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lol you have the entire town written down as supportive of lynching me and think that these people are getting night killed for suspecting me.
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I finished reading through the end of the day.
Disfo looked terrible but he also has a 26 page filter, most of which I'm probably not going to read. He didn't give a good reason for voting Xata and then when HF and Koshi both called out his vote as suspicious he backtracked saying that he could vote Annul too (after saying that he hadn't read Annul.)
Overall, he didn't feel very obs-warriory. He wasn't contributing many of his own ideas during that end of day period.
Conclusion: None
Vayneauthority was completely disconnected from the thread at the end of the day, dropping a role playing post and then calling out Skynx while making no attempt to convince people of his read.
Conclusion: Likely scum
I've got to go I can continue this later.
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On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
va is town dawg. probably. well im more sure on his read then ive ever been
Why?
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On June 21 2017 06:04 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 06:02 Grackaroni wrote:On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
va is town dawg. probably. well im more sure on his read then ive ever been Why? because at least 3 of the 4 or 5 mafia left are accounted for
You're more sure of this read than you've ever been because there are other people who are scummier?
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I'm not sure why we aren't killing you to be honest.
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I don't think Rels is mafia. Even though I found his reason not to lynch me very strange.
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On June 21 2017 06:18 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:On June 21 2017 06:16 sicklucker wrote:On June 21 2017 06:13 Rels wrote:On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
and ya I like how all the nk's point to me. no like I really fucking love it. Its quite obvious mafia want to lynch me.
Its evidence to how awful they are.
Maybe palmars mafia after all. He might be delusional enough to think he can get me lynched even tho I never get lynched when I dont want to be. He seems to have lost all respect for me.
Hes also the only one actually pushing me and the nk's suggest there trying to push me How does the NK point at you ? not reading the game are we? can you answer the fucking question nope . I dont negotiate with terrorists. at best you can convince me grack or ever is scum today. Today is not about me its about you
RUH ROH
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On June 21 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think Rels is mafia. Even though I found his reason not to lynch me very strange. ... You shouldn't be defending rels mate. You should be defending yourself.
Shit I better start up my defense.
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Why do you want to kill me so badly again?
Your filter is filled with funny spam lists.
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On June 21 2017 06:45 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 06:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Why do you want to kill me so badly again?
Your filter is filled with funny spam lists. you saved the mafia roleblocker
So did you...
and you were specifically called out by HF for pushing this lynch since you never push lynches day 1.
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On June 21 2017 06:45 sicklucker wrote:
i love how rels and grack are teaming up when if they were town they would think the other is mafia. obvious team
Good luck with that.
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On June 21 2017 06:47 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 06:46 Grackaroni wrote:On June 21 2017 06:45 sicklucker wrote:On June 21 2017 06:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Why do you want to kill me so badly again?
Your filter is filled with funny spam lists. you saved the mafia roleblocker So did you... and you were specifically called out by HF for pushing this lynch since you never push lynches day 1. yes and some people on that wagon have to be mafia. why me? I had legit reasons and pushed someone before xata was even up for lynch. but you and rels only showed up and joined my wagon when xata was in danger. Its fucking simple logic. it sucks to fight it as mafia I know
Xata was in danger at the time that you were starting your push.
I think it's pretty ridiculous to try to absolve yourself from taking any responsibility for the lynch that you championed.
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On June 21 2017 07:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:On June 21 2017 06:47 sicklucker wrote:On June 21 2017 06:46 Grackaroni wrote:On June 21 2017 06:45 sicklucker wrote:On June 21 2017 06:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Why do you want to kill me so badly again?
Your filter is filled with funny spam lists. you saved the mafia roleblocker So did you... and you were specifically called out by HF for pushing this lynch since you never push lynches day 1. yes and some people on that wagon have to be mafia. why me? I had legit reasons and pushed someone before xata was even up for lynch. but you and rels only showed up and joined my wagon when xata was in danger. Its fucking simple logic. it sucks to fight it as mafia I know Xata was in danger at the time that you were starting your push.I think it's pretty ridiculous to try to absolve yourself from taking any responsibility for the lynch that you championed. no I made a big post on this you should read it. he had votes but he was the 4th or a weak 3rd wagon when I started my push. koshi was #1 in votes when I started my push. So if im mafia why do I start pushing a town over another town?
I probably don't want to read that lol.
The Koshi lynch clearly wasn't going through by that point in the day, so I think that's pretty irrelevant.
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We lynched SL in the game where we were scum together.
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On June 21 2017 07:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 07:07 Grackaroni wrote:
We lynched SL in the game where we were scum together. yeah. By managing to get someone to hammer him, ending the phase early.
lol that was Prplhz. He did that completely of his own accord.
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I think the only reason I'm being auto'd in the first place is because of RuXxar.
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On June 17 2017 09:10 ruXxar wrote:
From reading the filters I posted above I'm gleaning this current list:
Scum:
Xatalos.
Rels: his reads are all over the place with no straightforward conclusions.
Grackaroni: Theres something about this guy that doesn't feel right.
Tumblewood: His reads list is really suspicious.
Town:
Darth foley.
Rayn.
FF
Vivax
Conflicted:
SL
Eversince
Conclusion:
Lynch Xata or Rels today.
You actually aren't even lynching me for the Xatalos vote.
You're just moving down your list from earlier that you got from dead people's filters.
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On June 21 2017 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like literally Rels, you have made a case on Ruxxar that is basically "(1) he is trying to lynch his top scumread with (2) a bad case". Now: What is scummy in (1)? Why is this a bad case: *I took away the "he hammered town" part because that's actually a thing that never makes anyone mafia*Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote:[.....] 2) He doesn't try to solve the game. How many scum reads did he have the whole game? Let's see: DF: On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
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Care to elaborate?
Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
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btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
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Sure.
This post:
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I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.
Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. Look at me as much as you like, but why? I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in. Disfo: On June 15 2017 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I like Rayn too though. And I'm ok with a Disfo lynch. HF: On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.
I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.
i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas. Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. "I'm ok with". "Seems like". There's 0 commitment to anything here. Just superficial non-sense without any substance. So obviously he followed up and actually tried to push his scum reads? Nope. Well, at least he voted for his scum reads? Nope. It's like a total non-commitment to any of his "reads" and just screams "I'm just trying to blend in". Explain me why this is a bad case?
I chose more hedgey language intentionally, especially in regard to Annul who I was only looking at because he was one of the vote contenders along with Xatalos.
It was a situation where I had to lynch between the two rather than start a lynch on someone like HF.
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I don't feel good about this whole situation really. I hate how easily people are going along with the idea that mafia must have put up a big fight to try to save Xatalos and therefore the late voters on Annul must be scum. I only know whether my vote is scum, but a large effort to save Xatalos is not the sense that I'm getting at all. I like Rels because he seems to at least be viewing things in a similar way to how I am rather than just pushing me and Eversince and going along with thread sentiment.
From the non-voters:
Vayne, Btdt, Tumblewood, Palmar, Chezitwo, Rayn.
I don't think any of these non-voting people have been overly townie and there's probably a lot of scum in this group.
I really haven't been feeling very motivated this game or the end of the last one and will probably stop playing for a while due to burn out (as either alignment).
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