thing Skynx has "contributed" to the game is "oh, btdt is scum". This is his only participation in the game. And he ONLY COMES IN to say that, drop some snarky comments (or post youtube videos), then he leaves again. So my bait is "ok, I will switch to Rels, because the story Skynx' is painting is that btdt is scum ALTHOUGH he's voting Palmar (plot twist: while saying that I'm scum because I'm voting Palmar and not him, same applies to him voting palmar over me ffs). So as soon as I switch to Rels, Skynx will jump on me because that's what he's painting." Skynx doesn't care and never cared about Palmar. He was super fine with the lynch and the reasons he gave for lynching Palmar were either poor OR nonexistant because all Skyx did was hedging about me being scum. Everyone following SKYNX is either a super dumbass or scum, that's like the whole black/white vote there is. I never said the bolded. You are scum because you have never scumhunted, you are toxic, you mislead stuff (like here). On June 28 2017 18:03 Skynx wrote: Btdt lets be honest here. None of your yesterday actions are town, including you not voting Palmar or me for 1.5 daylengths long when you already 100% believe we're both scum since start of the day. My reaction to your switch is town. You are shennanying off your top scumread. In addition I am scumreading Palmar 100%, if i dont sr you for saving a scum, wtf i even do? You scumreading me for it is not town. It just doesn't makes sense. Thats why half of the game went wtf over it and you gona have a hard time convincing anyone. That is what i said, you didn't vote anyone for 36 hours while being apparently convinced that we're 100% scum. This doesn't makes sense. Scumreading me for scumreading you for you did what you did doesn't makes sense. You are scum. This I'm quitting stuff also isn't convincing. When nearly everyone (not just me & disfo) (another misleading) scumreads you for what you did, they are not insane, you're probably just mafia instead.+ Show Spoiler + On June 28 2017 13:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fuck did i just read? On June 28 2017 16:13 ruXxar wrote: Btdt, explain something to me. You think that skynx is scum. Skynx is voting for palmar. You are voting for palmar. You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum. Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum. You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx. How does that make any sense? On June 28 2017 17:33 disformation wrote: and i can understand skynx revoking his tr on you for this voteswitching stuff. i.e. i can see skynx eod coming from a town pov. yours not. I said nearly everyone, cuz guess who is missing there. Rels being around on EoD just appears to be completely ignored your actions. Hope your last partner is hidden well otherwise you might just aswell concede now. | ||
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Lemme buy you a cup of coffe btdt. | ||
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On July 01 2017 23:03 disformation wrote: rels on btdt: + Show Spoiler + On June 20 2017 20:27 Rels wrote: looooool never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him. Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum. On June 20 2017 21:23 Rels wrote: SL / BH rayn / ruxxar / Skynx Palmar / Chezitwo / VA ES / FF / Tumble / Grack BTDT / disfo That makes me feel good. This makes sense. On June 20 2017 23:01 Rels wrote: don't really remember. I know I was his coach in his first scumgame, and he was pretty ballsy, but this is even stronger than I remember him doing. But look at what I've posted about him and his mindset towards disfo. It makes him town. On June 21 2017 20:04 Rels wrote: disfo and BTDT your fight is annoying. You're both probably town. And it looks like you're not getting lynched today. So if you could stop and be nice it would be awesome. p: yeah I know I might not be the best guy to say that ^^ but it would be good On June 21 2017 20:05 Rels wrote: BTDT join us in that "lets see if SL is really unlynchable" quest. Good reward at the end I promise On June 28 2017 00:53 Rels wrote: Palmar didn't convince me at all. On the contrary. Seems like he jumped on the first opportunity he saw, even bending the reality bit when he said "btdt ended the day as a single random vote on Koshi instead of trying to kill his scumread", because: - after the post he quotes, BTDT had another post where he shows he scumread Koshi some more - BTD wasn't there at EOD, and when he was there Koshi was the main wagon I also have the impression he's buddying me while keeping the option to jump on me. That's twice now he said: "First of all, I still like the fact that he recognizes I'm not mafia, that there is no way I play this way as mafia." Implying, if I start to scumread him, this no longer holds. On June 28 2017 07:54 Rels wrote: well. BH / Palmar are scum for sure. BTDT I don't know On June 28 2017 07:55 Rels wrote: Always lynch Palmar / BH. Very likely BTDT after all On June 28 2017 07:59 Rels wrote: Palmar / BH are 100% scum Dunno what to think of BTDT, very likely town, or scum afraid of bold switch On June 28 2017 18:44 Rels wrote: I'll make posts explaining my thoughts when I have the time IE tonight. The TLDR on Skynx is his continuous investigative tone + how he thinks about the game, trying to find teams that makes sense + attacking disfo when it makes no sense to do that. I have opinion on BTDT. My opinion is that I'm conflicted. More on that tonight hmmm... reads more like wrong town to me. not 100% sure though. Did he ever follow that last quote up? Rels also had no reaction on when btdt switched on and off him and in the followup aswell, I just find that extremely telling where you can't fake an emotion. | ||
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Not having doubts on you, disfo, Ruxxar anymore and VA claim seems legit. Has to be fefe really, I'll try to case him first thing tomorrow. | ||
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On July 02 2017 08:02 disformation wrote: finally. made me work hard for that shot. GG. get em boys. See, some wifom works every now and then ![]() | ||
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On July 02 2017 06:58 disformation wrote: first bunch of quotes: fefe say he might be willing to sheep palmar's case on btdt is also fine with voting rels sheeps me on palmar then gets mad cold feet at eod but does nothing despite being willing to vote rels earlier.. This checks out incredibly with what happened on D1. he's first on ruxxar then swtiches on annul, along with ruxxar admits having no opinion on Xata Claims xata's filter is bad but doesn't makes him scum Xata votes annul, he's now having cold feet voting together with sl, ruxxar, xata, grack does nothing. (I can provide quotes if needed) On svt trains eod, he just seems to follow the same pattern. Obviously this is all true if rels is scum. | ||
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On June 29 2017 03:19 Fecalfeast wrote: Unless my next vca makes it stupid my list is ruxxar rels btdt Then as soon as day starts, he votes Rels without much comment. On June 30 2017 03:55 Fecalfeast wrote: I think you're town but I also don't like your spam or your jumping on me after calling memtown all game Says this and switches on btdt. Its just very inconsistent, why does he call btdt town there while scumreading him in the night?? Nothing in the read progression between two quotes indicate anything towards this, he just ridicules btdt for his actions mainly, indicating further scumread. Also nothing on Rels at all. Yeah very likely last one is fefe. | ||
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On July 03 2017 05:46 Fecalfeast wrote: The way I see it it's probably skynx from an effort put into scumhunting perspective. I'm also wary of this rels lynch solely based on how you and skynx are both setting me up for next day making me think the mafia knows this will be a mislynch and then I am the game winning ezpz mislynch. However I am still scumreadig rels and to switch for paranoias sake seems silly. So probably skynx but I've hardly been scumhunting so take that with a grain of salt | ||
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I was really convinced Rels was scum. Still have legit reasons on fefe combined with suspicions from D1. Altho this is the stage where ppl should just reconsider everyone. Will try to summarize my thoughts today in case i get shot. | ||
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On July 04 2017 23:58 ruXxar wrote: So who are mafia gonna nk. Obvious target is VA, since he's unlynchable. Rayn is the only other possibility. If neither Rayn or VA is nk then something weird is going on. Mafia can just wifom, its impossible to pose scenarios on this and reach a conclusion. We just have to play the game. | ||
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I'll admit I played a very low effort game but i just got triggered. Looking back at lynches, can't really say any of them were avoidable. gg wp | ||
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On July 05 2017 05:38 sicklucker wrote: not really not only was it scum favored but zero mafia voted to save there rb in a 7/8 vote... makes it hard good point. | ||
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