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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 20 2017 19:05 GMT
#3559
On June 21 2017 03:42 Skynx wrote:
Palmar are you here? Wtf are you doing this game?

enjoying life!

Things are going fine, there's plenty of people stepping up and taking charge. I'm loving not having to whip people into shape for once.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 20 2017 19:13 GMT
#3570
looks like Vivax wanted to kill Grack, he's the best player that's flipped so maybe I should trust him.

But then again, I like killing sl.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 21 2017 09:22 GMT
#3834
On June 21 2017 16:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
current main wagon:

Grackaroni (5): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority

D1 main wagon:

annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince

Ruxxar and Fecalfeast are voting together once more. Both rather townread people. Why was everyone so super sure on Fecalfeast again? I think there were valid points but don't remember.

VayneAuthority ended up on Skynx D1 and is now up on the Grack wagon after popping in for a while. So D1 a non-committal vote and D3 joining the wagon in a strong fashion (I think joining a wagon as #5/#6 has more weight than #1/#2) which gives me worries. What are VA's reasons?

Like, people from the annul wagon aren't exactly cleared. We're focusing on Rels, Grack, ES, but left out Ruxxar for a lot of time (for which exact reasons?)

Hmm


Ruxxar, from what little I've read of him, kinda sounds like town, but it's not a strong read.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 21 2017 20:50 GMT
#4229
In Vivax we trust
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 21 2017 23:40 GMT
#4415
I forgot Vivax is bad. That's on me
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:32 GMT
#5143
oh we're voting me today?

could we rather do it next cycle so it doesn't happen on a weekend?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:36 GMT
#5145
On June 23 2017 13:45 Tumblewood wrote:
but one thing we can be 99.9999% sure about is either rayn or palmar is scum. because rayn and palmar are the only natural town leaders still alive and also very respected players, so in any case where scum is a bunch of non-leaders they are 99.9999% killing rayn or palmar



On June 23 2017 14:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 14:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
What game are you playing where palmar is a town.leaser

he's not playing as one but he's the kind of guy who could at any moment. like always scary even when he's not doing anything


This is a possible bullshit vote. I'll give it a rating of maybe 4/10. He never explains explicitly why he is voting me or why he suspects me. He barely even talked about me until the general consensus of the game was that I should be talked about.

But he does get some credit for being the first guy on the wagon.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:42 GMT
#5149
On June 23 2017 20:41 Rels wrote:
I think Palmar needs to go.
##Vote Palmar


Not gonna quote all the important mentions.

In general Rels has never really thought I'm scum. I am willing to err on the side of insightful rather than tmi with that. Rels knows me and knows this is not really how I play scum. I tend to switch up my playstyles a lot more when I'm town.

Like even at this point Rels talks about me flipping non-town, rather than mafia, because he knows that there is no chance I play like this when on a mafia team, the QT tends to keep me at least with the appearance of trying. Now of course there's a chance Rels isn't this smart and is just pushing information he knows, but I think that's the less likely scenario.

In general I give his vote a 7/10. The only reason it isn't higher really is that it's flat out stupid to assume there are third parties, but I also have a feeling that he sort of just wants to pressure me into playing.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:59 GMT
#5154
On June 23 2017 20:49 Chezitwo wrote:
Pull yourself together man. It is getting slightly annoying how much you pity yourself.

We can create a wagon on Palmar and see what happens. Sure. But I do not think he has the highest chance of being mafia.


It's harder to apply the possible TMI vs insight to Chezitwo than Rels. He agrees with Rels that I am not mafia. He doesn't really think I'm one all, but wants to start a train on me for policy reasons. It is a good policy, I'm a total scumbag for not doing anything, although my Damdred townread was great.

Thing is, Chezitwo sounds like someone who knows what he is doing. His posts are readable and concise and I have an easy time following his train of thought in general.

So yeah, he fully admits to pressure voting me. I think his reaction and followup today will reveal much more about him than

The only thing that gives me pause is that for someone who is good enough to realize that I am much more likely to do this as town than mafia, it feels weird that he made this post:

On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!

I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.

I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.

Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent.

So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on.


You see, if he is good enough and knows me and TL meta well enough to realize I don't do what I'm doing this game as scum, it's weird that he doesn't know that marv tends to go a bit mad when rolling mafia.

I don't know. It's weak and I'm not sure he deserves to be lynched, it's not a bad reason for voting me. I think I'll give his vote 7/10
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 16:36 GMT
#5262
disfo has written like 20% of the entire thread, I'm never killing that guy
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 16:37 GMT
#5263
TW's filter is super weak, and by far the scummiest vote on me.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 24 2017 23:32 GMT
#5350
Good Jón team
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 25 2017 22:09 GMT
#5364
On June 25 2017 08:36 disformation wrote:
yo palmar. hope you are ready to play starting next day phase

Well do I need to? we just lynched the most scummy guy who wanted to kill me. I think we're doing allright. Let's keep lynching scummy people y'know?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 25 2017 22:10 GMT
#5365
On June 23 2017 23:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 13:45 Tumblewood wrote:
but one thing we can be 99.9999% sure about is either rayn or palmar is scum. because rayn and palmar are the only natural town leaders still alive and also very respected players, so in any case where scum is a bunch of non-leaders they are 99.9999% killing rayn or palmar



Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 14:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 23 2017 14:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
What game are you playing where palmar is a town.leaser

he's not playing as one but he's the kind of guy who could at any moment. like always scary even when he's not doing anything


This is a possible bullshit vote. I'll give it a rating of maybe 4/10. He never explains explicitly why he is voting me or why he suspects me. He barely even talked about me until the general consensus of the game was that I should be talked about.

But he does get some credit for being the first guy on the wagon.


See here, lowest rated vote on my wagon.

It might actually be a completely valid strategy that I just rate the votes people put on me and then we lynch the shittiest one. (I didn't rate disfo because 40 pages of filter or something).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 09:21 GMT
#5412
Can anyone tell me why every time I look at the thread (admittedly not very often) rayn is completely mia? Like he doesn't really have the pattern of a lazy player anywhere in his portfolio.

I don't necessarily think it makes him mafia, but it's an anomaly.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 09:22 GMT
#5413
On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view.

this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it.

@bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff?


Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag.

hmmm...
brings me back to my:
1 of rels/rayn
1 of skynx/btdt
1 of palmar/bh


Try not to work on assumptions like this, if you're wrong on even one pair, especially if both are mafia, you might end up giving undue towncredit because the other half of the pair flipped scum. Same if both are town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 09:25 GMT
#5416
Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 09:30 GMT
#5419
On June 26 2017 18:29 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 18:25 Palmar wrote:
Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special

well. everyone thought sl was scum... =D

yeah (and so did I) but that guy just messes up so much.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 09:35 GMT
#5421
On June 26 2017 18:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 18:29 disformation wrote:
On June 26 2017 18:25 Palmar wrote:
Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special

well. everyone thought sl was scum... =D

yeah (and so did I) but that guy just messes up so much.

Oh wait, I take that back, I'm thinking of someone completely different.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 09:41 GMT
#5422
Just read VA's filter. He's probably not mafia. Small chance of 3p obviously (just for having a killing role), but in general I don't think I have much interest in lynching him. While his filter is short it doesn't really scream mafia to me.

Do take my reads with a grain of salt btw, I am less involved than usual.
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