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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 14 2017 21:16 GMT
#1477
On May 15 2017 06:14 Skynx wrote:
Btw I'm so not definitely mafia with Grack, just so you guys know.


Did you a think a lot about it?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 14 2017 21:17 GMT
#1478
On May 15 2017 06:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 06:15 Palmar wrote:
On May 15 2017 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
grack asks why not to kill fuba and 2 ppl lay out reasons, even palmar says not to lynch
grack wants skynx kill
grack hammers fuba???

Maybe you should have hammered grack ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You seem pretty happy right now Palmar.


LOL heading into pure mafia scum territory.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 14 2017 21:58 GMT
#1483
I'm mostly really surprised that me, HF and Palmar just kind of looked at fuba again and came to the conclusion he was town.

I'm even more surprised that they also still wanted to kill each other afterwards. They're just both town I think.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 14 2017 22:13 GMT
#1485
On May 15 2017 07:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
why did you ignore everything everyone said then grack?

You guys didn't offer any good reasoning for him being town. Don't act like you all gave overwhelming reasoning to save him and I ignored you. I asked you which posts you liked and you said you liked his response to you. I expected mafia would put resistance to being lynched and didn't see anything townie in his response.


What was my reasoning for him being town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 14 2017 22:30 GMT
#1487
Tbh this town needs a mayor.
Tomorrow we will hold a mayor election if it's ok with our host Palmar.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 06:10 GMT
#1498
If you don't lynch skynx tomorrow I swear on me mum
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 07:39 GMT
#1502
I've been wanting to lynch skynx for two days and if I'm right with your alignment his wagon yesterday was yet again pure, plus Grack's vote on him looks like BS considering he didn't manage to reach the conclusion we both reached on fuba after a reread.

Also pretty much he has yelled at me for not voting him, pushed me, and then told people not to go off fuba.

And Palmar is just blind on the skynx side. There are so many nonsensical, weird posts from Skynx that you've got to be god awful at this game to not see he is mafia and he just replied to them noticing nothing of the sort.

Like this one:

On May 15 2017 05:49 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:48 Palmar wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote:
Shennanying is not the right play here imo. fuba has to go.

This is a bad lynch Skynx, find another one.

I'm trying but imagine a case where I get 2 more votes on Vivax, mafia will just consolidate on fuba and get credit.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 07:42 GMT
#1503
Nonsensical weird posts would be okay for someone who is known for it but not for the guy who got a best newbie award in his town games. You can find enough instances of fake and made up posts I have already mentioned, and very little good observations and attention to details I know him for when he's town and actually makes good reads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 07:50 GMT
#1504
Not sure if tomorrow I'll care enough not to just tunnel the shit out of skynx all day long if I'm alive. Last day was a complete letdown, you can talk and philosophize all day long about things and then at deadline the majority of players aren't even around to change their votes when town has the most leverage over other players who only barely post cause they know that no one is around to get them lynched anyway.

Also zero compliance in just seeing how many are actually around to switch their votes it's like everyone is glued to their chairs with their vote.

Also when I put arguments out for skynx being mafia nobody picks up on them, nobody. And I'm keeping it extra simple this game. Meanwhile you Palmar and rayn only are busy trying to kill each other since the game started so you pretty much lost all credibility you had cause it's so stupid to do the same mistake you announced you would make. Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results etc. I keep wondering if you get kicks off it just tunneling the shit out of each other.

But by now of the three I think Palmar has the best shot at being mafia as well. And yet tomorrow I will only vote skynx.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 08:56 GMT
#1506
Screw everything I said. I need to revisit it all, whatever conclusion I reach, it still doesn't feel satisfying and I'm getting cold feet when rereading skynx.

There's something seriously wrong with this game
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 10:30 GMT
#1515
On May 15 2017 05:00 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax



On May 15 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote:
Shennanying is not the right play here imo. fuba has to go.


On May 15 2017 06:00 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


Palmar until you see this you are mafia. When you see it maybe I'll think about it.

Everyone else is probably just bad but if you don't see this you are mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 10:31 GMT
#1517
Ya can't even argue that it was self preservation cause then he would have voted fuba if he meant what he said...
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 10:45 GMT
#1519
On May 15 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
Was skynx on fuba?


11 minutes for a yes/no question that's verified by a glance at one votecount?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 11:11 GMT
#1531
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 11:13 GMT
#1533
On May 15 2017 20:11 Palmar wrote:
So I read Skynx filter. I'm torn.

I was hoping to come away with an easy townlean, but meh. The problem is that he has just done so very, very little this game. Even at 6 pages of filter it feels very filled with just questions and small talk. However he did take some rather bold stances in the early game and he has been continually updating people on his gamestate, so maybe he is town.

If anything I would say leave it be for now.


The early game is what looked awful already during D1.

I guess you are mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 11:21 GMT
#1535
On May 15 2017 20:15 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 20:11 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.

Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched.


Am I supposed to explain you your own mindset now? I don't even know why you voted me off in the first place and most of all are the only guy to struggle TRing me. Like a carbon copy of Grack during D1.

Why would you push for everyone to stay on fuba and then vote HF out of the blue???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 11:36 GMT
#1540
Well his argument is that as scum his vote purely for his own survival would have been better placed on fuba cause he already had the most votes.

But the initial argument is that he scumread fuba and wanted him lynched pretty badly and he actually ended up placing it on HF during that wifom minute. So that makes it look like he simply didn't care who got lynched there.

Also here's a recap for what I wrote during D1 which imho are all pretty good scumtells.

For Palmar apparently it's the opposite and him being so confident isn't scummy cause he would be afraid of showing TMI. He's saying that cause he's displaying TMI, but Palmar says he isn't mafia cause as mafia he would think that he would be displaying TMI, so according to Palmar no mafia ever shows TMI cause they never make mistakes.

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 11 2017 19:26 Vivax wrote:
Is skynx a mafia god or just mafia? He's confident AF into townreads on good scum players without the big posts that usually accompany them when he's town.


On May 11 2017 22:18 Vivax wrote:
Skynx has been more contributive than fuba in darthfoley but in my opinion in the wrong ways. I just don't see how he jumps to conclusions so quickly without a shade of doubt about events and reads. Like his rayn vs Grack thingy and his townread list. Feels to me like he's just getting on the good side of the most active players and doesn't try to fight his TMI in order to not ruffle any feathers. Most of his reads lack explanation and meta wise I have seen him raise good points when he was town, I also have been always able to correctly identify him as town but you will have to take my word for that.

Also, in a nutshell, he hasn't been hunting scum.

This is the best case I think I have and I'm voting accordingly.


On May 11 2017 22:24 Vivax wrote:
I was thinking of lynching the least contributive like df, fuba. Then realized that skynx has been sort of more contributive than them. But then I also realized that he has been the scum sort of contributive, polished and too correct and sort of laid back (doesn't apply to HF when he's scum) and all that stuff came to mind.

It might not be super convincing to you cause maybe you're tunneled on someone in a feud, but I think that in the process of yelling at each other you tend to forget what to really look for in scum. I'm sort of sure that skynx is scum for the reasons in the post above.



Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 11:59 GMT
#1545
More likely LS than Grack if Palmar is mafia. I just hope he isn't mindfucking us with his constant half-assed push on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 13:04 GMT
#1552
On May 15 2017 21:34 Palmar wrote:
Can you do me a favor Vivax?

I need you to pretend, for this exercise, that you have a green check on me. Aka, I'm confirmed town. I want to know how you think when you're in my world because you can't double check my conclusions while thinking I may be mafia.

Now, with the "knowledge" that I am 100% town, can you give me your read and feelings about Holyflare. Is it possible that I am wrong on him being mafia if I know he's basically only tried to kill townies in my world.

rayn: probably town
damdred: town
fuba: town
me: town

I think this mostly covers what hf has tried to accomplish this game. Is there a chance he's just wrong (in the palmar = town world).

Because if you can convince me he's not mafia, the game becomes exponentially easier.


Fine. I laid out already at one point why I thought he was town, what's giving me a halt is the following, possibly more as I read on:

On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present.

Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you.


On May 11 2017 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
You guys are boring. Lynch tw or rayn plz.


First thing that I don't understand here is how post #1 sounds like he's reading Grack as scum or presenting arguments for him being scum and then concludes that someone entirely else is scum. TW for "quite blatantly throwing a jab at his direction" and rayn cause what the hell do I know since you three are always finding reasons to kill each other.

Either way I would expect him to have scumread Grack past that post so I can't figure out why it didn't happen.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22087 Posts
May 15 2017 13:16 GMT
#1554
Otherwise I like that he TR Damdred and foley when barely anyone else was. Don't like so much that he ended up voting Damdred but the alternative was DF so can't really blame him for that vote as it was a pick your poison situation.
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