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On June 04 2017 14:35 Tumblewood wrote:
if you were reading my filter, ritoky, you might see the post where I explain exactly what I'm talking about with grack
oh, and did I mention, Advanced Analytics™
i did read your filter, and it isn't there. you explained about "rooting for grack"; but mindmeld to me mean you have the same thought at the same instant or in direct response to the exact same thing some1 quoted. don't see any of that.
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two big differences between our lists are that i think hf and conv lean town, you have them both null. why? also why is BH town, cuz capslock or meta and that's it?
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On June 04 2017 23:17 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2017 03:53 ritoky wrote:
the person i think is most mafia right now is probably BTDT. i think his reads are cheap and hollow.
he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town.
he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit.
he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do.
he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game?
dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted. PBs reads at that point are wishy-washy, ritoky, and if you call that a solid read, then you're misrepresenting things. If there are more questions towards me coming from that case, feel free to ask, I'm here.
Yes, his reads were wishy-washy at that point, I agree with you. That's my point. My point is that his reads in the previous game were basically never wishy-washy, they were always definitive. So if he is playing the opposite or different from his previous game, then why are you assuming he is the same alignment as the previous game?
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On June 04 2017 23:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
stuck on page 11, cooking is done.
ritoky town
hf dunno, can be both, if alive >D3, lynch with fire etc
I don't care about pretty much everyone else, can be lynched
except Onegu, for some super weird reason I think Onegu's town
but I'm not gonna share this reason
holy crap.....this is so bad....this might be too bad to be scum.
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On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood?
I would like an answer to this.
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On June 05 2017 04:06 beentheredonethat wrote:im super good as scum i super suck as town story of my life 
cool, talk about people not named BTDT and conversion. go.
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On June 05 2017 04:17 Vivax wrote:Page 2 of his filter has plenty of townie posts. Also PoE cause I'm currently thinking mafia is BH/HF/PB with a +-1 margin of error or something like that. Maybe LS but I don't think he looks that bad apart from thinking that TW reading TS town after missing the joke is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 22:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:Tumblewood missing Tubesock's joke in disformation fashion, full frontal. I rate that as a towny thing. The joke itself is kinda NAI, too, but then again, why would scum start to push ahead a game when they can just rely on a lackluster game start with the EU people still asleep? I feel like Tubesock is town here, too. On June 03 2017 10:42 Prison Break wrote:
RNG votes are cool, an RNG lynch seems horrible, doesn't give any information and turns the game into auto + there's no way to actually check if it's random and you don't know if the person determining the "random" factor is town or scum either This post feels super weird. First of all, you're here as a newbie, you're not supposed to judge if something's "cool" or not, right? The content of your post is supercorrect yet super obvious, so you do not add any value at all to the discussion. On June 03 2017 16:15 Vivax wrote:
Early reads:
Tube town for pushing game forward and being proactive.
TW town for lashing out at something he didn't like and avoiding his scum play lazy buddying. It looked overly emotional to me but he claims it wasn't.
Grack scum for being lazy, passive and kind of just reacting to things around him without attempting to reach a satisfactory conclusion or looking like he wanted to. Neither shitpost-y grack nor tryhard-y grack. Just bore-y grack.
Rest null. I do agree with this post. Except I wouldn't put Grack on the scum pile yet because in Generic II, he played like this all game and was town. On June 03 2017 21:31 Conversion wrote:
Hi all!
I'm here-- generally a hectic weekend personally so apologies that I was late! That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting? In the second line he tags one of the most generic posts possible as "super weird" I also didn't like that he goes out of his way to quote Vivax to say that he agrees with something that he had just said at the top of his post. Nagging someone to contribute at the end adds to the perception that he's trying to fluff up contributions. Plus I generally find pestering people to post annoying. Also he called me a baddie. It actually wasn't as bad of a post as I thought though because his whole schtick in the next post is that PB is making fluff posts, which is a fair argument. That may be what he meant by super weird in the second line. On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote:
HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack. On June 04 2017 23:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I have a feeling that TW is town too even though his read on me makes no sense. I think these posts come off fairly townie and I simply like the way Grack puts them out there and for example how he found something that doesn't make sense in TW yet doesn't use it as an excuse to push him when there's baddies like HF trying to get him lynched.
a bh/hf team? you think hf defends a teammate who has contributed this little (BH) this hard on d1? i don't think that aligns with how hf plays mafia.
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On June 05 2017 04:27 Vivax wrote:
To explain:
RItoky last game (generic II) we had a lynch day where we were deciding between HF and Palmar. Scum HF went out of his way hard defending Palmar and trying to lynch LS and SL instead (both town) and that ended up in a foreseeable HF lynch for him.
So he basically voluntarily traded himself in resulting in Palmar getting lynched the next day although the outcome would have been the exact same if he didn't. It just made sure we REALLY lynched Palmar cause HF made it look like he was trying to win the game on the spot for both of them.
wasn't palmar green checked and right all game....that shit was a travesty
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On June 05 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
yo ritoky when you're done calling me bad what do you think about Holyflare?
i think he's probably town.
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On June 05 2017 04:38 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:36 Fidei86 wrote:On June 05 2017 04:30 beentheredonethat wrote:It's super weird that Fidei 1. likes my "forensic approach" (which everyone else called BAD BAD BAD) 2. townleans me 3. doesn't say a single word to defend me at any point in his filter  ( I mean, since that you've essentially just pushed Conversion and then been extremely whiny. I'm still town-leaning you, but all my reads are sort of crossing over each other, which is making this game very confusing. But if you want someone else to defend you maybe you should start by defending yourself... I know I'm playing bad. And I assure you this is the last game I'll play for a while if not ever. Every time I sign up for a game and roll town, I get super mad when I'm called scum, I get super mad when people call me bad. So I'll be super happy if this game is over for me and don't worry, I won't sign up for any other games.
out of game for a sec: sorry this is your experience. if it gets to you that hard i will do my best to refrain from calling you bad or insulting you going forward. i don't want people to have a shit time playing.
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i think hf isn't mafia for a couple reasons:
1) he was phone posting at the wedding. this is shitty reasoning, but i got the sense he was so frustrated with rolling mafia that he would have just afk'd through the wedding had he rolled it again.
2) his reaction to one of tube's posts about conv and pb was pretty much identical to my reaction to it.
3) he is pushing LS in a way that doesn't feel like he is pocketing LS or is in a QT with LS
4) he hasn't talked about me much/given reads on me formally, which is how he tends to act toward me as town on day 1
5) he is defending BH, who i feel hf values as one of the few players on the player list with game-solving potential if he tries. as mafia i think he would be content to let BH just die.
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vivax, do you think TW is town?
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but TW's top town read is BH....and his lynch list is HF cuz of omgus, LS for being LS/omgus, and onegu for being low hanging fruit. he didn't even respond to any of 1gu's post which actually had a gem in it:
On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote:
Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...
idk i just feel like TW is super peripheral this game. he doesn't engage with what is actually goes on, stays floating on the edges and doesn't take a stand for very much since he got burned right away. don't really think first 30 min vibes paint over the rest of his day phase.
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On June 05 2017 05:11 Vivax wrote:
Ritoky why is PB town? You only mentioned him being less definitive and ended up TRing him, is that all there is to it? So far you're avoiding to talk about him when I try to stir up discussion about him
my literal only reason for PB town is he reads different than the previous game that he was mafia in. i was an obs in that game though, so technically this is my first game with him. his vote on BTDT was basically just a copypasta of my case tho, so at second glance his contribution level is actually kinda low.
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but vivax's point is: if he's a coinflip, why are you defending a coinflip so hard? why not just say "he's a coinflip i don't wanna vote for him" then push the guy you think is mafia.
to which hf will respond: i have been trying to push my lynch you idiot, but you're sitting here calling me mafia and calling BH mafia over dumb crap.
to which vivax will respond: this case is not dumb, here's the case.
can we just stop for a moment and realize that there's 3 of us here trying to actually solve the game while half the game fucks off?
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i have to drag 3 kids under 3 to the grocery store in 45 mins which may be a 2 and a half hour experience. so i would like to figure this shit out. not interested in voting hf or vivax. not particularly interested in voting bh. i don't think my vote is well placed on btdt atm after he emotion carded me.
lookin at TW, grack, fidei, maybe PB, maybe ls
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On June 05 2017 05:42 Tumblewood wrote:
I wanna lynch holyflare and I'm not sure it's even for alignment reasons anymore
is BH still town for you?
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On June 05 2017 05:49 Tumblewood wrote:
still think ls lynch is the best, ignoring the fact that I wanna punch Hf telekinetically
ls always has a couple posts where he is just did clueless when he's town, and this game he's not a scrub, just boring.
which posts? and how are they different from another LS game?
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On June 05 2017 05:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
tumblewood 2 things
What games did you read where BH "Does more things as town than mafia".
What post did you mindmeld with Grackaroni? tw plz respond
also to me
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