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On June 15 2017 04:14 Koshi wrote:
I can you can't.
Wait what?
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On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh.
Can I ask why?
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On June 15 2017 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar can i grab a list post pls
Not sure what this means.
You want a list of reads?
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On June 15 2017 04:33 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:30 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar can i grab a list post pls Not sure what this means. You want a list of reads? 👍yes
K, I'll write some more thoughts when I get to a keyboard.
For now I'll give you my top town/scum:
Scum: koshi.
Town: sicklucker.
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Oh, and koshi being scum means HF is town. So he makes the town list too.
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On June 15 2017 04:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I eagerly await your explanation of sicklucker as your top town. I understand phone posting is shitty so i will wait for a keyboard
This one is easy to explain.
Hard claiming cop with a positive scum read is suicide if you are mafia.
If in whatever circumstance eversince is exposed to be town, then sicklucker would be an autolynch.
I think that's a fast way to throw the game as mafia.
It's not a play I would make as mafia, therefore I think he is town.
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On June 15 2017 04:50 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:48 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 04:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. breaking character to state that this is the scummiest post in the thread so far for me At least you kept it up for such a long time :D dont worry, the story will continue when actually interesting things happen
Such as?
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On June 15 2017 04:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. meh. I don't think mafia keeps it up like he did. It's hard.
The HF I know goes balls deep as mafia. Totally relentless.
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koshi, is palmar still your strongest scum read?
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On June 15 2017 05:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 05:24 ruXxar wrote:
koshi, is palmar still your strongest scum read? He is not a scumread because he has done nothing scummy. I do not know who is scum atm.
Then why are you voting for him?
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On June 15 2017 06:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 06:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
You really think that amount of tonedeafness is towny koshi?
It's not townie, like it doesn't buy him towncred. I just believe it comes from a townie rather than a mafia. I don't like to say it like this but I will: He looks more like a newb being happy and trying to play to game, than a veteran mafia player pretending to be clueless and gathering activity and steering the thread in the wrong direction. Now I don't know how a newb mafia player would play, but I don't think I have seen them play like Ruxxar is playing here. And I saw he already has some games under his belt but I just don't see it atm.
This is the second time you are dead on explaining my actions. Almost as if you are reading my mind.
I get a very eerie feeling from this, chills down my back.
Either you have too much information and know I am town, therefore you can be so confident in your town read of me.
Or you are just damn good at reading me.
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On June 15 2017 06:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 06:26 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 06:13 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 06:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
You really think that amount of tonedeafness is towny koshi?
It's not townie, like it doesn't buy him towncred. I just believe it comes from a townie rather than a mafia. I don't like to say it like this but I will: He looks more like a newb being happy and trying to play to game, than a veteran mafia player pretending to be clueless and gathering activity and steering the thread in the wrong direction. Now I don't know how a newb mafia player would play, but I don't think I have seen them play like Ruxxar is playing here. And I saw he already has some games under his belt but I just don't see it atm. This is the second time you are dead on explaining my actions. Almost as if you are reading my mind. I get a very eerie feeling from this, chills down my back.Either you have too much information and know I am town, therefore you can be so confident in your town read of me. Or you are just damn good at reading me. Being townread is scary when you know you're being a scummy duck?
Not scary, weird.
His read seems to be at odds with a lot of people, and it's interesting that with the noose closing in at his neck, he doesn't join the wagon on me which probably would spell my death.
If it wasn't for koshi defending me, I feel like I would be the primary lynch target.
That's how I read the general thread sentiment.
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On June 15 2017 08:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 06:07 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 06:00 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.
It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities. ^ This. Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker. Who is voting him for that reason? That was the impression I got. The closest I could find was you pressuring him over the read and other people calling him out for too easily believing SL's cop claim. Looking over, the main reason people are scum reading him is over saying that he liked Disfo's post, which was kind of a strange post to like because it had no content. But I don't think this is a bad response at all for the post that he made: On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!
omw to work yada yada etc.
agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.
hrre is hoping for a slow day at work. Strong first post. I like  You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting? Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there. First post conf town, goos shit there. Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other?? Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter. Very good post here. It's not the content as much as the tone and structure. Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern. I'd give that a slight town read. I don't think he's mafia. He has a confidence to his posts that I like. He not only believed sl's cop claim (which was made a post after sl said the tl meta is to piss people off and get reads) he used the cop claim to say we should lynch into ever and then sl if ever comes up green. He then has the inconsistency that koshi explained for him giving him an easy out. This is circumstantial of course and not that strong. He then comes into the thread after a wagon has formed on koshi and says 'i read koshis filter he's scum' with no explanation until he was pressured into giving one. He then (after the votes are on him) goes on to say that sicklucker who has like 4 posts with 0 content is his top town because scum wouldn't fake claim cop as though he hadn't noticed that everyone took it as a joke. Exactly. Why would that be his gameplan as mafia? On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!
omw to work yada yada etc.
agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.
hrre is hoping for a slow day at work. Strong first post. I like On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. On June 15 2017 04:48 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 04:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I eagerly await your explanation of sicklucker as your top town. I understand phone posting is shitty so i will wait for a keyboard This one is easy to explain. Hard claiming cop with a positive scum read is suicide if you are mafia. If in whatever circumstance eversince is exposed to be town, then sicklucker would be an autolynch. I think that's a fast way to throw the game as mafia. It's not a play I would make as mafia, therefore I think he is town. All these 3 posts are more likely coming from a genuine townie than a mafia failing to blend in. What you are not taking into account is that he is extremely townie as town. I played or obsed probably all his games and he was always super logical and always trying. Here he is not. Here he makes easy posts.
This is true.
Other people also mentioned that I played nothing like my usual meta and thats fine.
My head hasnt been 100% in the game on day 1.
Mostly just skimming posts.
Tomorrow i have a goal to do some indepth studies and produce a thorough read list.
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Ok so I'm starting on my filterdives.
I'll just go down the player list and make up my opinion:
Darthfoley: strong town.
- not afraid to stick his neck out.
- doesn't need to follow thread sentiment, makes up his own mind
- persistent in his views on xata and not afraid to bring it up time and again when he could just be silent going under the radar.
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Holyflare: strong town.
- conversation starters
- follow up inquiries
- wants to keep discussion going.
- not 100% tunneled, considers other options(vivax)
- even after determining someone is scummy he makes follow up questions to reaffirm his beliefs.
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So I'm home from work and got some time.
Heres a list after reading all filters.
Strong town:
HF - Leading thread discussion.
beentheredonethat - like the confidence and assertiveness
darthfoley - confrontational, unafraid.
FF - asks a lot of questions, follows up.
Could lynch
annul - total disinterest in the game
The rest are undecided.
Now back to the thread..
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On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks
This list kinda reeks to me.
A lot of these people are on my scum radar.
I'm especially interested in what makes you think these people are town:
rels, grack, annul.
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On June 16 2017 00:46 Holyflare wrote:
Another guy hard town reading me after he got carried by me as mafia dodging a red check and knows my capabilities. Would lynch ruxxar.
You think I'm underestimating you?
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Tumbleweed just climbed up on my scum list.
Things are getting clearer now.
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EPT
