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On June 23 2017 22:26 disformation wrote:
well. havent reread rayn yet.
but if va, fefe, chezi, rayn and me are town...
that really points to the afk/trolls.
*points at Skynx, Eversince, Palmar, BH/Ruxxar
I think this is solved
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On June 23 2017 22:35 disformation wrote:
you forgot about tw
oh right
but he's all on Palmar and I think that's good
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On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.
He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.
I can't trust any of his reads or theories.
Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened?
Yeah that's exactly the guy.
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On June 23 2017 22:45 ruXxar wrote:
Skynx I want to say is town.
I felt his reaction was genuine when I pissed him off.
THAT'S SO SUPER BULLSHIT LOL
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On June 23 2017 22:46 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.
He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.
I can't trust any of his reads or theories. Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened? Yeah that's exactly the guy. Sure, but this is beyond bad: Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 3 Grackaroni (9): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet, disformation, Palmar, Eversince sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo, GrackaroniPalmar (2): disformation, Grackaroni, disformation, Fecalfeast VayneAuthority (1): Grackaroni disformation (0): disformationRels (0): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, SkynxFecalfeast (0): TumblewoodSkynx (0): Palmar, Skynxraynpelikoneet (0): RelsruXxar (0): Blazinghandbeentheredonethat (0): disformationHalf the Sky is throwing Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar. Observations: 1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon 2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand 3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon) 4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo 5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast) re: 1) Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have. My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here. Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time) Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3) Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn I hope I didn't forget anyone. re: 2) These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that: Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn So without further ado, they come into the scum pool. re: 3) Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in. Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority re: 4) Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum. Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid. re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.
That's actually a decent piece of work which is flawed. And so we talked about it. There is that slight difference in "hey, that's false, let's discuss" and "this is a piece of shit"
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On June 23 2017 23:06 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 23 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 22:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 23 2017 22:46 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.
He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.
I can't trust any of his reads or theories. Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened? Yeah that's exactly the guy. Sure, but this is beyond bad: On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 3 Grackaroni (9): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet, disformation, Palmar, Eversince sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo, GrackaroniPalmar (2): disformation, Grackaroni, disformation, Fecalfeast VayneAuthority (1): Grackaroni disformation (0): disformationRels (0): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, SkynxFecalfeast (0): TumblewoodSkynx (0): Palmar, Skynxraynpelikoneet (0): RelsruXxar (0): Blazinghandbeentheredonethat (0): disformationHalf the Sky is throwing Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar. Observations: 1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon 2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand 3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon) 4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo 5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast) re: 1) Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have. My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here. Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time) Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3) Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn I hope I didn't forget anyone. re: 2) These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that: Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn So without further ado, they come into the scum pool. re: 3) Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in. Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority re: 4) Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum. Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid. re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird. That's actually a decent piece of work which is flawed. And so we talked about it. There is that slight difference in "hey, that's false, let's discuss" and "this is a piece of shit" Well it didn't seem like you would change your mind when three people told you that it was incorrect: On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight "votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand" Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table. I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this? On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight "votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand" Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table. I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this? You don't have your facts straight. Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it and also call me bad as town!rayn would On June 22 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 23:15 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 23:09 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 21:57 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
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"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.
I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this? You don't have your facts straight. Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it and also call me bad as town!rayn would Rayn and BH are right. You are misrepresenting how the voting went down, and final vote count is absolutely not represenatitve of what the situation looked like. Therefore your analysis is pretty much void. The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree? The hammer votes was BH and Rayn. Anyone who was reading the thread at the time can confirm that. Well then BH Who's all defensive about himself voting Grack, like "I did it and I stand by having done so" and who's pointing to himself as being the hammer. Is that scum being aware of how bad he looks who's trying to bring up points before town can bring it up? Dude you really think that makes him mafia? Because i think the opposite. He is pushing insane shit and basically begging to be lynched. Thats not how mafia plays. Idk if you have played with him before but thats always how btdt gets lynched. I'm saying I can't trust any of his reads, not that he is mafia.
That's so super fishy
I am one of the most active persons in the game. I fell of a bit but I am trying to contribute as good as I can.
So a) you can take what I bring up, not trust it but at least draw your own conclusions or b) dismiss what I bring up without reacting to it. This is ignorance and doesn't bring us any way further. It feels like you're coasting super hardcore.
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On June 23 2017 23:21 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.
Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer. I could lynch TW. I could lynch Eversince. I could lynch Palmar. Disfo is ?? BTDT is ?? Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today. Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town. If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work.
I don't understand how you do not trust my reads but pull Eversince and Palmar out of my scum list and are super happy to lynch them. And the double question marks on disfo - like WTF either you townread him by now due to sheer effort put into the game OR you scumread him for being still alive or whatever reasons you have
but there's no way you have a null on disfo. same on me - you say you don't trust my reads but you're not pushing me, nor are you townreading me.
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On June 23 2017 23:26 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 23 2017 23:21 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.
Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer. I could lynch TW. I could lynch Eversince. I could lynch Palmar. Disfo is ?? BTDT is ?? Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today. Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town. If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work. I don't understand how you do not trust my reads but pull Eversince and Palmar out of my scum list and are super happy to lynch them. And the double question marks on disfo - like WTF either you townread him by now due to sheer effort put into the game OR you scumread him for being still alive or whatever reasons you have but there's no way you have a null on disfo. same on me - you say you don't trust my reads but you're not pushing me, nor are you townreading me. You think you're the first person to think up this novel idea that they look scummy? That they haven't looked scummy all game? Come on, you are better than that.
I am fairly certain that I am the only one continuesly scumreading them since N2/D3. Might be my own perception but this is where thoughts began to form in my had.
Why do you have "??" on disfo and me?
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ok, so to get this straight: the tracker said that sicklucker tracked Tumblewood and Chez and they returned opposite alignments.
I can buy that.
Why is Fecalfeast still 100% town?
##vote Tumblewood
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On June 23 2017 10:05 Tumblewood wrote:
what kind of crazy land are you living in where a 3-4 man team misses their night actions
If Tumble flips read I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happened last night :D
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On June 25 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:
Next I want to lynch palmar.
Nah Skynx
On June 25 2017 03:02 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 03:51 Skynx wrote:On June 21 2017 03:48 Chezitwo wrote:On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:On June 20 2017 21:23 Rels wrote:
SL / BH
rayn / ruxxar / Skynx
Palmar / Chezitwo / VA
ES / FF / Tumble / Grack
BTDT / disfo
That makes me feel good. This makes sense. So there are 5 scumreads here, lets see the reasonings behind them. On June 20 2017 21:20 Rels wrote:
OK I'm done with my free time. Let's get a wagon starting on sicklucker.
##Vote sicklucker On June 20 2017 20:54 Rels wrote:sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter. On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn i said very slightly convincing plz... And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect. + it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did: On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote:On June 16 2017 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.
Not like I Rels out from a mile away na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too + after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon". I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious. Meta read is irrelevant here, sl is just a troll he can do anything in D1 and wouldn't prolly be ai. Second point is very ironic yeah i dunno whats your point here? If you're scumreading sl for that doesn't that makes you scum aswell??? You became everyone's main target because your filter was bad until today started basically. I can kinda see why he tr you earlier with your early list and everything. Are you just bussing sl?? On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere Pretty much all about BH to make him his equally hardest scumread. On June 20 2017 21:16 Rels wrote:On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery
I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.
Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax
Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred Don't like the bolded though. An easy list to make the seems good but does nothing. On June 20 2017 02:10 Skynx wrote:Starting my annul train series with the first trio of sl/ruxxar/fefe On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul On June 16 2017 03:11 sicklucker wrote:
##vote annul i agree nice ninja ff you get a cheap townread. I just voted him after reading his filter
Got one boys and im super trendy because no one voted him yet so bonus points On June 16 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul I'm down. On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.
i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas. Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point. Don't know where to begin... On June 20 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote:
Everyone on the train had terrible reasons for voting annul. Makes it kinda harder to analyze, scum could be all there tbf. No one had an outstanding read on Xata either, mainly this and that. All 6 I'd lynch 1 by 1 except Ruxxar maybe as he's picking up the game. On June 20 2017 02:30 Skynx wrote:
One thing I noted tho, when it was 6-5 to annul, Eversince came late into thread and claimed he's clueless with that post but he took another 12 mins to think about who to vote.
From a town point, if you're clueless, making the train 6-6 shouldn't really bother you but if you're scum you're literally offering your RB on a silver platter. On June 20 2017 02:47 Skynx wrote:
I feel like few votes on him and Grack will start spilling all the beans. And this looks like he started fabricating a vote analyze but didn't know how to do it. There is nothing there. Like the bolded above, he points that every reasonning is bad and he wants to lynch every player. No game solving there. Not trying to push game forward and all. I didn't understand anything from rayn interaction, I assume they are disagreeing on reads? Ruxxar pretty much the same I don't get the sr but apparently you sr him from very early on, why not vote him when he had bunch of people on him?? There is a general lack of structure in these scumreads, he reads the game thats for sure but he just quotes posts and makes up bunch of reasons out of nowhere. Lets look at the townreads, I actually found the one about Grack On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote:
but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely This is just laughable, Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game along with ES and gets the easiest tr based on something so superficial. On June 20 2017 20:27 Rels wrote:On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic looooool never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him. Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum. More easy tr's, did you even read rest of btdt filter? He's not making 1 bit of sense since start of the game and above post can be very easily fabricated by mafia. I don't even think I'd come up with this one if i was really trying hard to tr btdt. Concluding point: On June 20 2017 21:00 Rels wrote:Actually I just did. On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim. They are more likely town if SL is mafia. or what do you mean? believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim this is kinda townie Nothing else stands out of to me as town or scum. The activity is bad ofc though. I want him to play more. Mind you he makes a similar post about me but I'm still scum and TW is town???? On June 20 2017 21:08 Rels wrote:On June 16 2017 03:39 Skynx wrote:
Koshi is not screaming and calling this town shit, he might be mafia actually this is kinda townie. Weird thing to say to a town leader that is obviously not getting lynched Like wtf? He just finds reasons in his universe that makes someone town or scum but apparently they don't apply to everyone in same value. It is most clearly seen in sl and simple tr on me and tw. I just can't follow any of his reads, sorry.##Vote: Rels Is it just me or is this last line really out of place? And if Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game how come you aren't on board with killing him? On June 21 2017 03:36 Skynx wrote:Disfo might be mafia at this point purely cuz of association. Him not dying after N2 is just madness. Framing redcheck on him by fellow mafia for pure WIFOM. Now that there is only me and him on original Xata train, he accuses me for being mafia whereas his main reason for voting Xata is sheeping my case and he has absolutely no idea on Xata otherwise. On June 16 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:On June 16 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar. Excuse me? you are a pretty big question mark. skynx and df are big town reads. skynx had a good post on xata On June 16 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:
Disformation voting Xatalos when annul is moving up the lynchlist.
Interesting? On June 16 2017 03:43 Koshi wrote:
@disformation
Where do you have anything on Xatalos in your filter? On June 16 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts? This is also a really bad post. There is literally nothing insane about disformation surviving the night. Grack will die dw, Rels is looking worse to me right now since he's revealed a bit more by being more active through this day. There is a chance Grack is just town who doesn't give two shits about this game but reading through Rels I'm sure I found mafia. Nice ridicule, you apparently ignored his actions on EOD and why he vote. Any thoughts on that? Any thoughts on Rels? You practically ignored everything i said... skynx could you explain that in a bit more detail? and why did rels get to be town again: Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 22:19 Skynx wrote:
Guess I'll play:
disfo, Rels, Ruxxar, rayn
chez
VA, fefe null, off chance one mafia here
Palmar 3P
Xata, SL, Grack, btdt + 1
last one prolly ES/TW
I'll freestyle from now on.
Look at this super sweed soft bus here. Flipped scum, town town town, town/scum.
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Confirmed town:
VA (Vig claim)
ES (Tracker claim)
There was more confirmed town by the ES claimed but I forgot, please help me out.
I think one of Rels/Ruxxar is scum. It just makes sense that one scummer is in who's active in the thread while the rest hides/hid in the afk pile. The afk pile has drastically been reduced, which is great, and Tumble's flip kinda confirms to me that the scum team is super low volume. I think Ruxxar looks actually worse than Rels but this is completely based on gut.
We should always lynch Skynx or 3-page-Palmar here, no questions asked. I think we have 2 or 3 mislynches left now that Tumble flipped. Mafia has 1KP, we even have a jailkeeper in. We're in a super position  .
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bah BH you should know I'm town by now
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It's super weird that you put super scummy skynx on your "meeeeehhh town" list at the super bottom and want to see me flip. It just doesn't make sense. It should be exactly the other way round although I'm expecting you to townread me correctly.
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even for the peasants who lynch un-cc'ed claims it should be pretty clear that there's no way to doubt these claims.
except if ES faked the tracks and bussed TW and we don't have a tracker at all, only a jailkeeper that was fooled.
no.
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On June 26 2017 17:57 disformation wrote:
even for the peasants that lynch the scum rb you mean? =D
but whatever. less setup more scum hunting.
two ways to defuse a bomb by cutting one of two cables
a) guess
b) use your brain and knowledge
guessing is 50:50, brain and knowledge is probably 90:10 or something
We got super lucky that we caught the scum RB early on and look at the waffling and the mislynches that happened after. This is a blue's game, without VA flipping SL and SL flipping parity cop we wouldn't have the situation we're in.
Basically, VA killed a blue and it was the best thing to happen
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On June 26 2017 19:14 Palmar wrote:Holy shit does beentheredonethat's filter look bad when considering Xatalos. Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 20:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata you're not saying anything in your posts, you're just commenting on things and speculating about 3rd party
that's superbad Two random comments with no meat on them and no real attempt to lynch the guy he's calling superbad and disappearing. Instead, when df offers a wagon on Xatalos, it's instead met with (weak) resistance: Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.
I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.
so I a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course) c) call out annul d) poke xata * and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn * a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread. how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever. While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons? Read the entire quote that follows. On what level are btdt's contributions helpful or insightful at all. Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. How is this an intelligent plan at all? #3 to say that (I think, maybe more) darth comes on the town pile. If he's the third person to say it why is he town?? TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect So passive aggressive but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, he also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too And through it all, btdt sits on Koshi, despite thinking koshi looks better and Xata worse: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.
I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.
Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.
Thats kind of where im at. btdt ended the day as a single random vote on Koshi instead of trying to kill his scumread. Then he bitched about it in the night: Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 14:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
bad thing: Koshi lynch averted
bad thing #2: annul being lynched over xata
good thing: xata being 2nd wagon
I think a scum!xata will give us lots of indication and I highly suggest xata to be shot at night. Maybe should have done something about that? I think there is about 100% chance btdt is mafia ##Vote beentheredonethatI'm not done with his filter, but this day 1 looks very much terrible. I was getting paranoid that I was being to lenient because like the first 4 people I read actually look like townies, but this guy doesn't look like a townie at all on first glance. Please give me reasons why I should townread him if anyone has any. To me this is almost a good enough case on it's own.
You're super misrepresenting my D1. You paint me saying "Koshi looks better" but like 2 posts later, I retract that and say "nope, he doesn't". This is actually me being townie since reconsidering and reevaluating are town traits.
You also interpret me talking about Xata as scummy which is super bullshit because I pretty much jumped on a lot of people. My whole D1 revolves around poking players, saying something about them, while focusing and settling on Koshi. You are painting a picture that is simply - false.
Basically, what Palmar is doing here is:
1. go to QT, say "meh, so many confirmed towns, we need 2-3 mislynches to win, so lets try btdt"
2. skynx is all happy about that
3. scrap together a "case" from a random, lazy filter dive
that's super poor and I'm glad you tell the world you're scum.
##vote Palmar
Palmar/Skynx are both scum. 120%.
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On June 26 2017 18:41 Palmar wrote:
Just read VA's filter. He's probably not mafia. Small chance of 3p obviously (just for having a killing role), but in general I don't think I have much interest in lynching him. While his filter is short it doesn't really scream mafia to me.
Do take my reads with a grain of salt btw, I am less involved than usual.
Super hard to say about a claimed role that he's probably not mafia.
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On June 26 2017 18:52 Palmar wrote:
I haven't finished ES's filter, but there's a few things here.
1) I read it right after VA's, because I kinda liked VA's "scummiest thing is to break character" line. But now I don't understand it. I have no idea what character ES was breaking.
2) ES made a big case on Xatalos. It probably wasn't needed I think? So there's a chance it was created just to appear to do something.
3) In that case I see Xatalos tried to fakeclaim a check on disformation. The only reason I'm suspicious of this being distancing rather than just a desperate clinging to straws, is that if I was on the mafia team, I'd immediately shoot a town disformation the next night, just to get rid of his activity and the fact a flipped mafia "spewed" him town. However, it is important to note I would _never_ suppose we try to lynch disfo at this point. If he is mafia, we simply look for the other two mafia. His sheer activity is too much to justify basically ever lynching him. And he is, even if you can question it, spewed town by Xatalos.
4) ES doesn't really sound like mafia. I don't read his posts and come across thinking he's overly careful or reserved.
In conclusion, unless I run out of people to lynch, I am removing ES, VA and Disfo from the lynch list today. (There's no way I'm reading Disfo's filter).
The cheapest town reads in the game, overexlained.
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On June 26 2017 19:03 Palmar wrote:
I'm gonna give rayn's filter a pause (I've maybe read bottom 20-30% of it) and read btdt.
"I'll stop trying to create a fake case on rayn and instead fake case btdt because that might be easier"
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