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On June 23 2017 08:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
There are semi opens for sure where mafia are told the exact setup
On June 23 2017 08:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well then shut up fecalfeast you idiot
are you talking to yourself?
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On June 23 2017 08:46 Chezitwo wrote:
But none of this really matters since you can easily identify me as town anyways and the bonus is FF has a very good chance of being town too and we also do not have to lynch SL for playing terribly due to being a role.
yeah actually SL being shot was in a sense super good
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Hey Palmar come out and talk to me you coward
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On June 23 2017 08:48 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah I think "Mafia knew the setup" is a weird assumption to make, like it's the kind of assumption that's obviously false
that you might make
if you were trying to pretend not to be mafia
by pretending to think something that mafia obviously wouldn't think
dumbtell
yes
it returns This wasn't a good argument in Rels case and it hasn't become any better.
this was kinda a joke sorry
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On June 23 2017 08:48 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:48 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah I think "Mafia knew the setup" is a weird assumption to make, like it's the kind of assumption that's obviously false
that you might make
if you were trying to pretend not to be mafia
by pretending to think something that mafia obviously wouldn't think
dumbtell
yes
it returns This wasn't a good argument in Rels case and it hasn't become any better. this was kinda a joke sorry
actually not sorry it was a highly solid joke
man is it possible you and FF are town, I had you as town before today
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On June 23 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is the lynch today
I was townreading Ruxxar, what's the "reasoning" here
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On June 23 2017 08:49 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:
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Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?! Quote please. Apologies if you didn't but someone definitely did and it sounds like something you would say. I will not look for it this late.
It was FecalFeast
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On June 23 2017 08:51 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:49 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:
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I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop".
I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?! Quote please. Apologies if you didn't but someone definitely did and it sounds like something you would say. I will not look for it this late. It was FecalFeast Joke again? Can't tell. What I mean was way way earlier in the game.
oh sorry i thought you meant just now
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On June 23 2017 08:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
The only fear I have is that if I'm mafia and have a framer I'd want marvs slot framed every night. Such an obvious copcheck
I actually think Chez has been doing fine, was not SRing him or even really thinking about lynching him
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On June 15 2017 01:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim. They are more likely town if SL is mafia. or what do you mean? believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim Ok. So is it confirmed mafia knows the setup?
On June 15 2017 05:31 Koshi wrote:
1)darthfoley
3)Palmar
4)Rels
7)Tumblewood (do we know mafia knows the setup or did he slip?)
11)raynpelikoneet
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
18)annul
20)sicklucker
21)ruXxar
22)Eversince
On June 15 2017 05:35 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 05:34 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 05:33 Tumblewood wrote:
what do you mean about me slipping? why do you think mafia knows the setup? i don't?
On June 15 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim. They are more likely town if SL is mafia. or what do you mean? believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim What do you mean then? If they are mafia without information there is really no problem with them believing the claim. And if they are mafia with information they can still pretend so w.e But what do you mean with it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have
On June 15 2017 05:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 05:38 Tumblewood wrote:On June 15 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim. They are more likely town if SL is mafia. or what do you mean? believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim What do you mean then? If they are mafia without information there is really no problem with them believing the claim. And if they are mafia with information they can still pretend so w.e But what do you mean with it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have when i said that i meant they know the scumteam. so if they see sl claiming a red check, unless they are scum with eversince they should know he's bullshitting hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok I understand what you were trying to say.
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I'm actually reasonably pissed at Palmar right now but I think we have more important shit to deal with than Palmar.
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Here's like all of Palmar's post in the last week:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
On June 16 2017 20:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 17:52 Holyflare wrote:
3P: koshi/palmar
How many 3Ps are there? I have way more flair when I'm 3p
On June 16 2017 20:26 Palmar wrote:
I'm just playing single player mafia mostly. Occasionally clicking filters, ignoring the thread, throwing out some opinions.
Life is good.
I'll try to maybe make my statement posts a bit more detailed when I cba.
On June 19 2017 03:36 Palmar wrote:
Ill figure out why we're all so happy together tomorrow
On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!
I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.
I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.
Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent.
On June 20 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 22:41 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure. Yeah, basically this. But we should not allow Palmar to keep this up either regardless of his alignment. Surely the stern facial expression will make me snap out of it.
On June 20 2017 22:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!
I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.
I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.
Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent. So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on. Yes, that is exactly what I am claiming.
On June 20 2017 22:50 Palmar wrote:
my top lyncherios atm:
skynx, btdt and sicklucker.
On June 20 2017 22:57 Palmar wrote:
I voted for skynx. He sounds distinctly less towny than he did the last game i played with him. I'm not complaining that the content is different, he just sounds less sassy.
It's a weak vote atm, I'll probably read some more later.
On June 20 2017 22:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
the "marv disappears when he's scum" shit is actually valid, I can confirm that from Generic I (I think. Might've been one of the other games I hosted). The scum qt in this game is full of "omg I rolled scum" shit.
Then again, I haven't seen him post here around tl so I don't know how valid it is
also this is one of the few points Palmar can make because he's been absent basically. So I'd treat this with care. chezitwo appeared townie to me I have not read anything of Chezitwo's posts, it's very much just based on that. Which is why I don't particularly want to lynch him, it basically wouldn't be fair to the guy. I'm kinda hoping the situation resolves itself through a vigi shot or something.
On June 20 2017 22:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 22:58 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure. He did nothing townie, either. And a super bad reason to not lynch an obvious lurker. He managed to vote each cycle. He even comes in every now and then, throw accusations at people, doesn't follow up AND he freely admits to neither read nor care about this game. I don't know why we don't lynch (or shoot) such a player. To be fair, I freely admit to never reading any game I play. But yes, been extra lazy this game. Just had stuff to do.
On June 20 2017 23:00 Palmar wrote:
btdt actually upgraded based on really wanting me dead, I'm a sucker for people hating me.
On June 20 2017 23:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 23:01 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 23:00 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 00:40 Palmar wrote:
So I clicked two more filters.
beentheredonethat is strange. There's some weird stuff in his filter like gettin into an argument if he's carefree. But there's also some townie sounding, albeit not very useful stuff. He goes in the "could be either category"
AMG hasn't posted at all, lucky me that was an easy filter to read.
I still think voting sicklucker is a good idea and I'm gonna park my vote there. Btdt should probably sheep me as he thinks sicklucker's contributions are atrocious. Hey, Palmar, we have a sicklucker train going. You care? On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia. Hey, Palmar, this guy flipped town. On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!
I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.
I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.
Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent. On June 16 2017 00:41 Palmar wrote:
Btw, if we're killing inactive/modkill-territory people, we kill AMG, not marv. Hey, Palmar, lynch into the AMG slot instead of the slot where you're suspecting scum!marv? Ok the first two things are basically me bitching but the last one is valid and scummy I actually think the first things are better, especially being wrong (mildly... I never voted him) on darthfoley. The last part is completely irrelevant. I posted the first post on day 1 for very good reasons (marv is both a great player and a good friend of mine, so keeping him alive would always be optimal). However when it's clear marv isn't playing and is replaced by a smurf, I no longer have any personal attachments to the slot (ie, I really want to play with marv). So cold calculation leads me to believe it is not unlikely, based on something completely out of his control, that Chezitwo is mafia. However, as I already said, I do not really want to lynch him for that without suspecting him specifically (and not the slot), because it's an asshole thing to do. I didn't even know we had a train on sicklucker. Is there an actual case I can read somewhere? I read a few more posts of skynx, I think I'll be unvoting him, he has a few decent posts.
On June 20 2017 23:11 Palmar wrote:
Can someone also link to a case on Grack?
On June 21 2017 03:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 23:27 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote:On June 20 2017 22:41 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure. Yeah, basically this. But we should not allow Palmar to keep this up either regardless of his alignment. Surely the stern facial expression will make me snap out of it. Apparently it did :D On June 20 2017 22:46 Palmar wrote:On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!
I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.
I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.
Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent. So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on. Yes, that is exactly what I am claiming. How am I supposed to believe that a guy like this: On June 16 2017 07:40 Palmar wrote:On June 16 2017 07:37 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 07:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Shenannie onto marv?
😇I'm only half joking nha. 0 posts is not his mafia style. He has some dignity and respect for the game. He had, tbh. He's the guy who just quit a game because he rolled mafia, as much as I like him (I love the guy, he's by far guy I've interacted most with outside of mafia that I've met here) he has been rather sketchy in his appearances lately. If anything his silence does point to him being mafia (or simply having forgotten about the game). does not realize that marvs universal TL absence is obviously not connected to a mafia game he signed up for ages ago? Walk me through this. Do you actually believe marv would stop himself from posting on this forum because of this game? Not to mention that he stopped posting way before it started and he could know his alignment. marv barely posts outside tl mafia at all, like his entire tl existence is basically tl mafia.
On June 21 2017 03:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 23:45 disformation wrote:yeah i think i'll make a decent case on sl later. basically: creates the annul wagon via "read his filter didnt like it" pushes really hard (uncharacteristic for sl) has a false/bad xata town lean/read says xata might be town after all after flip aaaand: On June 16 2017 07:54 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 07:51 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point. sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia sl is mafia I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy xata doesn't have a mafia read on rayn, he said he can still be scum but doesn't actually say he scum reads him at all just remember this later ^ sicklucker being wrong is not really a scumtell.
On June 21 2017 04:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 03:42 Skynx wrote:
Palmar are you here? Wtf are you doing this game? enjoying life! Things are going fine, there's plenty of people stepping up and taking charge. I'm loving not having to whip people into shape for once.
On June 21 2017 04:13 Palmar wrote:
looks like Vivax wanted to kill Grack, he's the best player that's flipped so maybe I should trust him.
But then again, I like killing sl.
On June 21 2017 18:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 16:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
current main wagon:
Grackaroni (5): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority
D1 main wagon:
annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Ruxxar and Fecalfeast are voting together once more. Both rather townread people. Why was everyone so super sure on Fecalfeast again? I think there were valid points but don't remember.
VayneAuthority ended up on Skynx D1 and is now up on the Grack wagon after popping in for a while. So D1 a non-committal vote and D3 joining the wagon in a strong fashion (I think joining a wagon as #5/#6 has more weight than #1/#2) which gives me worries. What are VA's reasons?
Like, people from the annul wagon aren't exactly cleared. We're focusing on Rels, Grack, ES, but left out Ruxxar for a lot of time (for which exact reasons?)
Hmm Ruxxar, from what little I've read of him, kinda sounds like town, but it's not a strong read.
On June 22 2017 05:50 Palmar wrote:
In Vivax we trust
On June 22 2017 08:40 Palmar wrote:
I forgot Vivax is bad. That's on me
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Hey Palmar come fite me 1v1 u focking wot m8
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If they have a rolecop, they deffo checked him Night 2, because why not shoot him right away? If they checked him Night 1, they probably wanted to shoot him Night 2, right after their RB died and before he had any checks.
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On June 23 2017 09:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 09:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
so after some brief reactions, before this gets out of hand
I am town vig and shot SL. Mafia NK either got blocked by veteran or medic saved.
Im going to say its unlikely anyone currently posting is mafia as mafia is probably confused as fuck and waiting to see what happened.
so FF/Chez are probably confirmed town then.
My bad on the shot I guess, he was so close to getting lynched yesterday im surprised he never outright claimed when we likely have a doctor, oh well. Didnt feel like wasting another entire day on him
Good shot.
Yeah, agreed. Ok so scratch all my speculation, Chez and FeFe highly likely to be town.
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wait do we actually think VA is town, just to check? only one night kill came through, and I don't have a read on him because I haven't really been playing the game
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also it was night 3 and xat was an autolynch after D1, right? so why no N1 shot?
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On June 23 2017 03:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
I read a bunch of FF, tumblewood, and eversince games this morning and literally came away with nothing learned. FF posts really similar as town or scum, tumblewood hasn't posted enough to go off of and eversince could either be playing obvious mafia or just lynchbait. not enough has happened in this game to make people reveal much.
We are going into day 4 and have only had fake claims so far and little voting info, makes it really hard for me to figure out the game in my style.
im at something like
chez/dis/ruxxar/BH town
palmar/rels/tumblewood/btdt/rayn/skynx/sl neutral
FF/eversince mafia, and even then im not that confident on either
I see no real way to distinguish anything before we get a 2nd mafia flip either.
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ok what the dicks is going on here!?
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On June 23 2017 09:33 ruXxar wrote:
If VA is the vigi, and mafia missed their night actions, then I would say that VA is right that its highly unlikely that anyone active around deadline is mafia.
I would like to establish that these people were around at deadline:
Fecalfeast
Chezitwo
Disformation
Blazinghand
Ruxxar
VA - vigi
OH SHIT MAYBE MAFIA MISSED THEIR NIGHT ACTIONS
that would be HILARIOUS
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