EPTOn June 22 2017 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:
That's what I've been saying for a while.
I don't have any good reads this game.
That's what I've been saying for a while.
I don't have any good reads this game.
Please be mafia.
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On June 22 2017 08:02 Blazinghand wrote: I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SPOKE OUT AGAINST THIS WHY DID NOBODY LISTEN TO ME Sorry man. Should have listened to you. | ||
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On June 22 2017 08:05 Blazinghand wrote: Ok gonna admit I have some egg on my face here since my voting Grack did secure the lynch. but please bear in mind that, we all make mistakes, and just because Grack made a huge mistake in getting voted by me doesn't mean we should do anything too hasty here Of course not. | ||
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On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote: Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid. Yes, because clearly everyone who is not voting the main wagon is wasting his vote. Not like I actually put SL in the lead before I left or anything. We will lynch SL with fire on day4. If rayn hasn't started being town until then he can go next. Alternatively we can also get rid of Palmar then. | ||
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On June 22 2017 19:41 sicklucker wrote: oh I did totally do that right my bad forgot. Im trying to get shot here Seems realistic. | ||
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On June 22 2017 20:14 sicklucker wrote: wait i quoted some idoit and put a sign face QFT | ||
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Not that it matters that much because we should kill him last as long as he keeps being entertaining. | ||
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On June 22 2017 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I honestly don't really think sicklucker is mafia. Why? I think you really should. | ||
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On June 22 2017 23:01 disformation wrote: what i really dont like this game is that while we are soon to be on d4, it is still all about the d1 annul/xata trains and that it gives the low volume/low active ppl that were off wagon/not voting d1 even more wiggle room. i am also somewhat worried that one of the more active players is playing town pretty hard. and i am really low on good town reads in a game with a bunch of players alive. Then don't make this game about d1. That's quite stupid anyways. Let's see what rayn comes up with regarding SL. Should not take him too long if he is town. | ||
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On June 22 2017 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i really shouldn't. The case(s) on him are very weak and based on stuff that i don't think make logically sense. Knowing what Grackaroni flipped and the way people on sicklucker pushed (or rather the lack of it) him. I'll write a more detailed answer in a bit, got friends visiting right now. This is bullshit and you know it. You are defending him by proxy with this "there were shit cases on him" without even analyzing his play which is very different from the town!SL you should know. You just pick the 1 bad sounding point Rels brought up (SL pushing a lynch day1) and claim that it invalidates the whole SL push. Very scummy thing to do. I am eagerly awaiting your explanation of how the Grack flip makes SL town but: You are probably mafia. | ||
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On June 22 2017 23:22 disformation wrote: @chez: why are you scumreading sl again? He is not towny. Town!SL often uses bullshit logic but he usually arrives at decent conclusions. Yet he is pushing this town in a very bad direction without ever reevaluating. Rels brought good stuff up yesterday and also during the night. HF was extremely convinced SL is mafia and I very much respect his reads. | ||
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On June 22 2017 23:54 disformation wrote: reminds me of my first game here. i was doc. sl for some weird mechanical reason was 100% convinced there would be a vet. in a setup where mafia knows the roles. easy tr.  Sure. There is nothing of the usual stupid but towny stuff from him in this game though. And he monotonously pushed for me, Grack and Rels to be lynched for no good reason without ever reevaluating or taking things or new developments into account. Mafia. | ||
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On June 22 2017 23:58 disformation wrote: dunno. hoshi was tring sl. So what? | ||
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Nice counter. But knowing your temper I will ignore it. On June 23 2017 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Chezitwo i will try to explain this as clearly as i possibly can and then if you don't understand it you can do what the fuck ever you want and have a what the fuck ever you want read on me, and i won't give any shits about it. The push on sicklucker is based on very bad reasoning, i already talked about it with disformation yesterday. If you can't comprehend the reasoning behind what i said then i literally can't help you. I already also said this yesterday: Yes, i thought, and i still think at least one of those three alive is mafia. Which brings me to: After my vote on Grackaroni i had the thought at some point that he is actually town because of the people (outside you and disformation) voting for sicklucker didn't give any shits about the lynch at all. Unfortunately Grackaroni went and fucking claimed mafia and you should always lynch that. At that point i thought they just gave up on trying to save him. But knowing he wasn't actually mafia i am back to the conclusion that the people on sicklucker didn't really care which one of the two gets lynched. I still don't have any reason to think sicklucker is mafia. As mafia, at some point sicklucker will always do the thing where i know he has TMI - it has happened before and i thought i saw that on N1 but the night kills invalidated that. Also you should know one thing about me. I don't give any flying fucks anymore. I used to, but i don't have the same kind of "fire" i used to have when i was able to play about 4-10 hours a day. I don't have the time, and even if i did it takes too much energy and just makes me mad, so i stopped. And then there is this other thing: These are quotes from the last couple of games i have played here. You are probably not aware of this at all assuming you havent played for a while. If you however are, then you can fucking die because you're mafia trying to pull completely retarded meta shit on me you should 100% know is false. I don't care if i am lynched. I don't care to yell at people about my scumreads. I care about being right or wrong and figuring out the game. Sad but true - i am not playing for anyone except for my own amusement anymore, because of the shit i have been getting in games especially when i am FUCKING right. So yeah, i don't care what you think of my alignment or my play. Dealwithit. I don't think sicklucker is mafia. My top mafia read is Rels. Rels should know this aswell, yet he is softly pushing me for this shit. I think you're town, i think disformation is town, i think VA is town, i think ruxxar is town, i think btdt is town, i think sicklucker is town. I kind of think Blazinghand is town. I don't know what FF is. I don't know what Palmar is. I don't know what Eversince is. Tumblewood can be mafia because i don't remember anything he has posted. Skynx can be mafia for what i have talked about today. That's it. Assuming there is 5 mafia the mafia is Rels, Skynx, Tumblewood and most likely one of Palmar and FF. There are my reads. Either you agree or not, but there they are. See, Rayn. Nowhere in this post are you actually explaining to me why SL is town. The grack stuff has SL being town as a basis which makes it irrelevant as an argument. If SL is mafia then scum obviously did care about this lynch which shows if you look at the development of the wagons. Your points for SL being town are: "Rels said he is mafia for doing something generally attributed to townies" which sounds good on paper but doesn't take SLs meta/Rels reasoning into account while failing to aknowledge any of his other arguments regarding SL. You basically take this single point as an excuse not to talk about anything else which was brought up against him. You also completely refuse to analyze his play. Second point is the tmi stuff which is fair enough but just because it happened often so far does not mean it always happens and SL has played here for a while now. Give his mafia play at least some credit ffs. I do not expect miracles from you rayn and I know that as town you are capable of finding mafia in games you are generally not widely townread in. But you were wrong on Grack already and the logic you are presenting just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. | ||
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On June 23 2017 01:10 disformation wrote: @rayn can you explain your va town read? guys really null to me. town: fefe chezitwo rayn townlean: btdt Do not townread rayn just for getting emotional. He will get heated as both alignments. On June 23 2017 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: disformation read this up to post 100 or so: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/8rjcQH6vDt2W Basically when VA is scum he pushes mafia agenda and it shows (and no, thinking a townie is mafia is not necessarily pushing mafia agenda). He is not pushing any agenda this game, his play just screams "here is what i think, don't care if you care or not". I don't think i have ever been wrong on VA's alignment after September 25 2013. So there is that. This is generally true. But mafia!VA also feels the need to act reasonable/towny and post more casually than town!VA who just does not give the slightest fuck and I think this dividing treshold might have been reached this game. I am also not so sure about him not pushing an agenda considering his play so far. Very much on the fence here. Wouldn't lynch him soon though. | ||
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On June 23 2017 02:54 disformation wrote: eh more like tring rayn because his reasonings make a lot of sense to me and he had a post that resonated fairly well with what i am thinking about the game. e.g. most stuff he pointed out about sl's case make sense to me and i agree tht the case is fairly weak (see me unvoting yesterday). but i also agree with you: not sure if that makes sl town. If it resonated so well with you then please summarize it for me because I do not see it. Of course stuff like "that's not a good reason to scumread someone" in the case I just mentioned makes sense. That does not mean that his conclusion is correct or that he put in a decent effort to evaluate Sickluckers alignment. | ||
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