EPTid say referencing the xatalos/annul lynch is the most concrete evidence we have right now. it remains to be seen whether SL is actually scum or not
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
id say referencing the xatalos/annul lynch is the most concrete evidence we have right now. it remains to be seen whether SL is actually scum or not | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vayne, what did you mean by this on FF: just this: ? in my opinion it is unlikely that xatalos helps start a lynch train on his scum partner that early before we have much of any info, that would be the earliest bus ever. As I always say mafia is a timeline game, and you have to account that most people are not thinking way ahead. Also just the plain fact that ruxxar has posted a lot and seems engaged in the game/lynching although this is not as relevant to my interests | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I honestly don't really think sicklucker is mafia. Why? I think you really should. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:52 VayneAuthority wrote: in my opinion it is unlikely that xatalos helps start a lynch train on his scum partner that early before we have much of any info, that would be the earliest bus ever. As I always say mafia is a timeline game, and you have to account that most people are not thinking way ahead. Also just the plain fact that ruxxar has posted a lot and seems engaged in the game/lynching although this is not as relevant to my interests hm. interesting point with the early train. totally did forget about that. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
i am also somewhat worried that one of the more active players is playing town pretty hard. and i am really low on good town reads in a game with a bunch of players alive. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 22 2017 23:01 disformation wrote: what i really dont like this game is that while we are soon to be on d4, it is still all about the d1 annul/xata trains and that it gives the low volume/low active ppl that were off wagon/not voting d1 even more wiggle room. i am also somewhat worried that one of the more active players is playing town pretty hard. and i am really low on good town reads in a game with a bunch of players alive. Then don't make this game about d1. That's quite stupid anyways. Let's see what rayn comes up with regarding SL. Should not take him too long if he is town. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
d2 being auto didnt help. though i suppose i could look a bit more into readprogression and reasons for votes d3. hope ill find the time. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 22 2017 21:57 ruXxar wrote: Rayn and BH are right. You are misrepresenting how the voting went down, and final vote count is absolutely not represenatitve of what the situation looked like. Therefore your analysis is pretty much void. The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
No i really shouldn't. The case(s) on him are very weak and based on stuff that i don't think make logically sense. Knowing what Grackaroni flipped and the way people on sicklucker pushed (or rather the lack of it) him. I'll write a more detailed answer in a bit, got friends visiting right now. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 22 2017 23:09 beentheredonethat wrote: The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree? The hammer votes was BH and Rayn. Anyone who was reading the thread at the time can confirm that. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 22 2017 23:15 ruXxar wrote: The hammer votes was BH and Rayn. Anyone who was reading the thread at the time can confirm that. Well then BH Who's all defensive about himself voting Grack, like "I did it and I stand by having done so" and who's pointing to himself as being the hammer. Is that scum being aware of how bad he looks who's trying to bring up points before town can bring it up? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
why are you scumreading sl again? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 22 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote: Well then BH Who's all defensive about himself voting Grack, like "I did it and I stand by having done so" and who's pointing to himself as being the hammer. Is that scum being aware of how bad he looks who's trying to bring up points before town can bring it up? I don't see how that is scummy. You saw how hard I pushed grack and I would've done it again if I could. I even said the same thing as BH after the day one lynch. I dislike BH for a few reasons, but that's not one of them. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
The way you're trying to apply them does not reflect the events that actually went down. Things such as: - "grack lynch went unopposed". It was actually really close. - "rayns vote is irrelevant". It was actually very crucial and I would say even more important than BHs vote. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Or at least interpreting in a way that I very strongly disagree with. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
na ah | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 22 2017 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i really shouldn't. The case(s) on him are very weak and based on stuff that i don't think make logically sense. Knowing what Grackaroni flipped and the way people on sicklucker pushed (or rather the lack of it) him. I'll write a more detailed answer in a bit, got friends visiting right now. This is bullshit and you know it. You are defending him by proxy with this "there were shit cases on him" without even analyzing his play which is very different from the town!SL you should know. You just pick the 1 bad sounding point Rels brought up (SL pushing a lynch day1) and claim that it invalidates the whole SL push. Very scummy thing to do. I am eagerly awaiting your explanation of how the Grack flip makes SL town but: You are probably mafia. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 22 2017 23:22 disformation wrote: @chez: why are you scumreading sl again? He is not towny. Town!SL often uses bullshit logic but he usually arrives at decent conclusions. Yet he is pushing this town in a very bad direction without ever reevaluating. Rels brought good stuff up yesterday and also during the night. HF was extremely convinced SL is mafia and I very much respect his reads. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
i was doc. sl for some weird mechanical reason was 100% convinced there would be a vet. in a setup where mafia knows the roles. easy tr.  | ||
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