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On June 14 2017 23:26 darthfoley wrote: How is ruXxar not scummy? Who are you scum reading? He demoted that disfo thing to a tone liking/soft townread which is fine. | ||
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Mainly cuz I want town Palmar to step up if he's town and I don't think anyone is being objectively scummy. rayn being mafia is too high level for me i guess i just can't get my head around it. | ||
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On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote: Town TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious. Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it. Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had. Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town. Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia. Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia. Town with minus points. Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action. Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm Null Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up. haha nice one I thought no one noticed that... | ||
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EBWOP | ||
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Grack feels a little wierd. Him defending ruxxar I couldn't understand. On June 15 2017 06:00 Grackaroni wrote: That was the impression I got. The closest I could find was you pressuring him over the read and other people calling him out for too easily believing SL's cop claim. Looking over, the main reason people are scum reading him is over saying that he liked Disfo's post, which was kind of a strange post to like because it had no content. But I don't think this is a bad response at all for the post that he made: I don't think he's mafia. He has a confidence to his posts that I like. I don't think there is a world where Grack misses + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2017 23:32 Vivax wrote: Someone tell me this is just a minor inconsistency? Now lets consider a case where Grack is scumhunting: If Ruxxar is mafia, he probably panicked when I called him out and Vivi caught his inconsistency. He needs buddies defending him with soft stuff like this (Koshi & Grack) If Ruxxar is town, he has few votes on him for a legit point, other accusations based on tr on sl now look very bad. Practically mafia just hopping on the vagon. If grack is picking up on this, wouldn't the logical thing to do is call them out aswell? (I don't even know who are you talking about btw, fefe?) Actually looking he's probably just not trying at this point, just replying to Fefe. But a lazy way to defend Ruxxar noted. | ||
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Rels posted reads which is nice. | ||
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On June 15 2017 07:19 Palmar wrote: I could possibly kill sicklucker. The upside is large as nothing he has said looks townie. The "I'm just trying to trigger ppls lulz" post is kinda bad actually. The downside is small as he's anti-town no matter his alignment late game because he's just not very good at this game. Going after the low hanging fruit is not his usual trend tho. I can prolly just stay on Palmar. | ||
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On June 15 2017 21:59 Skynx wrote: Palmar still lurking, [he reads] Damdred and Vivi town for obv reasons. Going after the low hanging fruit is not his usual trend tho. I can prolly just stay on Palmar. EBWOP. I agree on those reads, they are fairly out there as townies. | ||
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On June 15 2017 16:29 disformation wrote: good morning everyone. @rayn: lemme explain the palmar thing: Palmar never answers the question. Koshis vote reminded me of that. hear hear | ||
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Really? Because he has been involved in every case and accusation so far in the game? He's scumhunting non stop. | ||
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Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread. Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions. Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls. | ||
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On June 15 2017 22:45 darthfoley wrote: This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game. I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads I mean there is gona be disagreements but for now if that 8-10 people work together mafia is gona have a tough time no matter what. So for the sake of argument, Vivax and you having same reads, you're prolly thinking in same pattern and both town  I'm not a fan of killing afk/one posters D1, which i kinda supported when i first started playing. Mainly because if left alive, they feel the pressure and step up D2, either producing well content and joining town or slipping and getting lynched. Meanwhile D1 we actually lynch someone who has gave us some sort of information. All things considered, there is gotta be one mafia in annul/grack/fefe/ruxxar/xata. I'm reading Xata now. | ||
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On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote: My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince. + Show Spoiler + ruxxar: - "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it. - buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible. Skynx: - good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it". Koshi: - didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad. - called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad. - good post on BTBT being bad - a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere - p35. Lock town. disfo: - pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check. - had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around. rayn: - picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good. Vivax: - entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good. - liking the annul's post I liked. Good. BTDT: - called Koshi town for no reason - turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi - townie posts though (p 21) annul: - calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good DF: - also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI. - nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic. Damdred: - weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite. - though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie. FF: - liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it. Eversince: - answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post. Grack: - weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good. Xata: - good post on ruxxar. rayn: - LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town. This mainly, disagree with some of the reads here but decided to give him a pass. Might be a rash decision but when i gather thoughts on others i might update the list. | ||
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He seems to be pretty mixed up in the whole me calling out ruxxar and followup from there thing, eventually voting ruxxar deeming there is enough stuff on him. + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2017 03:44 Xatalos wrote: Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar: 1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation. 2) This post... ...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would). 3) Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever? - - - All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar. What's not fine is that he's not revealing ANYTHING at all. I mean there are absolutely no reads other than ruxxar. He has a 3 page filter but not a list, one scumread, no townreads. Lets say he lasts a few days and D3 we analyze him, his D1 will look like he did nothing while being around all the time and having a 3 page filter. This is kinda worse than Palmar. On June 15 2017 03:12 Xatalos wrote: Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary. For example here you can see him pretending to be interested but instead of "hey x why do you think Koshi is mafia?" we get the bolded, and no follow up. Filter is pretty much just thoughts like this. On June 15 2017 03:34 Xatalos wrote: For rayn, it's mostly just that he's been very lackluster/passive so far. The worst thing that stood out to me was how he just talked about "Koshi not being mafia" though everybody was speculating about Koshi being 3P at that point. It's like he didn't even read what people said about Koshi and made his conclusion anyway. He's following the game, but no thoughts on the situation. If you're kinda null, just tell. If you think rayn is town at least say so, don't have to defend him maybe but it will prompt people to ask you questions and so on. He is playing a pretty risk-free game. Props to DF for spotting him earlier on, very lynchable. | ||
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On June 15 2017 23:46 Holyflare wrote: I honestly have no idea how I'm town read by 90% of the game tbfh. Calling you town is a stretch I'll admit but you're here and doing work, in your own way. All the conversation you spark up might lead to something maybe who knows. | ||
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On June 16 2017 00:02 Holyflare wrote: If it's a stretch why am I in your town circle though? Koshi is weird to you and he isn't but now calling me town is a stretch, so I should be similar to a Koshi read, but I'm in your town circle? You're right he actually should be there. Thing is, you play like this all the time. Koshi is an absolute town leader when he is motivated and town. He rolled mafia like 4 times where he played totally different to how he normally plays, so his mafia play is out there, while writing that list i was thinking like "ok lets put him null for now and identify him tomorrow or something". | ||
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On June 16 2017 00:03 Holyflare wrote: Also where is Eversince interested in the game? Who are Eversince's scum reads? Or even town reads for that matter. I got that impression when I was reading through the game. Re-reading him now filter is kinda weak. | ||
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