• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:55
CET 13:55
KST 21:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC28[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Can Game Data Analytics Help Players Improvements
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10084 users

[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 311

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 309 310 311 312 313 344 Next
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:37 GMT
#6201
btdt down, nightkill, skynx flip, lylo? is that correct?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:37 GMT
#6202
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:38 GMT
#6203
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:41 GMT
#6204
"like some of your points on skynx aren't bad" - but I choose to ignore them because I think that btdt voting Rels, then hammering Palmar is scummy. And I rate that higher than every other point that was raised so far by whoever.

You ignore the Rels wagon at this point
You ignore points about Skynx
You ignore points that other brought about other players

My play around EoD makes you auto this day on me, without showing willingness to even re-evaluate. Like, you call Skynx out for not explaining his vote on me, for the ninja, and you ignore that he throws another lazy-ass explanation, doesn't even remotely care about what else is going on?

Like, if I flip town, what are you gonna do, Skynx? Lynch Rels? Or what? You should even fucking consider Rels being town because I don't have 100% knowledge of the game but guess who has, yeah right, the guy who is "btdt is scum" since 2 days without any reasons
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:42 GMT
#6205
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

Like if you bold this shit than you should bold as well the fucking context

but you can of course choose what to read, what to highlight, and what to explain


this is skynx/disfo/rels lynch the fuck out of these guys as soon as I flip
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:44 GMT
#6206
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:45 GMT
#6207
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:47 GMT
#6208
On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:48 GMT
#6209
On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.

Nah. You're simply not understanding what I'm saying. More clear:

1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

It wasn't a "bait" with "please bite and maybe I gain something". It was an expectation. I was 100% sure that Skynx would save his scumbuddy Palmar by hammering Rels. Because he could always go back and blame BH for this.

I don't know how you can understand this in the way you construct it to be understood
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:49 GMT
#6210
EBWOP:
On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a town thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.

beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:50 GMT
#6211
On June 29 2017 22:47 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?

Except they weren't????? Even the outcome is the fucking same.

If I had done NOTHING, palmar would've flipped nevertheless. And OHHHH Palmar flipped. Same outcome. EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT THAT BEING SCUMMY is either SUPERBAD or an abosloutely misconstructed lie.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:50 GMT
#6212
On June 29 2017 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.

Nah. You're simply not understanding what I'm saying. More clear:

1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

It wasn't a "bait" with "please bite and maybe I gain something". It was an expectation. I was 100% sure that Skynx would save his scumbuddy Palmar by hammering Rels. Because he could always go back and blame BH for this.

I don't know how you can understand this in the way you construct it to be understood

so that just means you were expecting a rels lynch from that play.
who you didnt even properly scum read.
like this makes it even worse.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:50 GMT
#6213
On June 29 2017 22:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:47 disformation wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?

Except they weren't????? Even the outcome is the fucking same.

If I had done NOTHING, palmar would've flipped nevertheless. And OHHHH Palmar flipped. Same outcome. EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT THAT BEING SCUMMY is either SUPERBAD or an abosloutely misconstructed lie.

no. if skynx had switched with you rels would have been the lynch.
even if you switched back
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:51 GMT
#6214
On June 29 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.

Nah. You're simply not understanding what I'm saying. More clear:

1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

It wasn't a "bait" with "please bite and maybe I gain something". It was an expectation. I was 100% sure that Skynx would save his scumbuddy Palmar by hammering Rels. Because he could always go back and blame BH for this.

I don't know how you can understand this in the way you construct it to be understood

so that just means you were expecting a rels lynch from that play.
who you didnt even properly scum read.
like this makes it even worse.

How does this make it worse? I expect my scum read to hammer a town wagon to save his scumread.

That's what I expect. How is that making it worse? HOW FUCKIUNFG HOW FUCKING TELL ME THAT
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:52 GMT
#6215
BECAUSE YOU ARE WILLINGLY LET SOMEONE FLIP WHO IS NOT A SCUMREAD OF YOURS
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:52 GMT
#6216
On June 29 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:47 disformation wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?

Except they weren't????? Even the outcome is the fucking same.

If I had done NOTHING, palmar would've flipped nevertheless. And OHHHH Palmar flipped. Same outcome. EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT THAT BEING SCUMMY is either SUPERBAD or an abosloutely misconstructed lie.

no. if skynx had switched with you rels would have been the lynch.
even if you switched back

Yeah because everyone had the hammer. Every single vote at this point was decisive.

If Skynx had switched with me, Rels would've flipped as town and boom we have Skynx and Palmar confirmed as fucking scummers

congrats you understood what I wanted to achieve
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:52 GMT
#6217
On June 29 2017 22:52 disformation wrote:
BECAUSE YOU ARE WILLINGLY LET SOMEONE FLIP WHO IS NOT A SCUMREAD OF YOURS

YES AND I DO IT TO CONFIRM PALMAR AND SKYNX WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:53 GMT
#6218
LIKE HOW IS IT FUCKING BETTER WHAT WE HAVE NOWQ? NOW WE HAVE A FLIPPED PALMAR AND WE ARE TECHNICALLY NOT EVEN SURE IF RELS IS SCUM OR NOT
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 29 2017 13:53 GMT
#6219
AND TO FIND OUT WHAT RELS ALIGNMENT IS YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME BECAUSE THATS WHAT SKYNX IS ASSOCIATING

BUT DISFORMATION DOESNT LIKE UNFLIPPED AASSOCIATIONS RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES FROM FUCKING SKYNX
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:54 GMT
#6220
On June 29 2017 22:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
AND TO FIND OUT WHAT RELS ALIGNMENT IS YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME BECAUSE THATS WHAT SKYNX IS ASSOCIATING

BUT DISFORMATION DOESNT LIKE UNFLIPPED AASSOCIATIONS RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES FROM FUCKING SKYNX

which unflipped association?
i am lynching you because you did scummy shit.
Prev 1 309 310 311 312 313 344 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
21:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
ByuN vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Solar
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
IntoTheiNu 787
WardiTV603
ComeBackTV 515
TaKeTV 258
IndyStarCraft 148
Rex97
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
19:00
Sea Duckling Open #151
CranKy Ducklings79
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 148
Rex 97
Codebar 70
MindelVK 29
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 65956
Calm 6556
Rain 1796
Jaedong 835
BeSt 612
FanTaSy 339
Larva 309
EffOrt 271
Hyuk 236
Rush 229
[ Show more ]
Last 175
Hyun 146
Zeus 126
actioN 126
ZerO 115
Mind 109
Pusan 75
Soulkey 72
Mong 69
Sharp 54
ToSsGirL 44
Bale 40
sSak 32
Killer 31
JYJ 26
Hm[arnc] 21
Shine 21
Sacsri 20
Aegong 15
sorry 15
sOs 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Movie 10
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Dendi1015
XcaliburYe260
Counter-Strike
fl0m5290
byalli590
kennyS566
SPUNJ411
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor100
Other Games
summit1g10194
FrodaN2139
singsing1861
B2W.Neo683
Lowko349
KnowMe224
ViBE72
ZerO(Twitch)14
Railgan11
CosmosSc2 8
XaKoH 1
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• Azhi_Dahaki1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2087
Upcoming Events
IPSL
4h 5m
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
7h 5m
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 5m
WardiTV Invitational
23h 5m
IPSL
1d 4h
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
1d 7h
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
1d 21h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.