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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:21 GMT
#2165
On June 09 2017 12:19 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.


I mean on the flip side, he could be confident that you're mafia and is trying to figure out the second one, so he reads grack. grack turns out to be town, now he's sure you're teamed with mafia and possible +1. He's looking to see if there is any way his claim can make a possible scum realm within blue claims, so maybe he waits a little bit (or he's busy, seems like he's a busy person). he sees HF claims vigi, ritoky sees this and claims cop, mafia team is you-TW, checkmate mafia?

that might have been his thought process when making that play. so what makes you not mafia? like no offense you have 11 pages of filter and I'm not seeing you doing anything


I did try to do stuff but then got it shut down and I more of a sheeper anyways as town. Also I do see your point he could of done that but he could of also tried to make sure his read is correct first before doing. He could of done either action.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:23 GMT
#2166
On June 09 2017 12:20 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.


more as in "idk who's scum"

anyway I think HF looks good because when he retracted his blue claim I immediately thought he was still blue and just retracted it to dodge a nightkill

hard to believe everyone wanted TW dead and then switched to fidei lol, so I'll look into ritoky first

but we also have to look into the order in which the claims happened etc.

Out of the blues that claimed TW first then HF then ritoky.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:32 GMT
#2173
On June 09 2017 12:28 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:20 Prison Break wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.


more as in "idk who's scum"

anyway I think HF looks good because when he retracted his blue claim I immediately thought he was still blue and just retracted it to dodge a nightkill

hard to believe everyone wanted TW dead and then switched to fidei lol, so I'll look into ritoky first

but we also have to look into the order in which the claims happened etc.

Out of the blues that claimed TW first then HF then ritoky.


yes, but I mean looking at if the order gives us a better read on them. why would they do this as mafia:

TW claimed cause he was about to get lynched that day so his timing isn't giving towncreds

HF claimed for seemingly no real reason, and I keep thinking how the vivax redcheck on HF couldn't have been staged by HF so if HF is mafia it's not cause he set it up, but purely coincidence

Why does ritoky claim as mafia, did he have pressure? or does he think he can get both HF and TW killed? (not ruling that possibility out)


I honestly thinking TW is faked due to that plus how HF did hint about being blue with how he was kept saying that TW wasn't the doctor and shit.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 16:56 GMT
#2248
On June 10 2017 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
Also in so far as tw claiming rb all game, if he's the fake doc they could be paranoid of a vet and rb every person they kill and he just claims it.

I was thinking that too honestly. I remember in my first newbie game Superbia who was scum kept claiming to be roleblocked all game long because they roleblocked their night kills if I remember correctly.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 18:36 GMT
#2256
On June 10 2017 03:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Of all the scum games I saw one cop claim from him in imperial mafia but you weren't in that game.

I remember that game because I was shadowing Palmar. God damn sicklucker with that fake cop claim as town :\
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 18:41 GMT
#2258
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:23 GMT
#2275
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:25 GMT
#2276
On June 10 2017 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
I think tw might be rber

I didn't see this post until I just posted my potential scum list lmao.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:26 GMT
#2277
On June 10 2017 04:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 03:52 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:37 ritoky wrote:
I don't fully think I understand UK politics. So is Theresa May going to stay PM or just interim through Brexit Negotiations? And why isn't the Northern Ireland party basically holding the government ransom for a huge cut of the pie? (that's how us obstructionist Americans do it)


The conservatives don't have a majority in the house of commons to do anything so in order to maintain the majority of 326(i think?) seats they have to form a coalition with another party. The other parties with seats are all left/centre parties and so won't agree.

The DUP (homophobic/abti abortion/creationist Irish nuts) are the only ones willing to do so and they will absolutely be demanding a lot of their policies will be shoved through. Bear in mind they won't be able to do anything of their wishes if they didn't form this coalition either.

Theresa May will remain PM but she lost so much of her party power that people are calling for her to resign because she basically called an election to get more power and ended up with almost no power.

I'm happy London almost unanimously voted Labour and saw sense. The rest of the country are a bunch of degenerate cockwombles though.

I don't think Theresa May will remain PM for very long, she'll probably resign within the week.


I feel like there's tons of intricate things here that I probably should know, but why would she resign? I know she doesn't have the public mandate she was looking for, but for all intents and purposes isn't she still the leader of the majority party? Why would you willingly abdicate power? Or did she lose key members who supported her in the election turnover or? And is there a better conservative alternative? From what I read the next guy up is a douche canoe.


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I can't understand why it's so difficult for the Brits to realize that Lord Buckethead is the only politician (and intergalactic overlord) that truly represents the interests of the common folk.

Why the host is talking about politics in the game thread rolf.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:27 GMT
#2278
On June 10 2017 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
I think tw might be rber

I didn't see this post until I just posted my potential scum list lmao.

But to be real though it would explain why they would switch to James over lynching TW.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:37 GMT
#2281
PB we both got Tubesock as PoE scum and I know you got doubts of my alignment but no worries HF should just shoot me if TW flips roleblocker and we would win the game from there.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:39 GMT
#2283
On June 10 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
And his switch was very carefree I liked it a lot

Switching from roleblocker to GF would better than losing the roleblocker to be fair there since the roleblocker could still block cop checks and your shot too.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:42 GMT
#2284
On June 10 2017 04:37 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction.

For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable?

Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or?

Part of my HF read was paranoia especially Day 1 and ritoky did called me out on that and moved him to null. Didn't like his trolling to me towards EoD 2. Now I think his attacking TW's doc claim since Day 1 lines up with him actually being blue.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:45 GMT
#2287
On June 10 2017 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
And his switch was very carefree I liked it a lot

Switching from roleblocker to GF would better than losing the roleblocker to be fair there since the roleblocker could still block cop checks and your shot too.


No it looked natural

I guess? Let me recheck his switch to James EoD 1.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:49 GMT
#2289
On June 10 2017 04:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction.

For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable?

Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or?

Part of my HF read was paranoia especially Day 1 and ritoky did called me out on that and moved him to null. Didn't like his trolling to me towards EoD 2. Now I think his attacking TW's doc claim since Day 1 lines up with him actually being blue.


what specifically made my claim most believable?

I found one of your bread crumbs to be very similar to how you treated malongo in I'm the Cop You Idiot Town Revenge trying to force him to hard claim his role and plus your checks make sense although i wish you checked me Night 1. Plus I found you pretty townie too before the claim anyways.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:51 GMT
#2290
This was the post where I did find one of your breadcrumbs ritoky:
On June 09 2017 12:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:15 Conversion wrote:
really? I read through ritoky and it seems his play seems to sort of center around his checks.

On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:
i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb

fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.

reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.

btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.

tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.

grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.

BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.

onegu...flip a coin.


D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards.

D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him.

claims D3, confirmed cop.

either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim.

TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd?

There was this post I think might of been him bread crumbing he was blue in the first place:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 13:03 ritoky wrote:
vivax are you actually claiming for realsies? like never back down never surrender claiming? cuz i am kinda over people fake claiming and softing

He did something similar in I'm the Cop you Idiot Town's Revenge where he was the doctor trying to see if someone was really claiming or not.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:58 GMT
#2293
On June 10 2017 04:54 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


are you seriously calling me possible scum in a post I made during D2 in reply to BTDT saying I was a scum team with PB?

can you make a better case than that?

You and Tubesock are only PoE scum at this point because I townreading PB after everything..
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:59 GMT
#2294
On June 10 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Ls what makes my claim believable instead of a mafia strategy?

It seems very genuine espcally how you kept telling me he not the doctor over and over again and I kept telling you he was UnCCed. Plus if TW flips doctor you are scum so there's that from my PoV.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:00 GMT
#2297
On June 10 2017 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:54 Conversion wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


are you seriously calling me possible scum in a post I made during D2 in reply to BTDT saying I was a scum team with PB?

can you make a better case than that?

You and Tubesock are only PoE scum at this point because I townreading PB after everything I had said about his meta which HF does support as well..

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:01 GMT
#2298
On June 10 2017 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
If he flips doctor why am I mafia?

because I find ritoky's claim the most believable one out of you three given my experience with playing with his blue in Town's Revenge.
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