Ya well this part is inconclusive, scummy. It's like TWs read on PB from last game (who both were mafia). Something written as if to say something but doesn't say anything instead. Besides, why do they have no relevant meaning? Explain pls.

prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

June 04 2017 08:02 GMT

#282

On June 04 2017 16:27 Vivax wrote:
Ritoky you also getting flashbacks from that game where 1gu and BH were mafia when you see 1gu writing longish confused posts?

Man that game was great, probably the best scumgame I've played ever

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

June 04 2017 08:11 GMT

#283

On June 04 2017 16:53 Vivax wrote:

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What are you talking about? I was talking about LS doing his comment on nothing going on and giving his own town meta. Its classic LS. <3 LS...

I dont see how that is even close to the same thing. Also you are trying to say someone else did this and they were scum so onegu doing something that kinda looks like the same thing but isnt really the same thing makes onegu scum also. It doesnt work that way...

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

June 04 2017 08:11 GMT

#284

On June 04 2017 17:02 Blazinghand wrote:

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Man that game was great, probably the best scumgame I've played ever

Yeah you bussed the crap out of me for no reason...

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

June 04 2017 08:12 GMT

#285

Also 4 am here. Be back before deadline for talks and stuff.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

June 04 2017 08:17 GMT

#286

On June 04 2017 17:11 Onegu wrote:

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Yeah you bussed the crap out of me for no reason...

Hey we won in the end

Also you really weren't pulling your weight imo

Vivax

22407 Posts

June 04 2017 10:24 GMT

#287

Yeah no onegus post isn't as bad as I made it out to be. But if he intends to play like that he should probably find a townie to sheep. Also no idea why he thinks ritoky is forgettable, he's one of the best posters atm.

BH on the other hand doesn't have an opinion on that post when asked, scum points.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

June 04 2017 10:58 GMT

#288

Conversion: my reasoning was simple. You thread entered, and then having not posted anything for half a day or so you came back with a long and clearly typed post (#159) (i.e. not just something you bashed out on a mobile) that didn't give any reads and just apologised. At the time I made the post I don't think you had made any game relevant posts. So that is why I said I wasn't going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Obviously there's been a lot of development since I went to bed, and I quite like the indignant but also slightly confused tone of your subsequent posts. Also #200 you say you're "glad Vivax and Grace read you as town". As a new player I'm onboard for that being a genuine dumbtell. TR.

BH is massively overplaying the Grack read. And in fact, BH hasn't done anything outside of his RNG/Grack read. I had the same reaction as Grack did to the onslaught ("wtf?"). Maybe BH is going for the old Chezinu play? But I don't see how that helps as town, particularly in a newbie game. Grack's reads are thin, and I don't like how he seems to soft TW at #249 without pushing it. So I end up where I think they are scummy. Doubt they're scum together, although the amount of shitting up the thread they've achieved could easily part of a plan.

Vivax is pretty town - his post at #181 hit some people multiple times, which is indicative of someone not trying to build a narrative.

I like ritoky's interactions with Conversion - trying to push Conversion to carry on and give reads. (This is something else I liked about Vivax re 187, where he prods BTDT after earlier null reading/asking for more info).

TW continues to be underwhelming. His BH read is garbage, and he now has Tube and Grack as his top towns? Over Vivax? I also think his general tone in the thread has been unhelpful (see #270, #272).

So right now I'm at:

Town:
Vivax
Ritoky

Lean Town:
Conversion
LS (ehhhhhhhhhhhh)
BTDT

Null:

Onegu: one massive WOT isn't enough to get you off, and you're tunnelled on me per usual, but nothing in your reads gave any red lights
PB
Tube

Scummy;
BH
Grack
HF
TW

Right now I'm leaning towards TW, and I would rather lynch BH/Grack over HF.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

June 04 2017 11:18 GMT

#289

Hmm, seems unlikely TW and HF are teamed. But I'm going to stick with TW I think. Probably clears HF if he flips red.

vote: ##Tumblewood

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

June 04 2017 11:27 GMT

#290

How on earth can you have both TW and I as scummy but want to lynch TW when I've been the biggest proponent to his lynch?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

June 04 2017 11:29 GMT

#291

That list is so bull shit. If you think I haven't done enough then I'm null. But then you want to lynch my scum read for reasons I've outlined and that you apparently support.

But I'm mafia on your list instead of null/towny which I should be if you agree with me.

No. That doesn't add up at all.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

June 04 2017 11:35 GMT

#292

HF - his reads are thin and I think his LS read is wrong in particular. He has also kept pushing the TW read long after everyone else had sort of agreed and moved on. I think he probably is at a wedding tho, so his style makes sense in that context. I think it's a null-leaning slightly scummy read, but I definitely wouldn't lynch into him at the moment.

Apart from the actual AFKers, the two people I'm most on at the moment are TW and Conversation, but for different reasons. We've all pinged out his weird read progression on TS earlier, but then when he finally comes back he comes in and gives two lazy-ass reads on me and ritoky (and yes, I know D1 association reads are garbage, but if one of those flips red later the other could be with them).

This is hot garbage too. Not only is my LS read not wrong (he definitely ignored the interaction and even said so) but I'm pushing the person you directly think is mafia. You even reference he's still looking like mafia in your second paragraph, for more of the reasons I'm still outlining!

Your return list post also cites his bad Grack read and BH read, which again, I pushed.

No way you can simultaneously think these things in any sort of thought progression but still have me scummy. I was at a wedding and not doing much and pushing your scum read for things you agree about.

So why am I still mafia?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

June 04 2017 11:36 GMT

#293

And LS I'm challenging you this game. If you are town I don't want you to reference a single piece of meta. I want you to use reasons from this game. Anything else is a mafia claim.

Do not ignore this post.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

June 04 2017 11:53 GMT

#294

Bear in mind I still haven't read most of the game but that spree of posts is especially egregious. I'll read more when I'm home.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

June 04 2017 11:57 GMT

#295

@HF Clearly you're pushing in the same way as me on some people, but that in and of itself doesn't clear you. I'm still relying on the LS interaction a fair bit, but I admit I read your later stuff with a less critical eye because it didn't seem very weighty. Let me look over your filter again.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

June 04 2017 12:09 GMT

#296

How on earth is my LS argument scummy/bad when:

A) I'm not even calling him mafia for it.
B) it's something I think makes him look bad.

He didn't pick up on something I think he usually would as town and I thought that was bad. He said it was weird initially but then responded later that he didn't even read it until he read your post. But then I called him out and he backtracked saying he did acknowledge it.

Either way, it's the only thing that happened in the game that point and he didn't really push it. Was bad.

Now you're saying you haven't in fact read the latter of what I've written but yet you've returned making a post calling me mafia in it. That's looking really really bad for you.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

June 04 2017 12:19 GMT

#297

I didn't say I hadn't read it, I said I put less weight on it.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

June 04 2017 12:23 GMT

#298

Eh, you're right on LS. I'd forgotten you hadn't pushed that as far as I'd thought.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

June 04 2017 12:34 GMT

#299

Since we're the only ones here, HF, what do you think of the rest of my list? Am I / was I wrong on anyone else?

Grackaroni

United States9857 Posts

June 04 2017 12:50 GMT

#300

On June 04 2017 21:09 Holyflare wrote:
How on earth is my LS argument scummy/bad when:

B) it's something I think makes him look bad.
A) I'm not even calling him mafia for it.

By switching the ordering of the bullet points. HF/LS+1. Got ya scummo.