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On June 23 2017 08:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Someone who isn't at work check if he crumbed his checks
He said he had "a redcheck" on the 2 of us. The only thing that makes sense to me is if he same checked us.
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It is fantastic that they had to shoot him.
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On June 23 2017 08:03 disformation wrote:how do you know they have a rolecop?
Because no mafia in their right mind shoots Sicklucker in this kind of situation without knowing that he is a cop they cannot roleblock.
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So unless he very obviously claimed somewhere I am certain he was rolecopped.
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On June 23 2017 08:07 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:03 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Someone who isn't at work check if he crumbed his checks He said he had "a redcheck" on the 2 of us. The only thing that makes sense to me is if he same checked us. He did say that. Cool so you're town or godfather
Same.
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Right now I think this does not exonerate rayn at all. But I will reevaluate tomorrow.
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On June 23 2017 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
SickLucker's result, as far as I can tell, is this:
FecalFeast and Chezitwo are the same alignment
You are so helpful. What would we ever do without you?
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THis explains the stupid "redcheck" on ES too. His way to crumb probably.
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On June 23 2017 08:18 ruXxar wrote:I say we vote you and chez.
That would be quite stupid but when has that ever stopped you, right?
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The only thing SL apparently knew is that FF and I came back as the same alignment. Even if you completely ignore our play it is much much more likely to check 2 townies than to check 2 mafia.
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On June 23 2017 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:OK SO THEORY. AS we know, SickLucker crumbed his N1 and N2 checks here, which was SAME on FEFE and Chezitwo. However, pay attention to how he wrote it: Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 19:19 sicklucker wrote:On June 22 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
so lets start again:
town:
fefe
chezitwo
if ppl scumread any of those two i would like to see reasons/cases I have a red check on both of them I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks. Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things. BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd MAFIA SHOT HIM. Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target. Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL! I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez. But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks they couldn't afford to let him live.
Not only is this just factually wrong and mafia probably wouldn't be stupid enough to think that SL wouldn't claim with 2 redckecks it is also definitely NOT more likely than the rolecop theory.
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Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous.
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On June 23 2017 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:23 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:OK SO THEORY. AS we know, SickLucker crumbed his N1 and N2 checks here, which was SAME on FEFE and Chezitwo. However, pay attention to how he wrote it: On June 22 2017 19:19 sicklucker wrote:On June 22 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
so lets start again:
town:
fefe
chezitwo
if ppl scumread any of those two i would like to see reasons/cases I have a red check on both of them I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks. Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things. BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd MAFIA SHOT HIM. Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target. Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL! I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez. But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks they couldn't afford to let him live. Not only is this just factually wrong and mafia probably wouldn't be stupid enough to think that SL wouldn't claim with 2 redckecks it is also definitely NOT more likely than the rolecop theory. hmm, do you really think so though, like remembe,r this means MAfia rolecopped SL during N1 or N2. And then, during Day 3, when it was a faceoff between SL, the guy they "know" is Parity cop, and Grack, the guy they think is just some guy, why does the Grack wagon get so much more support than the SL wagon? there were like TWO dudes on SL at the end, but at some point it was very close. I feel mafia would have pushed to get SL lynched right away. on top of that, this innocuous "I have two redchecks" troll remark seems normal to town but to mafia has to be a HUGE red flag when those two redchecks are on two mafia right (remember, mafia didn't know he was parity cop, thought he was regular cop, in this hypothetical)
Because they know SL will claim if push comes to shove, you moron.
Btw. wasn't there a VA comment which went something like "SL will fakeclaim anyways"? What's up with that?!
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On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks
Yes, and mafia certainly will believe that he has 2 actual redchecks without claiming it while being wagoned. Because that makes a lot of sense, right?
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On June 23 2017 08:28 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Or, bh, we can assume mafia knows the setup and takes that as a claim but hey yeah let's lynch into the two people likely to be town.
We already had a miller flip as well why would "I have red checks on these guys" be anything but a cop claim, if as mafia, you see that the RED CHECKS ARE ON TWO OF YOUR RED GUYS man why am I even arguing with you, you're mafia! Or you see that post, knowing chez and i are towns and that there is a parity cop and think HMm.. maybe sl has a same check on those 2 townies You'reso scum wowow So what, your theory here is that mafia had a rolecheck on SL revealing his as parity cop, and I, as Mafia, with the option to either kill Grack or SL hwo I knew was parity cop, hung out in the thread partying it up, then voted Grack? what kind of ass theory is that
Maybe you are mafia maybe you aren't. In any case mafia knew they would not be able to lynch him.
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On June 23 2017 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:27 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:23 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:OK SO THEORY. AS we know, SickLucker crumbed his N1 and N2 checks here, which was SAME on FEFE and Chezitwo. However, pay attention to how he wrote it: On June 22 2017 19:19 sicklucker wrote:On June 22 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
so lets start again:
town:
fefe
chezitwo
if ppl scumread any of those two i would like to see reasons/cases I have a red check on both of them I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks. Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things. BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd MAFIA SHOT HIM. Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target. Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL! I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez. But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks they couldn't afford to let him live. Not only is this just factually wrong and mafia probably wouldn't be stupid enough to think that SL wouldn't claim with 2 redckecks it is also definitely NOT more likely than the rolecop theory. hmm, do you really think so though, like remembe,r this means MAfia rolecopped SL during N1 or N2. And then, during Day 3, when it was a faceoff between SL, the guy they "know" is Parity cop, and Grack, the guy they think is just some guy, why does the Grack wagon get so much more support than the SL wagon? there were like TWO dudes on SL at the end, but at some point it was very close. I feel mafia would have pushed to get SL lynched right away. on top of that, this innocuous "I have two redchecks" troll remark seems normal to town but to mafia has to be a HUGE red flag when those two redchecks are on two mafia right (remember, mafia didn't know he was parity cop, thought he was regular cop, in this hypothetical) Because they know SL will claim if push comes to shove, you moron. Btw. wasn't there a VA comment which went something like "SL will fakeclaim anyways"? What's up with that?! ok but like, that doesn't matter in my thoery, which is that the Mafia (which includes at least 1 of you and FeFe) learned about SL's identity overnight, like 12 hours ago, then shot him to keep him quiet. There is a question as to whether Mafia would be able to push a lynch through over a claim, and post-claim SL would be docced if there was a doctor. So it's I suppose plausible that SL was known to scum to be a cop, and they did their best to keep pressure off of him during D3. But this eems like kinda a stretch to me man, quite a stretch!
No, it seems quite logical unlike your written diarrhea just now.
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On June 23 2017 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:30 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:23 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:OK SO THEORY. AS we know, SickLucker crumbed his N1 and N2 checks here, which was SAME on FEFE and Chezitwo. However, pay attention to how he wrote it: On June 22 2017 19:19 sicklucker wrote:On June 22 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
so lets start again:
town:
fefe
chezitwo
if ppl scumread any of those two i would like to see reasons/cases I have a red check on both of them I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks. Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things. BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd MAFIA SHOT HIM. Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target. Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL! I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez. But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks they couldn't afford to let him live. Not only is this just factually wrong and mafia probably wouldn't be stupid enough to think that SL wouldn't claim with 2 redckecks it is also definitely NOT more likely than the rolecop theory. hmm, do you really think so though, like remembe,r this means MAfia rolecopped SL during N1 or N2. And then, during Day 3, when it was a faceoff between SL, the guy they "know" is Parity cop, and Grack, the guy they think is just some guy, why does the Grack wagon get so much more support than the SL wagon? there were like TWO dudes on SL at the end, but at some point it was very close. I feel mafia would have pushed to get SL lynched right away. on top of that, this innocuous "I have two redchecks" troll remark seems normal to town but to mafia has to be a HUGE red flag when those two redchecks are on two mafia right (remember, mafia didn't know he was parity cop, thought he was regular cop, in this hypothetical) Doesn't this counter the point you're trying to make? If they knew he was parity cop, wouldn't they try to vote him out? OMG READING COMPREHENSION I AM POINTING OUT THAT IN A WORLD IN WHICH MAFIA HAD A ROLE CHECK THEY WOULD PUSH SICKLUCKER SINCE THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ROLE CHECK SO WHY DID THEY SHOOT HIM ITS NOT CAUSE HE WAS TOWN LEADER ITS CAUSE THEY GOT HIS ROLE SOME OTHER WAY LIKE HIS OVERNIGHT CLAIM THAT ONLY STUCK OUT IF YOU ARE MAFIA I AM POINTING OUT THAT THE COUNTERFACTUAL OF ROLE CHECK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
MAFIA DID NOT PUSH HIM BECAUSE THE WILL LOOK LIKE SHIT IF THEY PUSH THE COP
MAFIA WILL NEVER BELIEVE SICKLUCKER IS AN ACTUAL FULL COP WITH 2 REDCHECK WITHOUT CLAIMING
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Like, this isn't hard to understand dude. They can't expect to lynch him without him claiming. And that is what they do NOT want.
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Nice ninja vote again, Mr. Palmar.
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On June 23 2017 08:36 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:35 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, this isn't hard to understand dude. They can't expect to lynch him without him claiming. And that is what they do NOT want. I'm not saying it's inherently right, i'm just mad he misconstrued what I said. surely you understand the chain of logic but yes if we ALREADY assume mafia has a rolecop, there are two factors at play: 1, they want SL to die, but 2) they don't want him to claim. this also assumes they rolecopped him during N2, since if they rolecopped him N1, they'd have shot him N2 100%
Yes, probably.
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