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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:00 GMT
#1742
If Vivax isn't scum I'll figuratively eat my hat
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:03 GMT
#1744
Well, as I said all along, Vivax could have flipped any alignment but it needed to be done.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:06 GMT
#1748
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:12 GMT
#1752
Sorry BTDT please don't actually take the previous two posts seriously, those posts were jokes. I was being super confident Vivax was scum, and then he flipped town so I was loudly claiming to have always known he was town and never voted him even though I totally did. Those were jokes. I was just kidding around. I'm not serious about "I was the only one who didn't vote Vivax" or "I was the only one who defended him or pointed out he might be town"—these things are so far from what's true that it's completely impossible. Those are joke posts.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:14 GMT
#1756
On June 08 2017 09:11 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:55 Prison Break wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:49 Vivax wrote:
Just lynch HF tomorrow.


If you flip VT, which I doubt since I think you're scum, then really I don't understand your play at all, and you/others kept saying you wouldn't do this as VT either

If HF didn't fake blue, then the real blue would've been outed because why? I don't get it


Thought process being used here:

1) assume Tumblewood is real Doctor
2) Assume we only have two blues
3) Vivax claims Cop
4) Now, a hidden Cop thinks, "Vivax must be scum, because I am the real cop"
5) Enough time goes by, if it looks Vivax won't get lynched, the hidden cop counterclaims to make it true
6) this is really convenient for Scum Vivax, because now his final teammate catches a cop
7) this gets averted by HF's fake blueclaim

not saying this is true, but this is the thought process


It makes "sense" as scum, but I don't see it making sense as VT, is what I'm saying. It seems like a bad play as either alignment cause he just kind of gave up though. I'm still cool with the lynch fwiw.




Well if you're still cool with the Vivax lynch I got good news to you, and bad news for you we're past the deadline now—scroll up.

Good news: We successfully lynched Vivax
Bad news: He was Town
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:14 GMT
#1757
On June 08 2017 09:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious.

Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now.
Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here.

Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town.



This was a joke post. this was a joke post. I was joking
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:15 GMT
#1759
Like in the post I literally claim "my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of the day" which is a TRIVIALLY FALSE FACT. IT IS A JOKE POST.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:16 GMT
#1761
On June 08 2017 09:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 09:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious.

Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now.
Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here.

Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town.



This was a joke post. this was a joke post. I was joking

LIE. YOU'RE A LYING LIAR MC'LIARSON.



GAWD FRICKKIN DAMN IT GRACK
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 00:20 GMT
#1769
On June 08 2017 09:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 09:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious.

Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now.
Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here.

Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town.



This was a joke post. this was a joke post. I was joking

Blabla. I mean you scumreading Vivax is like super consistent, you wanted to lynch him D1 already. I think your voting thread filter has ##vote Vivax and maybe an ##unvote somewhere.



MY. VOTE. WAS. ON. VIVAX. AT. END. OF. DAY. 2.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 03:30 GMT
#1793
On June 08 2017 12:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and Vivax flipped town. Figured he might honestly.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Yes your vote was on Vivax at the end of the day as shown here:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Day Two Final Vote Count

Vivax (7): Tubesock, Holyflare, Blazinghand, Conversion, Prison Break, ritoky, Tumblewood, Tubesock
Holyflare (2): Vivax, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike
ritoky (1): Grackaroni
Prison Break (1): beentheredonethat
Grackaroni (0): ritoky
beentheredonethat (0): Prison Break
Tumblewood (0): LightningStrike

Nice try on lying on that front.


Sweet mother of mercy you know you can scroll like three posts up to see me saying "Vivax is definitely scum" above the post in which I am claiming that I defended Vivax. Man the moral of the story is to never tell jokes I guess
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 12:38 GMT
#1838
On June 08 2017 21:32 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 21:20 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock who do you think is mafia?


I'm starting to think more about BH. I realized I don't trust him. He's said pretty towny things and makes me laugh. He's really buddying up to you and I think that's shady. Reminds me too much of Darth P(something) and Geript. He gives the token "oh I distrust HF totally" blah blah but would follow any of your plays. I don't for a second think he's "keeping his eye on you".


Do you actually not think even for a second that I am keeping my eye on HF? tsk tsk
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 12:39 GMT
#1841
On June 08 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
Omg I love you for writing that post. Bh is definitely without a doubt on my radar even if he is hilarious.


Yeah I'm like legitimately hoping Mafia shoot me tonight so i can leave some desperate last-minute-before-dawn posts and then take credit when we win rather than having to like figure out you or this game
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 12:43 GMT
#1844
On June 08 2017 21:40 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 21:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 21:32 Tubesock wrote:
On June 08 2017 21:20 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock who do you think is mafia?


I'm starting to think more about BH. I realized I don't trust him. He's said pretty towny things and makes me laugh. He's really buddying up to you and I think that's shady. Reminds me too much of Darth P(something) and Geript. He gives the token "oh I distrust HF totally" blah blah but would follow any of your plays. I don't for a second think he's "keeping his eye on you".


Do you actually not think even for a second that I am keeping my eye on HF? tsk tsk


Semantics. You're definitely in tune with him. So I guess you DO have your eye on him.

Yeah like in fact the reason I am suspicious of him is THAT I am in tune with him. Probably the towniest thing HF has done in the last 12 hours is throw some token suspicion on me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 12:44 GMT
#1846
On June 08 2017 21:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 21:40 Tubesock wrote:
On June 08 2017 21:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 21:32 Tubesock wrote:
On June 08 2017 21:20 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock who do you think is mafia?


I'm starting to think more about BH. I realized I don't trust him. He's said pretty towny things and makes me laugh. He's really buddying up to you and I think that's shady. Reminds me too much of Darth P(something) and Geript. He gives the token "oh I distrust HF totally" blah blah but would follow any of your plays. I don't for a second think he's "keeping his eye on you".


Do you actually not think even for a second that I am keeping my eye on HF? tsk tsk


Semantics. You're definitely in tune with him. So I guess you DO have your eye on him.

Yeah like in fact the reason I am suspicious of him is THAT I am in tune with him. Probably the towniest thing HF has done in the last 12 hours is throw some token suspicion on me.

Though admittedly before this he did fakeclaim blue at Vivax to force him to back down which I'm still considering may have been a highly town play (since scum wouldn't be sure that Vivax was fakeclaiming the red check) but might have just been supremely ballsy or perhaps I'm missing something
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 18:39 GMT
#1895
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Vigis: Please don't shoot me though
Mafia: Please shoot me
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 18:40 GMT
#1898
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 18:40 GMT
#1899
I mean, that and the fact we mislynched
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 18:46 GMT
#1903
On June 09 2017 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good

It was never good when I played with you :o

Yeah see if Vivax had flipped scum I'd be able to rebut you super duper hard right here
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 18:49 GMT
#1906
On June 09 2017 03:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good

It was never good when I played with you :o

Yeah see if Vivax had flipped scum I'd be able to rebut you super duper hard right here

I mean hit town more with your RNG when I played with you :o

First off, RNG will not in fact hit scum at a rate higher than chance. It definitely won't hit scum more than it hits town. That's literally the point of RNG.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 08 2017 18:50 GMT
#1907
RNG's value isn't in that it's likely to land on scum; it's on complicated things that have to do with generating conversation, how likely it is to actually get pushed and lunch someone. etc.
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