EPTOn June 17 2017 20:39 Xatalos wrote:
In any case, now I'll be off for some time. Gl & hf
In any case, now I'll be off for some time. Gl & hf
I don't get your defeatist stance. There might be a medic, disformation might be the roleblocker.
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
I don't get your defeatist stance. There might be a medic, disformation might be the roleblocker. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 17 2017 22:16 darthfoley wrote: Also couple that with the fact a dumb cop might CC Xat instinctively and I'm left with a pretty optimal fake claim play by someone who was already going to die. Why not go 1-1 with confirmed town/cop if you can? Exactly. That is also why Xatalos will have to put in effort to avoid being lynched. He should at least earn that cc if he is mafia. We should not give it to him as a present. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote: SL is like a 80% chance of being mafia. While xatalos / disfo is like a 50/50. I rather go for the safer option. Lynching outside the 2 is 100 % the wrong play. Yes, it is sad that the day will be a little less productive but if you do not resolve this issue now then you are only postponing it. Personally I have to say that this development is really convenient. I apparently caught a cold and it is annoyingly hard to concentrate on this (still not caught up). So everything that makes this day easier or gives me an excuse not to care that much is very welcome. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote: I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point) how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:05 ruXxar wrote: I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna go for a 50/50 when I know that SL is very likely scum and is gonna be a problem. Hes almost certainly the scum leader, instructing them on what to do. Just look how he setup the wagon on annul last cycle. If we take out the scum leader, the rest are easy pickings. If Mr. Sicklucker is the scum leader then I am not very concerned. No offense. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote: 1. Mafia is a guessing game. 2. Mislynches happen super often 3. The moment a claim happens, it's the last way for the lynchee to avert his lynch So a) lynch cop b) lynch check, most likely lose a vt, real cop survives not sure how "lynch cop" is the better option here Where is the difference between losing a VT and an outed cop? | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote: this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here) This anecdotal evidence is not very convincing. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:16 beentheredonethat wrote: An outed cop can be protected at night, is a confirmed town and an enforced mafia target. A vt is a vt. Think about it with a little more effort. If we lynch Xatalos and he is mafia then disfo is also basically confirmed town, can be protected and is an enforced mafia target. As long as scum has a roleblocker (which is very likely) there is 0 difference. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:17 beentheredonethat wrote: One day I'll understand why "lynch the cop" is better than "lynch the red-check" one day It isn't. But you need to consider the circumstances and this claim is incredibly fishy. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:20 beentheredonethat wrote: Why would mafia claim when there are like 5 votes on him? now it's more due to the claim and apparently everybody's fine with it. if everybody's fine with something, it's probably scum. Seriously? Maybe because if we do what you say we lynch a townie, mafia survives a day and in the best case the real cop gets outed on top of it. Seems like a very good trade off compared to just going down without all of that. In cases like this there is often an uncontested wagon on mafia. Why do I have to explain basics like this... | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:20 beentheredonethat wrote: You're throwing so many dumbtells it's hard to believe they are genuine Agreed. The guy is really all over the place. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:24 beentheredonethat wrote: Wait. "If we do what you say we lynch a townie." - TMI. "Mafia survives a day." And how is it the best case if the real cop gets outed for town? This sentence only makes sense from mafia perspective. Jesus christ... You ask "why would mafia claim" and I show you why mafia would claim. And then you act all confused. Why am I even bothering with this? | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:28 beentheredonethat wrote: That's a lie. You're not answering my "Why would mafia claim when there are like 5 votes on him?" question. You are clearly saying "if we do what you say". That is exactly what I am answering and the second sentence of your post does not contradict this in any way. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:31 disformation wrote: i think the first quote was supposed to be a btdt one I seriously hope so. I have a limited tolerance for stupidity and he is currently really pushing the limit in this regard. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:34 beentheredonethat wrote: I am not using Chez's phrasing. You should actually try to read why I scumread Chez here. Maybe you should read my post again and try to understand it this time. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote: I don't believe for a second that he's cop but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town. Ok, makes sense. Forgive me for calling you stupid. This is genius. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:43 beentheredonethat wrote: No. It's like "I think you're lying, but as long as there's a chance you're not, I'm not lynching you over the red-check you claimed". Then fakeclaiming scum can never lose against you. I will make sure to remember this should I ever roll mafia against you. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:43 beentheredonethat wrote: because HEY GUYS IT'S A BLUE, IT'S THE COP, AND WE HAVE 2312321321 PLAYERS IN AND ONLY A MINORITY IS ACTIVE of course I prefer the potential VT loss over the potential COP loss thefuck is wrong with you people I already showed you why there is no difference between the potential VT loss and the potential COP loss. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:45 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm pretty sure that oversimplifying my words will make you right. situation: xata no pressure claims red check OHHHH EVERY LYNCH XATA ah who am I to care about this. Ok, at this point I will have to assume you are just trolling. Holy shit. | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 18 2017 07:49 beentheredonethat wrote: Ok guys. Enjoy your shit flinging, keep up the good work  see you in like 3 days or soBye bye! Make sure to return before mafia shoot you for your mad detective skillz! | ||
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