[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 11

On June 23 2017 08:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Someone who isn't at work check if he crumbed his checks

On June 23 2017 08:03 disformation wrote:

how do you know they have a rolecop?

On June 23 2017 08:07 Fecalfeast wrote:

He did say that. Cool so you're town or godfather

On June 23 2017 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
SickLucker's result, as far as I can tell, is this:

FecalFeast and Chezitwo are the same alignment

On June 23 2017 08:18 ruXxar wrote:


I say we vote you and chez.

On June 23 2017 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:
OK SO THEORY. AS we know, SickLucker crumbed his N1 and N2 checks here, which was SAME on FEFE and Chezitwo. However, pay attention to how he wrote it:



I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks.

Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things.

BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd

MAFIA SHOT HIM.

Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target.

Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL!

I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez.

But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out

this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory

now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks

they couldn't afford to let him live.

On June 23 2017 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:


hmm, do you really think so though, like remembe,r this means MAfia rolecopped SL during N1 or N2. And then, during Day 3, when it was a faceoff between SL, the guy they "know" is Parity cop, and Grack, the guy they think is just some guy, why does the Grack wagon get so much more support than the SL wagon? there were like TWO dudes on SL at the end, but at some point it was very close. I feel mafia would have pushed to get SL lynched right away.

on top of that, this innocuous "I have two redchecks" troll remark seems normal to town but to mafia has to be a HUGE red flag when those two redchecks are on two mafia right (remember, mafia didn't know he was parity cop, thought he was regular cop, in this hypothetical)

On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:


no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks

On June 23 2017 08:28 Blazinghand wrote:


So what, your theory here is that mafia had a rolecheck on SL revealing his as parity cop, and I, as Mafia, with the option to either kill Grack or SL hwo I knew was parity cop, hung out in the thread partying it up, then voted Grack? what kind of ass theory is that

On June 23 2017 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:


ok but like, that doesn't matter in my thoery, which is that the Mafia (which includes at least 1 of you and FeFe) learned about SL's identity overnight, like 12 hours ago, then shot him to keep him quiet.

There is a question as to whether Mafia would be able to push a lynch through over a claim, and post-claim SL would be docced if there was a doctor. So it's I suppose plausible that SL was known to scum to be a cop, and they did their best to keep pressure off of him during D3. But this eems like kinda a stretch to me man, quite a stretch!

On June 23 2017 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:


OMG READING COMPREHENSION

I AM POINTING OUT THAT

IN A WORLD IN WHICH MAFIA HAD A ROLE CHECK

THEY WOULD PUSH SICKLUCKER

SINCE THEY DIDN'T

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ROLE CHECK

SO WHY DID THEY SHOOT HIM

ITS NOT CAUSE HE WAS TOWN LEADER

ITS CAUSE THEY GOT HIS ROLE SOME OTHER WAY

LIKE HIS OVERNIGHT CLAIM

THAT ONLY STUCK OUT IF YOU ARE MAFIA

I AM POINTING OUT THAT THE COUNTERFACTUAL OF ROLE CHECK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

On June 23 2017 08:36 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm not saying it's inherently right, i'm just mad he misconstrued what I said. surely you understand the chain of logic

but yes if we ALREADY assume mafia has a rolecop, there are two factors at play: 1, they want SL to die, but 2) they don't want him to claim.

this also assumes they rolecopped him during N2, since if they rolecopped him N1, they'd have shot him N2 100%