Newbie Student Mafia XXVI - Page 11

On June 08 2017 04:00 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't forget btdt's rage quitting at all. I'll be frank here, I think vivax is probably town but I'm not not lynching him because that town read is marginally bigger than an already massive scum read.

But that's tonally only. Evidence based then vivax is locked mafia. But my gut says otherwise so like a good trooper I'm already going for that eventuality even if it proves futile after his flip.

On June 08 2017 04:11 ritoky wrote:
Also regarding Vivax, I get the argument that grack makes for how your play can come from a place of town anger and frustration.....but I have a hard time believing that you never once considered "what if everyone believes me and i am wrong? with this play". You take town from a place of lynching mafia to lynching back to back townies most likely.

Also why did you feel you had to make a play like this, you thought there's no way you can get hf lynched through conventional means?

On June 08 2017 04:21 ritoky wrote:


why isn't HF town? fear? respect? or something in particular?

On June 08 2017 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
It's all your fault.

Also tw isn't the unCCd doctor. He's mafia.

On June 08 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Tone: town
Evidence/factual/logically: mafia

Tone can be faked

On June 08 2017 04:38 ritoky wrote:
Can I take a moment to laugh at the dumpster fire that is my country right now? I just read the opening statement Comey is going to give tomorrow, and all I can do is laugh in pain.

On June 08 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
vivax could maybe be town here but I just can't accept this kind of play. either he's mafia and needs to be lynched or he's town and deserves to be punished for being such a dumbass

On June 08 2017 05:07 beentheredonethat wrote:

Bah. Bah, for real.

Before Vivax unclaimed, lynching Vivax as the claimed cop would've been a travesty to the game of mafia.

Now you say "uh I think he's town but I'll stick with it and lynch him anyways".
No! If you genuinely think he is town, then you are perfectly capable of talking people out of the lynch.

It's things like this that make me mad, you know.

On June 08 2017 05:10 Holyflare wrote:


Yehhhh boi no towny wants to fake red check me a day after we lynch mafia.

On June 08 2017 05:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
This is amazing.
When Vivax had claimed: "Let's lynch the cop over the red-check"
When Vivax unclaimed: "I think he's town but let's lynch him anyways"

Take a step back guys and realize: we all townread Vivax apparently because what he did was bad as scum as well as as town. Like, really bad. Not just a bit bad. And while we all want to see blood, we won't fare well if we lynch a townie today. I'd lynch a lurker (yo, Prison Break, that's you) over Vivax any time.

And of course I'll take the second nomination for worst player 2017 if it turns out I hard defended scum twice :D

On June 08 2017 05:14 Tumblewood wrote:

sorry, I get what you're saying, but even if I knew for a fact vivax was town I would still do this. not that I've ever seen a bad fakeclaim and didn't think the guy was likely mafia, but I have too much respect for myself to prioritize a slightly better chance of the win over letting people get away with this shit

On June 08 2017 05:16 ritoky wrote:


oh please with the white knighting "good gameplay". either you think he's mafia cuz there's no sense to the play as town and lynch him or you don't.

On June 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:

if you're scum and you have 6 votes on you a few hours from deadline are you just gonna stick with a claim no one believes? you've gotta do everything you can to make people second-guess it.

On June 08 2017 05:28 beentheredonethat wrote:

Yeah. I think he's town. I'll be the auto lynch if he flips red :D (and probably if he flips green too) at this point so why not ride or die and brag post game if he flips green?

On June 08 2017 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:


Why not? because we should try to win. This... sigh. this seems obvious to me. I feel like... people should care about winning.

Look dude. If you think Vivax is town, and HF is scum (and your vote is currently on HF) then you know, at least give it the college try

sigh

On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O

On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:


he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.

On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.

On June 08 2017 05:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well I don't think I'll avert the Vivax wagon at this point. And I don't know if I even want to try to do so in a serious way since Vivax disappeared yet again, which contradicts his efforts earlier. When he continued playing after rescinding, I thought he's trying to reason.

Also to be perfectly honest here - if we don't lynch Vivax (or, technically, HF) anytime soon then this whole day is a waste.