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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 20:49 GMT
#1655
On June 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O


he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.

erm no wait

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand

No. at no point was his vote on fidei


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.


I didn't commit to shit, I just said I'd swap if needed, decided I wasn't needed, voted vivax, and loled my way to the bank

Well at least I gave you a lot of town cred because I was super certain you pushed Fidei. That's what I get for not reading properly.


Yep, clearly you're to blame here.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 20:52 GMT
#1657
On June 08 2017 05:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O


he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.

erm no wait

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand

No. at no point was his vote on fidei


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.


I didn't commit to shit, I just said I'd swap if needed, decided I wasn't needed, voted vivax, and loled my way to the bank

Well at least I gave you a lot of town cred because I was super certain you pushed Fidei. That's what I get for not reading properly.


Yep, clearly you're to blame here.

Okay. Let's drop this.

Am I correct in thinking that you think HF is town? And I also assume HF thinks BH's town?


I think HF could well be scum. I do not extend a townread or a scumread to him. I am aware that it is inherently scummy of me not to have a strong position on HF, but basically it boils down to this: I think he has played well and actively and genially, and how I'd like town HF to play. I also think he's a slippery fucker who could do this as scum, regardless as to Vivax' alignment. He seems to think I'm town, which makes me even more suspicious of him, even though he's rate and has good reason. Yes, I'm paranoid. Yes, it's scummy of me not to give a solid read on HF. but this is what I think.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 20:56 GMT
#1659
On June 08 2017 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O


he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.

erm no wait

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand

No. at no point was his vote on fidei


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.


I didn't commit to shit, I just said I'd swap if needed, decided I wasn't needed, voted vivax, and loled my way to the bank

Well at least I gave you a lot of town cred because I was super certain you pushed Fidei. That's what I get for not reading properly.


Yep, clearly you're to blame here.

Okay. Let's drop this.

Am I correct in thinking that you think HF is town? And I also assume HF thinks BH's town?


I think HF could well be scum. I do not extend a townread or a scumread to him. I am aware that it is inherently scummy of me not to have a strong position on HF, but basically it boils down to this: I think he has played well and actively and genially, and how I'd like town HF to play. I also think he's a slippery fucker who could do this as scum, regardless as to Vivax' alignment. He seems to think I'm town, which makes me even more suspicious of him, even though he's rate and has good reason. Yes, I'm paranoid. Yes, it's scummy of me not to give a solid read on HF. but this is what I think.



Actually, this kind of non-committment is so obviously "scummy" that my willingness to say this and put myself out there in order to tell the truth is a town-tell imo
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 20:58 GMT
#1661
On June 08 2017 05:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O


he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.


Whoa, don't imply I was ever helpful, my vote was never on fidei


then i too also misinterpreted it. lol


OK just to set the record absolutely straight:

1. I never voted Fidei D1
2. I never commented on Fidei's alignment or the quality of the case against him D1
3. I moved around my vote at the end of the day, moving it from Grack (non-wagon) to Vivax (also a non-wagon)
4. I claimed I was willing to move onto Fidei if needed in order to secure the lynch, but never did this, though I was in thread until the lynch
5. After Fidei was lynched, I loudly claimed responsibility for the lynch and demanded people give me credit for it as an "honorary voter"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:00 GMT
#1663
On June 08 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.


LOL man I guess I'm not the biggest ego in this game after all..


--


I also made this post just as the lynch resolved:

On June 05 2017 09:01 Blazinghand wrote:
count me as an honorary fidei voter, unless he flips green, in which case please don't

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#1675
On June 08 2017 06:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
[quote]
erm no wait

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand

No. at no point was his vote on fidei


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.


I didn't commit to shit, I just said I'd swap if needed, decided I wasn't needed, voted vivax, and loled my way to the bank

Well at least I gave you a lot of town cred because I was super certain you pushed Fidei. That's what I get for not reading properly.


Yep, clearly you're to blame here.

Okay. Let's drop this.

Am I correct in thinking that you think HF is town? And I also assume HF thinks BH's town?


I think HF could well be scum. I do not extend a townread or a scumread to him. I am aware that it is inherently scummy of me not to have a strong position on HF, but basically it boils down to this: I think he has played well and actively and genially, and how I'd like town HF to play. I also think he's a slippery fucker who could do this as scum, regardless as to Vivax' alignment. He seems to think I'm town, which makes me even more suspicious of him, even though he's rate and has good reason. Yes, I'm paranoid. Yes, it's scummy of me not to give a solid read on HF. but this is what I think.



Actually, this kind of non-committment is so obviously "scummy" that my willingness to say this and put myself out there in order to tell the truth is a town-tell imo

But claiming your own town-tell means you're aware of it being a town-tell. It's not a "tell" if you're the one telling it.


Potayto, Potahto
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:37 GMT
#1697
On June 08 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:28 Holyflare wrote:
Last time I checked scum = scum and mafia = mafia. I don't know what dictionary you're using.

[image loading]
You should know better that scum=mafia in almost every forum.


I stand by my comment. I have not called you scum.

come on HF quit yanking the man's chain
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:37 GMT
#1698
On June 08 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
BH vs Grack was a shit fight. V vs HF wasn't.

I'm not taking the blame for that shit fight. That was all Blazinghand acting stupidly and me responding.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA you got it backwards, once again you are LYING!?!?!?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:38 GMT
#1700
On June 08 2017 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
BH vs Grack was a shit fight. V vs HF wasn't.

I'm not taking the blame for that shit fight. That was all Blazinghand acting stupidly and me responding.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA you got it backwards, once again you are LYING!?!?!?


btw this was a joke, all grack related shit is on hold until this day is over
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:42 GMT
#1706
On June 08 2017 06:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
BH vs Grack was a shit fight. V vs HF wasn't.

I'm not taking the blame for that shit fight. That was all Blazinghand acting stupidly and me responding.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA you got it backwards, once again you are LYING!?!?!?

You both are at fault for the fight between each other.


+ Show Spoiler [meme] +
[image loading]


On June 08 2017 06:39 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
BH vs Grack was a shit fight. V vs HF wasn't.

I'm not taking the blame for that shit fight. That was all Blazinghand acting stupidly and me responding.


And that was one of he reasons I scummed BH.


OK but like, and I hate to beat a dead horse here, Grack literally said provably false things, even if you think he did so unknowingly.

On June 08 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
BH vs Grack was a shit fight. V vs HF wasn't.

I'm not taking the blame for that shit fight. That was all Blazinghand acting stupidly and me responding.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA you got it backwards, once again you are LYING!?!?!?


btw this was a joke, all grack related shit is on hold until this day is over

..............I went full Romanian then.


I don't get the reference

On June 08 2017 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:39 Tubesock wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
BH vs Grack was a shit fight. V vs HF wasn't.

I'm not taking the blame for that shit fight. That was all Blazinghand acting stupidly and me responding.


And that was one of he reasons I scummed BH.

Now I enjoy his antics.


</3
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:45 GMT
#1709
So I'm actually quite comfy with this Vivax lynch today. I'm just chilling for the next couple of hours. I'm taking questions if anyone has any.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 21:46 GMT
#1710
On June 08 2017 06:45 Grackaroni wrote:
It's ok Blazinghand.

It's ok to be wrong.

I forgive you.

+ Show Spoiler +


Ah, you think it's okay to be wrong, and forgive me for not thinking so and calling you out about it?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:39 GMT
#1728
On June 08 2017 08:38 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.


For what it's worth I feel like the people not townreading me are doing it cause of me being scum last game mainly. It's no coincidence that you, me and TW all get heavy pressure

I feel like people are just ignoring a lot of stuff, like point out scummy things I'm doing, no they ignore Fidei vs me, and the fact my opinion/reads are almost the same as a lot of people. And I'm still someone possible scum but I don't see any good arguments for it

That said I do have a problem keeping up with the thread


FWIW I think things will probably calm down overnight to some extent and give you time to gather thoughts before daybreak
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:50 GMT
#1731
On June 08 2017 08:46 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys know if Vivax is town I'm gloating.

>solo vote on ritoky
>mfw
laughinggirlsjpg
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:50 GMT
#1732
On June 08 2017 08:49 Vivax wrote:
Just lynch HF tomorrow.


Man stop tryna make me nervous Vivax we got you nailed
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:52 GMT
#1734
On June 08 2017 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:46 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys know if Vivax is town I'm gloating.

>solo vote on ritoky
>mfw
laughinggirlsjpg

TW keeps track of who votes on mafia at the end of the day and I need to up my stats.

so you don't think HF is scum at all?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:56 GMT
#1737
On June 08 2017 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:46 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys know if Vivax is town I'm gloating.

>solo vote on ritoky
>mfw
laughinggirlsjpg

TW keeps track of who votes on mafia at the end of the day and I need to up my stats.

so you don't think HF is scum at all?

Not more than my usual wariness of Holyflare.

He's right that he can pretty much never be solidly town in a game again.

bleagh well at least I can say your voting is logically consistent with your talk then. So you're not a liar about this at least

anyways, you can apologize for being wrong after Vivax flips scum. I'll be waiting.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:57 GMT
#1739
On June 08 2017 08:55 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:49 Vivax wrote:
Just lynch HF tomorrow.


If you flip VT, which I doubt since I think you're scum, then really I don't understand your play at all, and you/others kept saying you wouldn't do this as VT either

If HF didn't fake blue, then the real blue would've been outed because why? I don't get it


Thought process being used here:

1) assume Tumblewood is real Doctor
2) Assume we only have two blues
3) Vivax claims Cop
4) Now, a hidden Cop thinks, "Vivax must be scum, because I am the real cop"
5) Enough time goes by, if it looks Vivax won't get lynched, the hidden cop counterclaims to make it true
6) this is really convenient for Scum Vivax, because now his final teammate catches a cop
7) this gets averted by HF's fake blueclaim

not saying this is true, but this is the thought process
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 07 2017 23:57 GMT
#1740
On June 08 2017 08:57 Vivax wrote:
I fully expect BH to bus HF at full speed very soon if I'm right btw


Flip scum and stop talking in 3 minutes kiddo
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:00 GMT
#1741
You know if Vivax were really town he'd have some non-trash final post, something other than "expect BH to bus"; I'm town as heck. Cause he'd want town to win. but he doesn't. I'm confident he'll flip scum.
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