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On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"?
The same way we just did. But I really doubt they were so sure without a rolecop.
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On June 23 2017 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:38 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? The same way we just did. But I really doubt they were so sure without a rolecop. the reason we know he's a parity cop is because he flipped parity cop
duh
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On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue"
Rolecop.
Other possibilities are that they just noticed how he "joked" about being cop 2 fucking times or that they found something different in his filter.
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On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia?
I doubt it to be honest.
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But none of this really matters since you can easily identify me as town anyways and the bonus is FF has a very good chance of being town too and we also do not have to lynch SL for playing terribly due to being a role.
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On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
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no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing.
I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?!
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On June 23 2017 08:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah I think "Mafia knew the setup" is a weird assumption to make, like it's the kind of assumption that's obviously false
that you might make
if you were trying to pretend not to be mafia
by pretending to think something that mafia obviously wouldn't think
dumbtell
yes
it returns
This wasn't a good argument in Rels case and it hasn't become any better.
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On June 23 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
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Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?! Quote please.
Apologies if you didn't but someone definitely did and it sounds like something you would say. I will not look for it this late.
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On June 23 2017 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:49 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
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hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?! Quote please. Apologies if you didn't but someone definitely did and it sounds like something you would say. I will not look for it this late. It was FecalFeast
Joke again? Can't tell. What I mean was way way earlier in the game.
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On June 23 2017 08:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
The only fear I have is that if I'm mafia and have a framer I'd want marvs slot framed every night. Such an obvious copcheck
Don't worry bruv.
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On June 23 2017 08:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:49 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
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hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?! Quote please. Apologies if you didn't but someone definitely did and it sounds like something you would say. I will not look for it this late. Then let me find it for you, since your short term memory is so faulty. Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup
Jesus motherfucking christ...
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Enough fun for today. That was a really helpful nightkill - thanks mafia.
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On June 23 2017 15:50 disformation wrote:
i dont believr va didnt shoot xata n1
voting va when i get to a pc
Nonono.
Why would he make that play? We can lynch him if he is still alive in LYLO. And if he is telling the truth then night3 was really good. The protective role can just claim whenever they are about to be lynched.
Makes me think BH either unnecessarily acted yesterday or he was just excited town.
Still want to murder rayn.
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On June 23 2017 16:00 disformation wrote:
like va claims to play thos game purely on mechanics.
he ahould have 100% known that xata was THE shot to make.
doesnt shoot xata.
holds shot to n3 in a game where scum has tons of kp n1 and n2. and unspecified roles etc...
not inclinded tp believe that
You are right that not shooting xatalos/keeping his shot until this late is somewhat suspicious and vig is a somewhat save fakeclaim now. But weirder things happened.
On June 23 2017 16:03 disformation wrote:
meh.
fair enough i guess.
still want to hear his thought process about fhis stuff.
Fair enough.
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On June 23 2017 18:33 disformation wrote:
ppl i dont want to kill:
fefe
chezitwo
va (lets see what his answers are and if he gets shot next night or not etc)
disfo (i think getting out of the game would be the best thing in ever, but ppl tend to yell at me when i do retarded shit)
Seems like quite a decent list to start with :D
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On June 23 2017 20:40 disformation wrote:
i have some ideas/theories about setup related stuff, but i def. dont want to give scum ideas for fake claiming. :/
Well, I guess you are mafia after all.
Koshi logic never fails.
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Pull yourself together man. It is getting slightly annoying how much you pity yourself.
We can create a wagon on Palmar and see what happens. Sure. But I do not think he has the highest chance of being mafia.
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On June 23 2017 20:52 disformation wrote:
aight. gonna be honest, not enjoying this game a lot since like n2.
still cant stop trying to solve/caring too much about it.
sry for the whine.
well. who do you think has a better/the highest chance at scum?
rayn?
Yep, for example. His SL defense is still weird and out of place and he seemingly has 0 interest in solving the game.
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At least I really have the feeling that one of rayn and rels has to be mafia.
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On June 23 2017 21:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
at this point I think Eversince is basically confirmed scum by the way. She's not there, not modkilled, no contribution, nothing at all, and what a coincidence, all while nobody talks about her.
I realize people are after Palmar? Why?
oh and ##vote Skynx
Says ES is confirmed mafia.
Votes skynx.
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