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Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 10:18 GMT
#3330
On June 20 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 18:37 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 18:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 20 2017 18:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 20 2017 17:02 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 16:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
My disfo senses are tingling
How is he who is close to conftown not dead

geez. i wonder which scummer woudlnt shoot me.
On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Disfo, why buddy so hard with HF from the get-go? Given you're behaviour, you're super confident he's town.

I townread him currently, too, so does Koshi. w00t w00t

I WISH I was super confident he's town. =D
Not gonna lie: I like playing with HF and it would be cool to have a mindmeld over that koshi thing.

But I also mentioned that I feel like a bunch of ppl are buddying in my direction so I am a bit paranoid.

I love buddying up to you when I'm scum because you're super easy to buddy. Like "be nice to disfo and he'll either townread you or give you 1000000 chances to justify yourself". You're not confident about your reads.

You're super good at establishing yourself as town but you're not so good at scumhunting.

While I do suck at both :D

=p

And what's your exact point


hey disfo

what was the purpose of your post when you yourself gave answers to your question?
you know besides throwing shade at me

are you dumb?

*hands mirror*
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 10:42 GMT
#3333
It would be impressive if btdt is mafia. Very rarely have I seen someone push mafia agenda so openly like he does in this game. He probably isn't scum though.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 11:09 GMT
#3347
On June 20 2017 20:01 disformation wrote:
kinda 50/50 on whether i should say fuck this game tbh

Chill you aren't in danger of being lynched because one guy calls you mafia. Just do your thing and shrugg it off.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 11:32 GMT
#3353
On June 20 2017 20:14 disformation wrote:
the "putting words in my mouth to fit his narrative" in part #5 is also real stronk.

Anyways, we are not lynching either of you 2 so you should both probably ignore each other for a while.

Currently we are lynching the Gracken. Alternatives consist of SL, TW and other underwhelming people but not of btdt or disformation. A Palmar wagon could also be useful given his total negligence of the game.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 13:36 GMT
#3420
On June 20 2017 21:36 Rels wrote:
Palmar is going to be lynched at some point if he continues playing like that. From what I've seen he can absolutely be town. Or scum, but it proves nothing.

That's why you need to try and lynch him at some point. Preferably during the week.
On June 20 2017 22:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
sicklucker has actually accumulated 12 pages of filter

So what? A SL wagon is fine too.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 13:41 GMT
#3424
On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure.

Yeah, basically this. But we should not allow Palmar to keep this up either regardless of his alignment.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 14:27 GMT
#3470
On June 20 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 22:41 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure.

Yeah, basically this. But we should not allow Palmar to keep this up either regardless of his alignment.

Surely the stern facial expression will make me snap out of it.

Apparently it did :D
On June 20 2017 22:46 Palmar wrote:
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On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!

I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.

I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.

Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent.

So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on.


Yes, that is exactly what I am claiming.

How am I supposed to believe that a guy like this:
On June 16 2017 07:40 Palmar wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:37 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Shenannie onto marv?

😇I'm only half joking

nha. 0 posts is not his mafia style. He has some dignity and respect for the game.

He had, tbh.

He's the guy who just quit a game because he rolled mafia, as much as I like him (I love the guy, he's by far guy I've interacted most with outside of mafia that I've met here) he has been rather sketchy in his appearances lately. If anything his silence does point to him being mafia (or simply having forgotten about the game).

does not realize that marvs universal TL absence is obviously not connected to a mafia game he signed up for ages ago? Walk me through this. Do you actually believe marv would stop himself from posting on this forum because of this game? Not to mention that he stopped posting way before it started and he could know his alignment.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 14:56 GMT
#3476
On June 20 2017 23:53 disformation wrote:
well the grack case is kinda:
underwhelming as fuck
hammered annul

I think the first point is far more important here but yeah.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 14:57 GMT
#3477
Jesus, VA is almost too reasonable/amiable to be town.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 18:03 GMT
#3521
On June 21 2017 02:41 Blazinghand wrote:
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On June 21 2017 02:40 ruXxar wrote:
@BH

Right now I feel like you're just dickwaving quotes around.
Can you get to some conclusions on scum/town?
A list would be great.


nope. fuck list posts. in fact, literally for this post, i'm voting you, because you're asking for a list post, i've decided you're more scum than Rels

yawn...
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 18:44 GMT
#3532
On June 21 2017 03:30 Palmar wrote:
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On June 20 2017 23:27 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:41 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure.

Yeah, basically this. But we should not allow Palmar to keep this up either regardless of his alignment.

Surely the stern facial expression will make me snap out of it.

Apparently it did :D
On June 20 2017 22:46 Palmar wrote:
On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!

I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.

I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.

Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent.

So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on.


Yes, that is exactly what I am claiming.

How am I supposed to believe that a guy like this:
On June 16 2017 07:40 Palmar wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:37 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Shenannie onto marv?

😇I'm only half joking

nha. 0 posts is not his mafia style. He has some dignity and respect for the game.

He had, tbh.

He's the guy who just quit a game because he rolled mafia, as much as I like him (I love the guy, he's by far guy I've interacted most with outside of mafia that I've met here) he has been rather sketchy in his appearances lately. If anything his silence does point to him being mafia (or simply having forgotten about the game).

does not realize that marvs universal TL absence is obviously not connected to a mafia game he signed up for ages ago? Walk me through this. Do you actually believe marv would stop himself from posting on this forum because of this game? Not to mention that he stopped posting way before it started and he could know his alignment.


marv barely posts outside tl mafia at all, like his entire tl existence is basically tl mafia.

Well, a click on his profile tells a different story. And even if it was just TL mafia the point still stands and you know it.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 18:48 GMT
#3538
On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 21:23 Rels wrote:
SL / BH
rayn / ruxxar / Skynx
Palmar / Chezitwo / VA
ES / FF / Tumble / Grack
BTDT / disfo

That makes me feel good. This makes sense.


So there are 5 scumreads here, lets see the reasonings behind them.

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On June 20 2017 21:20 Rels wrote:
OK I'm done with my free time. Let's get a wagon starting on sicklucker.
##Vote sicklucker

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On June 20 2017 20:54 Rels wrote:
sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter.
On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn


i said very slightly convincing plz...

And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect.
+ it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did:
On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.

Not like I Rels out from a mile away


na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too

+ after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon".

I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious.

Meta read is irrelevant here, sl is just a troll he can do anything in D1 and wouldn't prolly be ai.
Second point is very ironic yeah i dunno whats your point here? If you're scumreading sl for that doesn't that makes you scum aswell???
You became everyone's main target because your filter was bad until today started basically. I can kinda see why he tr you earlier with your early list and everything.

Are you just bussing sl??

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On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere


Pretty much all about BH to make him his equally hardest scumread.

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On June 20 2017 21:16 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred

Don't like the bolded though. An easy list to make the seems good but does nothing.
On June 20 2017 02:10 Skynx wrote:
Starting my annul train series with the first trio of sl/ruxxar/fefe

On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul


On June 16 2017 03:11 sicklucker wrote:
##vote annul i agree nice ninja ff you get a cheap townread. I just voted him after reading his filter

Got one boys and im super trendy because no one voted him yet so bonus points


On June 16 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul


I'm down.


On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely


On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.

i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas.

Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter.

It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game.

I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great.


On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.



Don't know where to begin...

On June 20 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote:
Everyone on the train had terrible reasons for voting annul. Makes it kinda harder to analyze, scum could be all there tbf. No one had an outstanding read on Xata either, mainly this and that. All 6 I'd lynch 1 by 1 except Ruxxar maybe as he's picking up the game.

On June 20 2017 02:30 Skynx wrote:
One thing I noted tho, when it was 6-5 to annul, Eversince came late into thread and claimed he's clueless with that post but he took another 12 mins to think about who to vote.
From a town point, if you're clueless, making the train 6-6 shouldn't really bother you but if you're scum you're literally offering your RB on a silver platter.

On June 20 2017 02:47 Skynx wrote:
I feel like few votes on him and Grack will start spilling all the beans.

And this looks like he started fabricating a vote analyze but didn't know how to do it. There is nothing there. Like the bolded above, he points that every reasonning is bad and he wants to lynch every player. No game solving there.

Not trying to push game forward and all.

I didn't understand anything from rayn interaction, I assume they are disagreeing on reads?
Ruxxar pretty much the same I don't get the sr but apparently you sr him from very early on, why not vote him when he had bunch of people on him??

There is a general lack of structure in these scumreads, he reads the game thats for sure but he just quotes posts and makes up bunch of reasons out of nowhere.
Lets look at the townreads,

I actually found the one about Grack
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On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote:
but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely


This is just laughable, Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game along with ES and gets the easiest tr based on something so superficial.

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On June 20 2017 20:27 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic

looooool
never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him.
Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum.


More easy tr's, did you even read rest of btdt filter? He's not making 1 bit of sense since start of the game and above post can be very easily fabricated by mafia. I don't even think I'd come up with this one if i was really trying hard to tr btdt.


Concluding point:

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On June 20 2017 21:00 Rels wrote:
Actually I just did.

On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim.
They are more likely town if SL is mafia.

or what do you mean?

believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim

this is kinda townie

Nothing else stands out of to me as town or scum. The activity is bad ofc though. I want him to play more.


Mind you he makes a similar post about me but I'm still scum and TW is town????

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On June 20 2017 21:08 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:39 Skynx wrote:
Koshi is not screaming and calling this town shit, he might be mafia actually

this is kinda townie. Weird thing to say to a town leader that is obviously not getting lynched


Like wtf? He just finds reasons in his universe that makes someone town or scum but apparently they don't apply to everyone in same value. It is most clearly seen in sl and simple tr on me and tw.
I just can't follow any of his reads, sorry.

##Vote: Rels

Is it just me or is this last line really out of place?
And if Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game how come you aren't on board with killing him?
On June 21 2017 03:36 Skynx wrote:
Disfo might be mafia at this point purely cuz of association.

Him not dying after N2 is just madness. Framing redcheck on him by fellow mafia for pure WIFOM. Now that there is only me and him on original Xata train, he accuses me for being mafia whereas his main reason for voting Xata is sheeping my case and he has absolutely no idea on Xata otherwise.

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On June 16 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar.


Excuse me?

you are a pretty big question mark.
skynx and df are big town reads.

skynx had a good post on xata


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On June 16 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:
Disformation voting Xatalos when annul is moving up the lynchlist.

Interesting?


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On June 16 2017 03:43 Koshi wrote:
@disformation

Where do you have anything on Xatalos in your filter?



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On June 16 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts?


This is also a really bad post. There is literally nothing insane about disformation surviving the night.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 18:50 GMT
#3541
On June 21 2017 03:45 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 03:36 Skynx wrote:
Disfo might be mafia at this point purely cuz of association.

Him not dying after N2 is just madness. Framing redcheck on him by fellow mafia for pure WIFOM. Now that there is only me and him on original Xata train, he accuses me for being mafia whereas his main reason for voting Xata is sheeping my case and he has absolutely no idea on Xata otherwise.

On June 16 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar.


Excuse me?

you are a pretty big question mark.
skynx and df are big town reads.

skynx had a good post on xata


On June 16 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:
Disformation voting Xatalos when annul is moving up the lynchlist.

Interesting?


On June 16 2017 03:43 Koshi wrote:
@disformation

Where do you have anything on Xatalos in your filter?



On June 16 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts?



Wow.. this looks solid.

Not sure if serious.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 18:55 GMT
#3545
On June 21 2017 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 03:48 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:
On June 20 2017 21:23 Rels wrote:
SL / BH
rayn / ruxxar / Skynx
Palmar / Chezitwo / VA
ES / FF / Tumble / Grack
BTDT / disfo

That makes me feel good. This makes sense.


So there are 5 scumreads here, lets see the reasonings behind them.

On June 20 2017 21:20 Rels wrote:
OK I'm done with my free time. Let's get a wagon starting on sicklucker.
##Vote sicklucker

On June 20 2017 20:54 Rels wrote:
sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter.
On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn


i said very slightly convincing plz...

And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect.
+ it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did:
On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.

Not like I Rels out from a mile away


na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too

+ after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon".

I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious.

Meta read is irrelevant here, sl is just a troll he can do anything in D1 and wouldn't prolly be ai.
Second point is very ironic yeah i dunno whats your point here? If you're scumreading sl for that doesn't that makes you scum aswell???
You became everyone's main target because your filter was bad until today started basically. I can kinda see why he tr you earlier with your early list and everything.

Are you just bussing sl??

On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere


Pretty much all about BH to make him his equally hardest scumread.

On June 20 2017 21:16 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred

Don't like the bolded though. An easy list to make the seems good but does nothing.
On June 20 2017 02:10 Skynx wrote:
Starting my annul train series with the first trio of sl/ruxxar/fefe

On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul


On June 16 2017 03:11 sicklucker wrote:
##vote annul i agree nice ninja ff you get a cheap townread. I just voted him after reading his filter

Got one boys and im super trendy because no one voted him yet so bonus points


On June 16 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul


I'm down.


On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely


On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.

i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas.

Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter.

It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game.

I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great.


On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.



Don't know where to begin...

On June 20 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote:
Everyone on the train had terrible reasons for voting annul. Makes it kinda harder to analyze, scum could be all there tbf. No one had an outstanding read on Xata either, mainly this and that. All 6 I'd lynch 1 by 1 except Ruxxar maybe as he's picking up the game.

On June 20 2017 02:30 Skynx wrote:
One thing I noted tho, when it was 6-5 to annul, Eversince came late into thread and claimed he's clueless with that post but he took another 12 mins to think about who to vote.
From a town point, if you're clueless, making the train 6-6 shouldn't really bother you but if you're scum you're literally offering your RB on a silver platter.

On June 20 2017 02:47 Skynx wrote:
I feel like few votes on him and Grack will start spilling all the beans.

And this looks like he started fabricating a vote analyze but didn't know how to do it. There is nothing there. Like the bolded above, he points that every reasonning is bad and he wants to lynch every player. No game solving there.

Not trying to push game forward and all.

I didn't understand anything from rayn interaction, I assume they are disagreeing on reads?
Ruxxar pretty much the same I don't get the sr but apparently you sr him from very early on, why not vote him when he had bunch of people on him??

There is a general lack of structure in these scumreads, he reads the game thats for sure but he just quotes posts and makes up bunch of reasons out of nowhere.
Lets look at the townreads,

I actually found the one about Grack
On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote:
but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely


This is just laughable, Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game along with ES and gets the easiest tr based on something so superficial.

On June 20 2017 20:27 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic

looooool
never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him.
Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum.


More easy tr's, did you even read rest of btdt filter? He's not making 1 bit of sense since start of the game and above post can be very easily fabricated by mafia. I don't even think I'd come up with this one if i was really trying hard to tr btdt.


Concluding point:

On June 20 2017 21:00 Rels wrote:
Actually I just did.

On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim.
They are more likely town if SL is mafia.

or what do you mean?

believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim

this is kinda townie

Nothing else stands out of to me as town or scum. The activity is bad ofc though. I want him to play more.


Mind you he makes a similar post about me but I'm still scum and TW is town????

On June 20 2017 21:08 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:39 Skynx wrote:
Koshi is not screaming and calling this town shit, he might be mafia actually

this is kinda townie. Weird thing to say to a town leader that is obviously not getting lynched


Like wtf? He just finds reasons in his universe that makes someone town or scum but apparently they don't apply to everyone in same value. It is most clearly seen in sl and simple tr on me and tw.
I just can't follow any of his reads, sorry.

##Vote: Rels

Is it just me or is this last line really out of place?
And if Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game how come you aren't on board with killing him?
On June 21 2017 03:36 Skynx wrote:
Disfo might be mafia at this point purely cuz of association.

Him not dying after N2 is just madness. Framing redcheck on him by fellow mafia for pure WIFOM. Now that there is only me and him on original Xata train, he accuses me for being mafia whereas his main reason for voting Xata is sheeping my case and he has absolutely no idea on Xata otherwise.

On June 16 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar.


Excuse me?

you are a pretty big question mark.
skynx and df are big town reads.

skynx had a good post on xata


On June 16 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:
Disformation voting Xatalos when annul is moving up the lynchlist.

Interesting?


On June 16 2017 03:43 Koshi wrote:
@disformation

Where do you have anything on Xatalos in your filter?



On June 16 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts?


This is also a really bad post. There is literally nothing insane about disformation surviving the night.

Grack will die dw, Rels is looking worse to me right now since he's revealed a bit more by being more active through this day. There is a chance Grack is just town who doesn't give two shits about this game but reading through Rels I'm sure I found mafia.
Nice ridicule, you apparently ignored his actions on EOD and why he vote.

Any thoughts on that? Any thoughts on Rels? You practically ignored everything i said...

It's not really convincing me. I will give Rels some time now that he is playing.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 19:11 GMT
#3569
On June 21 2017 04:08 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 04:06 disformation wrote:
you just complained that everyone scumreading sl is dead.

what was the purpose of that post when you didnt even read my case on sl?

SL is prolly mafia thats the fucking point...

This is quite possible.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 19:21 GMT
#3575
On June 21 2017 04:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 04:16 Skynx wrote:
On June 21 2017 02:03 disformation wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:11 sicklucker wrote:
##vote annul i agree nice ninja ff you get a cheap townread. I just voted him after reading his filter

Got one boys and im super trendy because no one voted him yet so bonus points

never explains this scumread. despite me asking.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2017 04:29 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:27 sicklucker wrote:
Like i started the annul wagon which is obviosly the best wagon right now and will probably win. so lol @ people like skyx saying I did nothing

can you explain your annul scumread plx? prefered like I was a braindead 3 yr old




On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play

gets called out for that:
On June 16 2017 05:18 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:57 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


wtf??? Whichideas are unconventional? The time he called ruXxar mafia as his only scum read when like 5 people had pushed it?

I really need specific examples about what ideas he's pushed have been "unconventional." Hell, I can't even remember what ideas he's pushed at all.


ryan mostly

On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy

On June 16 2017 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:52 annul wrote:
"Fact is if annul flips town Xatalos is confirmed mafia."

"I also believe Xata and Annul are mafia."

all from koshi in less than 2 minutes


dammit stop being slightly convincing

On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn

On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn


i said very slightly convincing plz...



so sl is for whatever reason super convinced that annul is scum.
pushes annul super hard.
never explains why.
has an incredible weak and faulty tr on xata.
admits that a annul post looks slightly towny. doesnt reevaluate or anything.


after flip:
On June 16 2017 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
to be fair tho I mostly drove the close lynch. and I know im town so from my perspective I dont think xata necessary has to be mafia. but I completely understand people who think he and I am from what happened I might think the same

after n1:
On June 17 2017 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
im sure we still kill marvs slot over xatalos but it makes sense


This is your case? Essentially you say SL vote on annul was unjustified and bad, halle fucking lujah..

learn to read idiot.

Chill.... please don't get modkilled.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 19:26 GMT
#3580
On June 21 2017 04:24 disformation wrote:
i would be incredible happy to get modkilled out of this

Maybe. But that is an extremely selfish thing to do.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 21:27 GMT
#3639
On June 21 2017 06:11 ruXxar wrote:
Sicklucker is the biggest lynchbait right now.
Lynching him is not optimal town play.

Bro, don't you know:
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
I never get lynched when I dont want to be

Clearly the numerous times SL got lynched happened only because he wanted it to.

So, if he is lynchbait we should endulge him, shouldn't we? His posts just now were all utter garbage.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 21:29 GMT
#3642
Like, SL is doing his absolute best at making me want to lynch him right now.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 21:35 GMT
#3648
On June 21 2017 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 06:29 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, SL is doing his absolute best at making me want to lynch him right now.


Believe me, I know exactly how you feel.
An SL lynch would be so freaking sweet.

Your constant bullshit is also getting old by the way.
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