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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 13:06 GMT
#4668
Also this is for special someone
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/153599313
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 13:08 GMT
#4669
But yeah disformation you are right in the Skynx before case posts. I guess i just work differently myself since i couldn't originally see that as a legit read progression. I agree it can come from town as you pointed it out.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 13:15 GMT
#4672
On June 22 2017 22:10 disformation wrote:
i guess the special someone is plammar?
if you manage to get that guy to play ill give you a get out of jail for free card for a day or two.

aight n1 starts not very good. dont really like those posts.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 17:36 Skynx wrote:
What a shitty wagon that was, litwrally bo chance of annul flipping mafia. I'll be back tonight.

wait. wait. wait. wait. wait.:
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On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred

where is xata in that?

The last post is what i am talking about.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 13:18 GMT
#4673
On June 22 2017 22:12 disformation wrote:
though. didnt we have the same argument with sl?
where it was like "why wouldn't scum, SR xata super hard at that point" cause they know he will probably bite the dust extremely soon, etc?

No it is not the same argument. The argument was that if sicklucker is mafia with Xatalos he (1) probably knows Xatalos is gonna get lynched because of (2) what he says mid-N1. Basically if he is scum he believes Xatalos is gonna die soon, that can be seen from his posts.

The difference in Skynx is the (2) never happens so i don't assume (1) either. That makes his thought process and evaluation of the situation (if mafia) different from sicklucker's.

I hope you get what i mean.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 13:47 GMT
#4680
Vayne, what did you mean by this on FF:
still tunneling ruxxar even though it makes little sense at this point

just this:
Look at it collectively as a progression though. After its proved annul is town and xatalos is likely mafia, he still has this same read of ruxxar mafia. its what happens when you dont want to get on too many people's bad sides and you start stagnating your reads as mafia.

?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 13:51 GMT
#4682
I honestly don't really think sicklucker is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 14:12 GMT
#4690
On June 22 2017 22:55 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 22 2017 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I honestly don't really think sicklucker is mafia.

Why? I think you really should.

No i really shouldn't. The case(s) on him are very weak and based on stuff that i don't think make logically sense. Knowing what Grackaroni flipped and the way people on sicklucker pushed (or rather the lack of it) him.

I'll write a more detailed answer in a bit, got friends visiting right now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 15:29 GMT
#4710
On June 22 2017 23:46 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 22:55 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 22 2017 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I honestly don't really think sicklucker is mafia.

Why? I think you really should.

No i really shouldn't. The case(s) on him are very weak and based on stuff that i don't think make logically sense. Knowing what Grackaroni flipped and the way people on sicklucker pushed (or rather the lack of it) him.

I'll write a more detailed answer in a bit, got friends visiting right now.

This is bullshit and you know it. You are defending him by proxy with this "there were shit cases on him" without even analyzing his play which is very different from the town!SL you should know. You just pick the 1 bad sounding point Rels brought up (SL pushing a lynch day1) and claim that it invalidates the whole SL push. Very scummy thing to do.

I am eagerly awaiting your explanation of how the Grack flip makes SL town but:

You are probably mafia.

No. You are terrible at this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 15:58 GMT
#4720
Chezitwo i will try to explain this as clearly as i possibly can and then if you don't understand it you can do what the fuck ever you want and have a what the fuck ever you want read on me, and i won't give any shits about it.

The push on sicklucker is based on very bad reasoning, i already talked about it with disformation yesterday. If you can't comprehend the reasoning behind what i said then i literally can't help you. I already also said this yesterday:
On June 22 2017 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 22 2017 05:07 sicklucker wrote:
On June 22 2017 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chez is not mafia nad i don't know why everyone buys Rels' bullshit.


ya he is. im more sure of him then grack but no one wants to lynch him for some reason

No he isn't. But this game is fucking invalid and we can just concede if there is zero mafia in Palmar, Rels, Grack, Skynx (from people voting for you). It is fucking impossible.

Yes, i thought, and i still think at least one of those three alive is mafia. Which brings me to:

After my vote on Grackaroni i had the thought at some point that he is actually town because of the people (outside you and disformation) voting for sicklucker didn't give any shits about the lynch at all. Unfortunately Grackaroni went and fucking claimed mafia and you should always lynch that. At that point i thought they just gave up on trying to save him. But knowing he wasn't actually mafia i am back to the conclusion that the people on sicklucker didn't really care which one of the two gets lynched.

I still don't have any reason to think sicklucker is mafia. As mafia, at some point sicklucker will always do the thing where i know he has TMI - it has happened before and i thought i saw that on N1 but the night kills invalidated that.




Also you should know one thing about me. I don't give any flying fucks anymore. I used to, but i don't have the same kind of "fire" i used to have when i was able to play about 4-10 hours a day. I don't have the time, and even if i did it takes too much energy and just makes me mad, so i stopped. And then there is this other thing:
Now that the other game is over i can actually talk about this. I played another game which i was alive for 33 days. In those 792 hours my vote was on a townie for a total times of one, for exactly 1 hour and 15 minutes, because i got tilted at Rels for suggesting i would make the dumbest night kill i have ever seen. For 32 days i tried to convince the town to lynch one of the most obvious mafias i have ever seen in any game i have played. Guess who was the only townie who got lynched that game? For being wrong on Hapa's alignment for 3 days when he afk'd and i had no time to interact with him and then someone just hammered him with almost 10 days left in the phase... And even when i was wrong i was right because i was pushing the other fucking mafia. Now that is not why i get mad irl. I get mad when even after all that there are completely illogical and straight out stupid people who cannot understand any sort or logic at all and tell me how i should play mafia. I had literally three scumreads in that game and all of them were mafia, even when i didn't think Hapa is mafia i couldn't tell who the third mafia is.

So yeah, that was the 8th time i have gotten lynched as town. Out of those 8 times in 5 occasions i have only called out mafia/SK .At least almost - in that one dumb game i afk'd for 24 hrs for valentines day and came back with like 100 votes on me "bcz rayn never afks" and called out 7 people of which there was 5/5 were mafia and one SK. But no, "we are not reading your posts you are mafia bcz rayn never afks". So this is going to be most likely my last game of mafia, i have now tried like three times and it always ends up in the same way in like at most 10 games.

But in the last couple of years i have been lynched for like eight times, a couple of them i totally deserved, one was retarded game overall and the last five times i have only called out mafia. I quit for a couple of times already because of that (amongst other things). When the game of logical deduction doesn't include logic anymore i don't really find much fun in it, except for if i am right or not. I decided i wanna have presence for the longest amount of time since i don't usually do as well in obs/following than i do in-game. And Koshi was being a dick and switching his "lynch rayn D3" into D2 (srsly Koshi that's super fucking annoying and the only times you have lynched me i have ONLY FUCKING VOTED FOR MAFIA ALL FUCKING GAME).

These are quotes from the last couple of games i have played here. You are probably not aware of this at all assuming you havent played for a while. If you however are, then you can fucking die because you're mafia trying to pull completely retarded meta shit on me you should 100% know is false. I don't care if i am lynched. I don't care to yell at people about my scumreads. I care about being right or wrong and figuring out the game. Sad but true - i am not playing for anyone except for my own amusement anymore, because of the shit i have been getting in games especially when i am FUCKING right.

So yeah, i don't care what you think of my alignment or my play. Dealwithit. I don't think sicklucker is mafia. My top mafia read is Rels. Rels should know this aswell, yet he is softly pushing me for this shit. I think you're town, i think disformation is town, i think VA is town, i think ruxxar is town, i think btdt is town, i think sicklucker is town. I kind of think Blazinghand is town.

I don't know what FF is. I don't know what Palmar is. I don't know what Eversince is.

Tumblewood can be mafia because i don't remember anything he has posted. Skynx can be mafia for what i have talked about today. That's it. Assuming there is 5 mafia the mafia is Rels, Skynx, Tumblewood and most likely one of Palmar and FF. There are my reads. Either you agree or not, but there they are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 15:59 GMT
#4721
add eversince with plammer and FF.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 16:08 GMT
#4725
On June 23 2017 01:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Eversince played a good game from what I can tell in the game you linked disfo but she fell off and ended up dying the day before lylo mainly because she stopped playing.

I would be totally fine with an es wagon today

Please elaborate on why. If i am completely honest with you i think you and Palmar both have a higher chance of flipping mafia than Eversince has, but convince me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 16:09 GMT
#4726
And i gotta go for a couple of hours, but i'll be back tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 16:11 GMT
#4730
On June 23 2017 01:10 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i gotta go for a couple of hours, but i'll be back tonight.


you will be dead!!!

But i already sent a message to Jesus Lord the Savior.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 16:13 GMT
#4731
On June 23 2017 01:10 disformation wrote:
@rayn can you explain your va town read? guys really null to me.

town:
fefe
chezitwo
rayn

townlean:
btdt

I am gonna dig up a quote from an old game obs qt that should explain the read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 16:22 GMT
#4736
disformation read this up to post 100 or so:
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/8rjcQH6vDt2W

Basically when VA is scum he pushes mafia agenda and it shows (and no, thinking a townie is mafia is not necessarily pushing mafia agenda). He is not pushing any agenda this game, his play just screams "here is what i think, don't care if you care or not". I don't think i have ever been wrong on VA's alignment after September 25 2013. So there is that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 22 2017 16:24 GMT
#4737
now i really gtg, i'll be back in a couple of hours
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 23 2017 13:07 GMT
#5084
On June 23 2017 15:55 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 23 2017 15:50 disformation wrote:
i dont believr va didnt shoot xata n1

voting va when i get to a pc

Nonono.

Why would he make that play? We can lynch him if he is still alive in LYLO. And if he is telling the truth then night3 was really good. The protective role can just claim whenever they are about to be lynched.

Makes me think BH either unnecessarily acted yesterday or he was just excited town.

Still want to murder rayn.

What an ungrateful basterd.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 23 2017 13:08 GMT
#5085
But we almost surely already won this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 23 2017 13:16 GMT
#5095
Come on btdt. sicklucker basically claimed chez and ff are the same alignment. So they are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 23 2017 13:17 GMT
#5097
Also we are not flipping either of them. Period.
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