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On June 07 2017 06:01 Grackaroni wrote:Here's the thing that I think people are overlooking: Vivax was pretty annoyed even before we consolidated on Fidei. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:46 Vivax wrote:HF is mafia obviously. On June 05 2017 07:43 Tubesock wrote:
I'm contemplating a yolo vivax lynch. you are awful Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:49 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 07:48 Tumblewood wrote:On June 05 2017 07:45 Vivax wrote:
There's only one reason for BH to do nothing all game this openly: He's mafia.
HF finds meta game where he does nothing all D1, then claims cop.
Conclusion: BH does nothing as town when he's blue.
He did nothing this game so he's town or blue.
If he isn't the doctor, he is scum.
He isn't ccing doctor, so he is scum.
Put vote on BH, win gaem. when people make constant arguments about someone not doing anything, the argument is always terrible Yes what has TL come to that active engaged players want to lynch others for doing nothing. Or is the issue that there are players doing nothing? Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:51 Vivax wrote:
Sadly he's most likely town and isn't gifted with being able to read btdts emotional progression during D1. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:33 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:30 Onegu wrote:
Im still reading.
Im on page 24 now. At this point in time my lynches would be fword dude and Vivax. BH if we wanted a coin flip but the fact that vivax wants him lynched is a point toward not lynching BH. Thanks for your valuable input in the 20 minutes you've spent playing this game after puking out a post of shallow reads to keep up the appearance that you're actually here to play mafia. I'm sure your opinion is very informed and valuable. On June 05 2017 08:22 Tubesock wrote:
##Unvote
Vote: Vivax And this guy. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/trKQY0g.gif) Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:40 Vivax wrote:
Chance to lynch BH, two guys avoid him for shit reasons and go to HF and another goes for PB instead.
Basically townies splitting all over my scumreads while tubesock is blatantly throwing his votes into the worst places possible. Kill me please. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:45 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:43 Onegu wrote:On June 05 2017 08:41 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:40 Onegu wrote:
Now 100% serious question. Why are we not lynching Fword dude? Cuz nobody cares about what you want. Well played Vivax. Well played. You sir are a bundle of Joy. Well you wanted to start with being a dick. And it's a 100% serious answer. I think you're town and I think you are super wrong and I'm pretty sure everyone else thinks that too so there's your answer. I didn't coat it in sugar cause you don't coat things in sugar either, and if I coated it in sugar you'd just eat it anyway before reading it. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:52 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:30 Onegu wrote:
Im still reading.
Im on page 24 now. At this point in time my lynches would be fword dude and Vivax. BH if we wanted a coin flip but the fact that vivax wants him lynched is a point toward not lynching BH. Vivax makes a shit post on why PB post was bad. Calling my posts shit for no reason and suggesting that you should do the opposite of what my reads say. Meanwhile never stating a single reason for me being mafia so just assuming you are here to lynch people at your own leisure and not to win the game. So he's mad beforehand that people aren't killing BH for doing nothing, and then he finds out that his read on Fidei was bad and now people are scum reading him. He thinks that he was one of the only ones who put good reasoning and effort into his pushes this game and that other people just got rewarded for playing stupidly. People that think this would be a good strategic play to try to trade 1 for 1 with HF are completely off the mark. Vivax was in a worse spot than he was yesterday but he was very far from the definite lynch today. I think he is legitimately angry and most of the time the angry player is just a butt-hurt townie. (I also don't think he's mafia just because he has had a pretty similar thought process to me throughout the game and has backed up a lot of my reads.)
Exactly my thoughts. Im not lynching Vibax over Hf. No way.
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Oh more happened. Im in bed tho. Gnite.
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holy
screenshot that, and please lynch Vivax, and if he flips town, me, so I can rub that "100%" shit in your righteous face
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holy maccaroni BH and HF
I'm ded already
I kinda wanna flip right now so I don't have another 72 hours or so of having to read how bad/scummy I am for defending a un-cc'ed claim
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ah well peace out everyone, my motivation to play just got killed now that my mafia partner Vivax got killed *rolls eyes*
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also WTF you ALWAYS lynch vivax after he rescinded. Either scum fakeclaim or fucking so bad town it gets a nomination for wrost play 2017 (which is what I did last newbie game) so WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DUMBFUCKS SAYING THAT WHOEVER WANTS TO LYNCH HIM NOW IS SCUMMY
really last game I've played, period
fuckers bye
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I am fully aware right now that this is me tilting and not even caused by an overly aggressive tone or something. It's really just me tilting and while I do know that it's me tilting, I cannot really do much against this. This just sucks.
I'll be back in a bit but right now, I really need to fix some issues apparently.
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On June 07 2017 18:00 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 17:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
also WTF you ALWAYS lynch vivax after he rescinded. Either scum fakeclaim or fucking so bad town it gets a nomination for wrost play 2017 (which is what I did last newbie game) so WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DUMBFUCKS SAYING THAT WHOEVER WANTS TO LYNCH HIM NOW IS SCUMMY
really last game I've played, period
fuckers bye sorry if I made this unfun for you and you're town and saying this and not scum faking. If I really did make this unfun for you as town, with my suggestion that you might hypothetically be scum under some circumstances, i'm sorry. I dont' want to drive people away from TL Mafia and if I actually am doing that I'll legit stop playing. I'm really sorry dude
Of course you made this unfun for me. Everyone who says I'm scum makes it unfun to me. But that's really my problem and nothing you can actively work on.
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On June 07 2017 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
I really don't get it. This is a game where accusations are thrown in your face constantly. Nobody has perfect information other than mafia. It's not uncommon that you get accused at any point in the game and from my perspective I knew vivax's claim was fake all along.
So of course I'm going to be suspicious of people that want to set up a lynch train on both of us if vivax flips town. Which was you at that point in time.
That's right, I know. It's just that all I tried to avert the Vivax lynch (and it was a lot, including filter diving and heated discussion) was useless because it ran into the brick wall of BH/HF who weren't even willing to reconsider. The thread wasn't interested in it, then the whole cc/rescind/rescind shit happened, and now I get scumread for defending a un-cc'ed cop and saying that as soon as he's cc'ed or rescinds, he should be the lynch.
And I still think that. Why would I push so heavily for Vivax being town if I have full information? I'd know that either my teammate wanted to trade - which failed - so why go out of my way to lose the game in such a fashion? Or, I'd know this is town vs. town, so I could just let everyone go on with a super wasted D2, resulting in at least one mislynch. I'd be super fine and could set myself up for the next days.
And given that besides BH, HF and me, noone was rather active on D2, this is very likely what happened. There's 1-2 mafia out there (depending on Vivax being scum or not) that are right now super under the radar.
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What do you guys think about PB voting outside of Vivax/HF and explicitely not joing that discussion?
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What happened to Tumblewood and why did he disappear after his doctor claim?
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Why was Blazinghand super sure that Vivax is scum over a red-checked Holyflare?
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What happened to Conversion, where did he go?
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Vivax' fake claim is super shit and I'm super frustrated that he rescinded. If he's scum, it's super bad play, getting himself lynched. If he's town, it's super bad play obviously, too. This is why I believed the claim instantly, there's no sane reason for either alignment to fake that claim.
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I don't want to lynch Vivax and I don't want to lynch Holyflare. I don't want to lynch Blazinghand. I'm paranoid about Blazinghand and Holyflare but the rational part of my mind says it's super unlikely they are scum together. If they are scum together, the game is lost anyways. BH and HF are driving the game forward. Vivax is mainly busy defending himself and blaming BH/HF being scum, and I'm of course busy with self-pity and so on.
Good thing we lynched scum D1, because if we hadn't, scum probably would be in a great position.
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Okay. Thought experiment:
Assuming BH, HF, Vivax and me are all town and mafia is in the rather low volume players and having a good laugh about how town is currently screwing over itself. That leaves:
Tubesock, Tumblewood, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, ritoky, Prison Break, Conversion.
Now Tumblewood is the blue claim. The doctor. However, the nightkill was Onegu. Now keep in mind that the OP clearly says that the doctor cannot heal himself - so either scum didn't believe the doctor claim and did a potential medic dodge - or Tumblewood fakeclaimed to stay alive.
So right now, Tumblewood is un-cc'ed and the only claim. town!HF's move of "hey, not gonna tell the exact role so I don't out the "real" blue just in case" was actually really cool. Tumblewood let the whole D2 pass so far and didn't care too much about this game ALTHOUGH he's the claimed doctor and should be highly interested in finding out potential N2 heal targets, right? Mafia didn't kill him N1, so maybe he'll get another heal of. There might of course be other thinking patterns but this is one that I'd find likely to have as doctor.
Grackaroni - I'm currently putting him on the town pile. He worded exactly why I didn't want to lynch Vivax in a way that I really liked and I fully agreed with his thought process here. I quoted the post that I mean already, it's somewhere in my filter. Might be a bit too easy to townread here but I'll do it anyways.
LightningStrike - I still have no particular impression on what he's done so far. Townreads Tubesock, Grack, ritoky. He says that "HF vs. Vivax feels like town vs. scum" with a tendency to Vivax playing the scum part - what happened to that read D2? But then again, he was early to switch to fidei, plus:
On June 05 2017 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I not feeling good about this switch to james now with everyone jumping on broad.
I think this is a genuine town post.
His last appearance here was almost 24 hours ago so it's time for him to come back.
Tubesock has a full three pages of filter, mostly one liners that are not really amazing. I don't know why people townread that guy. But then again he was second on the Fidei wagon which should give him a lot of town cred.
In that thought experiment, our lynches should be between ritoky, Prison Break, Conversion. Those are at least the guys and gals to look into.
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On June 07 2017 20:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 20:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't want to lynch Vivax and I don't want to lynch Holyflare. I don't want to lynch Blazinghand. I'm paranoid about Blazinghand and Holyflare but the rational part of my mind says it's super unlikely they are scum together. If they are scum together, the game is lost anyways. BH and HF are driving the game forward. Vivax is mainly busy defending himself and blaming BH/HF being scum, and I'm of course busy with self-pity and so on.
Good thing we lynched scum D1, because if we hadn't, scum probably would be in a great position.
This post totally doesn't look like you wanted to write a lot more and then realized that nothing else came to mind? ;p 5 empty lines
Close :D I chose to put it in a seperate post.
On June 07 2017 20:47 Holyflare wrote:
Or mafia deleting scummy sentences!
(plz don't run away btdt :D)
<3
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On June 07 2017 22:41 Conversion wrote:
OK I just woke up and I'll be reading through filter's since it looks like Vivax actually posted something since the last time I read.
@BTDT Could you actually make a read on me/PB/ritoky? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on us 3 tbh and I'm interested in being evaluated for my play so far, which hasn't been stellar because this whole claiming play just made the game unfun for me so I took a longer break.
Also where is PB? He promised to be more active and has posted nothing so far. Can I get a list of your reads so far? I'll post mine soon after this post.
My filter has reads on ritoky and PB and I think even on you :O
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On June 07 2017 22:55 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 22:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 07 2017 22:41 Conversion wrote:
OK I just woke up and I'll be reading through filter's since it looks like Vivax actually posted something since the last time I read.
@BTDT Could you actually make a read on me/PB/ritoky? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on us 3 tbh and I'm interested in being evaluated for my play so far, which hasn't been stellar because this whole claiming play just made the game unfun for me so I took a longer break.
Also where is PB? He promised to be more active and has posted nothing so far. Can I get a list of your reads so far? I'll post mine soon after this post. My filter has reads on ritoky and PB and I think even on you :O I meant in your thought experiment  Also your point on me was "where am I" and here I am! Honestly I was F5'ing the thread pretty hard since my last post but nothing was happening so I went away from the thread and am catching up now. Also realized I didn't really make a lot of posts, so I guess that fits the "mafia letting town destroy themselves" so I'll try to be more active before deadline today, although from what I'm reading from the filter I still don't like Vivax's play... not sure if it's enough to autolynch him anymore but we'll see
Oh in my thought experiment
To be honest I'd lynch you and PB over ritoky right now
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On June 08 2017 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
Let's be real here, lynching anyone but vivax today is a travesty to the game of mafia.
Bah. Bah, for real.
Before Vivax unclaimed, lynching Vivax as the claimed cop would've been a travesty to the game of mafia.
Now you say "uh I think he's town but I'll stick with it and lynch him anyways".
No! If you genuinely think he is town, then you are perfectly capable of talking people out of the lynch.
It's things like this that make me mad, you know.
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