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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 18:38 GMT
#1224
On June 07 2017 03:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
On June 07 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 07 2017 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 07 2017 03:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 07 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
On June 07 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
honestly if we lynch vivax at this point and he flips cop are we even in a terrible spot? we lynch HF tomorrow which means we have 2 scum in 3 lynches, that seems pretty good for a worst case scenario

best case scenario is vivax is scum which is obv good, and lynching HF is bad because odds are vivax was going to be lynched at some point anyway

If he flips cop, we don't have a cop.
Next kill would then most likely be Tumblewood (if he's indeed doc) because doc would save the cop.
If all those claims are real, ofc.

If HF flips green, we can lynch a scum tomorrow. Which is super fine. We don't lose the cop.
I just don't understand how a sane person can prefer the un-cc'ed cop lynch over the claimed check lynch. Even if HF isn't scum, we get Vivax. In both cases it's a bit coinflippy but why the hell would you start with the potential cop and not with the potential scum?


Because if you're playing the same game you'd know vivax was bad fake claiming or mafia.

He even says in his post he's going to rescind.

Point me to that.

At the end of the day nothing anyone ever said matters again and you will all just lynch another random person again in some attack of herd mentality (which is the prime reason I'm not happy with this game). And don't tell me that lynching fidei wasn't random as hell cause you were all literally just looking for someone else to lynch other than TW except for 1gu who actually had some real arguments.

He seems to be all fucked up about the randomness of this game. And I can understand that: looking only at activity (not content), he's active and participating and gets scumread, while low-volume players that didn't contribute too hard to this game get a lot of cred because they yolo'd a lynch onto scum gf.

I can super understand his frustration and I don't understand why you call that "bad fake claiming or mafia".


We
Lynched
Mafia
And
He
Says
It's
Cos
Onegu
Made
Good
Points
And
Everyone
Sheeped
Onegu

So why is he mad at all that fidei, the mafia, got lynched based on content. It was 0% random AND UNAVOIDABLE BECAUSE THE MAIN WAGON CLAIMED BLUE.

He makes it out like he's pissed off from an unavoidable situation that he played no part in to help. Then he says at the end of the day after everyone picks a side in the cop battle we'll lynch someone random. Because he is going to rescind and say it's all a joke to make us flail like day 1.

I don't think you're making sense. And I think you're trying to talk me into lynching Vivax. I'm not gonna lynch into the un-cc'ed cop because his red-check told me to do so. It's super madness.

If he lied, he'll be lynched next day. If not, HF is scum. Supercool.


How does this not make sense to you. You said it makes sense that vivax is frustrated at the randomness. But what reason does he possibly have to be frustrated when he compliments onegu and said he had valid reasons to vote fidei? zero.

Then you say he's frustrated because fidei wasn't talked about but no shit, we didn't have time with Tumblewood claiming doctor. But fidei flipped mafia.

Why is vivax, the guy who doesn't like to play the game as mafia who had a not so bad start to the game, rage quitting when we kill a mafia super early? Because he was doing well, his team likely in a good spot and fidei "randomly" dies.

Bye bye motivation.

mumble mumble yeah makes sense

but I don't want to admit that this makes sense

lynching the fucking uncc'ed cop is plain bullshit


It's not bull shit. He's not cop.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 18:40 GMT
#1228
On June 07 2017 03:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 06:51 Vivax wrote:
I like Fidei's first post cause he reprimands me for forming certain reads he thinks I shouldn't have. I will say that they are preliminary reads based on the little content I had so I think that shows that he isn't suffering from TMI.
Fidei town for now.

HF town I think cause he isn't just yelling about any mistake someone may have made and extending the discussion about it into as much detail as he can to produce endless unproductive arguments. He seems really chill about his scumhunting and thinks he has something on TW. I can see where he's coming from cause imo that post looked overly emotional (if you wanna call it forced, call it forced) but I'm not that sure that it makes TW mafia as he is.

BTDT I'm atm conflicted on cause I don't think Grack played like this in generic. I feel like Grack has slowed down his posting even more than in the last game, and I'm surprised btdt doesn't see it the same way.
I like on the other hand that he's pointing out how PB is making easy posts by saying certain things in a contrived, overly worded way. But I also think that it's something a scum can easily point out esp. emphasizing that PB won a mafia game recently which reads to me like soft fearmongering. I prefer to remain inconclusive on btdt for now and watch more development between him ritoky and PB.

PB on the other hand calls out fidei for the lurker thingy, but says it's only scummy if it's not to move the game forward, which is a statement that cancels itself and ends up not really saying anything. He could ask fidei if that was his intention before explaining that if it was, he could ignore the argument, for example.
I like his idea of discussing how to find mafia early game actually and giving his own opinion on it cause it looks cute at best, pointless at worst and since it's what we are already doing I don't think that it needs to be laid out.
He doesn't latch onto someone instantly like last scum game but prefers a chill start instead so I remain conflicted on him as well.

HF also pointed out that he's asking for help on how to play and shouldn't be auto made out as scummy which looks like what btdt wants to do.

I think in this conversation btdt looks a bit too eager to push PBs post into a scummy light and comes out slightly worse of the two, although superficially, PB has more things you could construe as scummy quickly (and hence possibly qualifies as lynch bait)

Conversion post explaining his absence reads tonally super town explaining without a hint of nervousness why he's playing like he is. Feels safe to townpile for now.

Ritoky's case on btdt seems good and isn't overly adorned and gets straight to the point. Ritoky likey.

Grack has achieved a new dimension of mafia laziness but his latest read post ends up at something similar like where I am. Gonna see what he comes up with further. I maintain that he didn't try to do jack in early game and even less than last game where at least he actively constructed shit posts (like inserting wrong quotes on purpose).

LS and HFs arguments on LS I'm postponing atm. Also fideis new post doesn't end up where I am at all. I'ma stick around now instead of throwing walls of text at you. And BH?BH whatever, he has a star in his name and is the banlist fuhrer so should probably lynch just to be rebellious.

look at this

for someone who absolutely doesn't like to play scum (as painted), that's quite the effort to do.


This is literally just a post summary. He doesn't like to play mafia but he isn't a scrub.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 18:43 GMT
#1234
You should just read my filter. It's just full of calling out bull shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 18:49 GMT
#1243
Dude. I said he hates playing it. Not "he never puts effort in". He got me lynched when he was mafia and I was town not too long ago.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 18:53 GMT
#1247
On June 07 2017 03:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
Dude. I said he hates playing it. Not "he never puts effort in". He got me lynched when he was mafia and I was town not too long ago.


But if he puts effort in although he hates it, why would he throw it all away then? Not even for a blue, but for a personal "HF you suck" thingy?

Like
a) he hates in but puts effort in -> genuine rage
b) he hates in and doesn't put effort in -> fake rage

We should lynch the red-check. Not the cop.


Because he puts effort in and was in a good spot as mafia. Happy vivax. Then his team mate "randomly dies at deadline and Holyflare calls to lynch vivax 24/7". Demotivated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 18:54 GMT
#1248
I will play my trap card if you don't lynch vivax. Nobody wants that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 19:06 GMT
#1257
Like how are you even reading the same game?

Vivax only basically pushed PB which was a terrible push. Got called out by myself and onegu and he dropped it.

He bushed based RNG BH for FALSE meta and when shown meta that contradicted his statements he disregarded and still pursued lynch.

Then he pushes me simply for calling out his bull shit at every hurdle.

All his pushes have been bad. PB is very likely town. I know you don't agree but you didn't just play as mafia with him and I did. His posts, thoughts and reads are evolving as the game goes on and he's digging and it seems way more natural than his forced posts last game.

BH is RNGesus and was not ever anything but a coin flip but vivax had no alternative than to push it as a scummy bh despite evidence.

And I am most assuredly town. If you think my game is comparable to last game in the slightest I don't know what you're even reading. I've been at throats all game.

And what have we achieved today? A stale conversation that's dragged on about me vs vivax. Me posting non-stop and vivax afking.

Just last game we told off whoever the cop was for claiming first thing in the day because it shuts down discussion and achieves nothing. What does vivax do? Fake claims first thing in day to shut down discussions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 19:37 GMT
#1266
On June 07 2017 04:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 04:06 Holyflare wrote:
Like how are you even reading the same game?

You cannot write this and expect me to continue reading.

nah HF you have my vote as long as no counter claim happens.


You're saying we should lynch a town over a fake claiming town/mafia despite him posting absolutely nothing of meaningful content the entire game and has pretty much the opposite reads to 90% of the game even when evidence is presented that should alter his read.

Sorry that I'm not gonna let you idly kill me because you have some pre-conceived notion that we should always lynch the red check.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 19:45 GMT
#1267
No matter who you lynch it's always going to be a 1 for 1 trade but one of us is and has been producing meaningful content whereas the other one has afkd into oblivion and made the game a stale discussion.

I sure know who I'd like to keep around.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 19:50 GMT
#1270
well I'm town soooooo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 19:52 GMT
#1272
nah I get it but lynching me would be bad for various reasons™
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 20:28 GMT
#1279
keep being baddy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 20:29 GMT
#1280
it's kind of ironic vivax picked me in a way because it will fully bite him in the arse
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 21:16 GMT
#1293
the spite thing makes it obviously fake and I don't even know why you're debating it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 21:19 GMT
#1294
I mean grack and btdt are making vivax town cases

sooooooooooooooooooo

lynch 'em boys
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 21:36 GMT
#1303
On May 21 2017 21:38 Vivax wrote:
Btw palmar no matter your alignment it was as always a great pleasure and privilege to play a game with you. Muchos enjoyable.


this is how vivax treats scum reads that put up good fights when he's town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 06:30 GMT
#1340
I without a doubt promise to bend over and get lynched/beheaded/maimed/whatever you want with me if vivax flips cop.

Which is impossible.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 06:30 GMT
#1341
Vivax is maintaining he is cop so he is without a doubt mafia now. There's no take backs on this train.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 06:36 GMT
#1344
Ok, fuck it. I'm just going to hammer this shit into the ground once and for all because I can already feel some people going full retard.

I am blue. I'm not claiming what blue but you can just read all my Tumblewood paranoia and see that I am quite clearly afraid that he was fake claiming. That's why I wanted another blue to claim today (pb was asking) because then that would basically confirm tw as mafia or at least the other claiming guy.

This is why I said it's ironic vivax checked me and thought it would be hilarious if vivax was cop green checking bh. But he maintains bh and I are a team and is determined to not rescind.

Either way, get fucked.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 06:38 GMT
#1345
Well done vivax, you got me to claim. Die.
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