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On May 11 2017 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:
why you guys trying to settle on to lynching low activity players? Why can't we lynch HF?
Why do you want to lynch HF? Linking games is a great way of pretending to case knowing that most of us are lazy assholes who won't actually ready his filter in another game. You claimed he was nitpicky but i kinda feel that's how rayn and hf are regardless of alignments. idk
Who else are you suspicious of outside of HF?
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On May 12 2017 03:52 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 06:34 Damdred wrote:
I powered through the thread while I was up.
To start off questions
@PrisonBreak (I believe), my initial assessment of LS scum etc was a joke. My follow up post of Rayns towniness was not a joke, it came from sort of bad reasoning as he can fake it potentially as scum. But I really liked that his first post was trying to discern who you were so that (presumably) he could better read you and come to a better conclusion. I would generally see thi scome from more town than scum as scum would not want that information really to come to life. But as I said it is partially a bad reason at that point.
As to people who said Damdred can do this as scum, YES! I can, I have and I will do it as both alignments. I've always tried to shape my game where I can do whatever I want from solving the game (or trying to), giving up teammates etc as either alignment. Though I know I still have some ticks as mafia I have a hard time getting rid of. But kind of meh about DF (I believe it was) who only looked at me negatively because of it.
As for my reads here we are:
These are the people i'm ok reading town currently
LS
Rayn
Palmar
Prison Break
Skynx
Maybe town:
Grack
HF
I would normally want to make a call about tumble, and my initial reaction to some of his off the collar commentary I think would come from his town game rather than his scum game. But I am horrid at looking at him so i'm just kind of ignoring him currently.
I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.
Fuba is someone also that I think might be worth a look into later, initial reaction was he might be town just as a gut feeling. His reasoning for following PB I felt was a bit lakluster and was something i've seen mafia do to shift the blame to the person they sheep instead of taking personal responbility for it. Also him refusing to post reads to push the game forward bothered me, or rather him thinking they wouldn't push the game forward. I still sort of see him as a big bag of blah null for now.
Currently I just kind of want to lynch DF for some below average postings for him and him picking on me :'( Why is LS town?
This is a good question
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On May 11 2017 06:34 Damdred wrote:
I powered through the thread while I was up.
To start off questions
@PrisonBreak (I believe), my initial assessment of LS scum etc was a joke. My follow up post of Rayns towniness was not a joke, it came from sort of bad reasoning as he can fake it potentially as scum. But I really liked that his first post was trying to discern who you were so that (presumably) he could better read you and come to a better conclusion. I would generally see thi scome from more town than scum as scum would not want that information really to come to life. But as I said it is partially a bad reason at that point.
As to people who said Damdred can do this as scum, YES! I can, I have and I will do it as both alignments. I've always tried to shape my game where I can do whatever I want from solving the game (or trying to), giving up teammates etc as either alignment. Though I know I still have some ticks as mafia I have a hard time getting rid of. But kind of meh about DF (I believe it was) who only looked at me negatively because of it.
As for my reads here we are:
These are the people i'm ok reading town currently
LS
Rayn
Palmar
Prison Break
Skynx
Maybe town:
Grack
HF
I would normally want to make a call about tumble, and my initial reaction to some of his off the collar commentary I think would come from his town game rather than his scum game. But I am horrid at looking at him so i'm just kind of ignoring him currently.
I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.
Fuba is someone also that I think might be worth a look into later, initial reaction was he might be town just as a gut feeling. His reasoning for following PB I felt was a bit lakluster and was something i've seen mafia do to shift the blame to the person they sheep instead of taking personal responbility for it. Also him refusing to post reads to push the game forward bothered me, or rather him thinking they wouldn't push the game forward. I still sort of see him as a big bag of blah null for now.
Currently I just kind of want to lynch DF for some below average postings for him and him picking on me :'(
Bad reasons to scum read me, no reason listed to town read skynx.
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On May 12 2017 03:54 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 23:39 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends! According to your meta grack is mafia early on for backing down easily from a 1 on 1. He's voting the most town in the thread tho with the same way, is he town to you now?
I'm not sure I follow, can you rephase?
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On May 12 2017 04:12 Skynx wrote:
You still around df?
Eating lunch quickly
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On May 12 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:D1: Vote Count 3
Vivax (0) - Holyflare
raynpelikoneet (0) - Holyflare
fuba (0) - sicklucker
Holyflare (1) - raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike
Palmar (0) - Grackaroni, Grackaroni
Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, Vivax, sicklucker
sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba
Vivax (0) - Grackaroni
darthfoley (2) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
Tumblewood (0) - Holyflare
Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
Skynx (1) - darthfoley
Not voting (4) - Damdred, Tumblewood, Skynx, Holyflare
Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched in (at Thursday, May 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
Voting is mandatory.
Report any errors in the vote count to the hosts via PM, kkthxbye 
Vivax and I are both voting Skynx currently btw
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On May 12 2017 04:24 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2017 04:21 darthfoley wrote:On May 12 2017 04:12 Skynx wrote:
You still around df? Eating lunch quickly I was gona say, my problem with your intro is how your 1st post is very conclusive meta read while the guy you're reading is on borderline troll mode.
Fwiw I was reading the first 10-15 pages from the beach while everyone was getting hammered around me. Didn't really have enough time to thoroughly read through shit which I guess is my bad if it gets me killed.
I have felt more comfortable with Grack's play as of late because I think he's looking in the right places, like Damdred and pushing back against Palmar but not in a scummy way.
Also posts like this remind me of the games i've seen him play after he comes down from rage heaven
On May 11 2017 21:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Rereading, I also don't actually think any of DF's posts are bad posts. I just called him out because he was one of the people attacking me.
Idk, I still feel like he was a bit too passive early game in his responses, but his play recently has picked up. Compare that to other players (Skynx, fuba, Damdred, LS, sl) and I feel like his play has been more natural, engaged, townie.
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Yes Damdred could well be mafia
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Don't lynch me, because I'm not mafia
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Well if you lynch me please lynch rayn right after because he's either too stubborn for his own good or he's mafia.
You're incessant rage for no reason is rather annoying. You've been tunneling me all day and making anything I do for your narrative that I'm scum.
I have no idea why you're allergic to considering players whose filters are very bad and have scummy tendencies.
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On May 12 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).
##unvote
##vote darthfoley
I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.
Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."
Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).
So there is that, now i am off to work. I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less. Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding. If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.
I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude
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I will lynch anyone that isn't me if it's between me and random person alignment
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If I get lynched D1 for an uber shitty OMGUS case from Rayn, Damdred who's been both scummy and AFK, and X amount of other idiots, I will be very annoyed.
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On May 12 2017 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:On May 12 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).
##unvote
##vote darthfoley
I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.
Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."
Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).
So there is that, now i am off to work. I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less. Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding. If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours. I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude What i meant was that you've backed off from everything you have done or "don't know what to make of it". Not that you haven't done anything. Can you please even try to understand what i wrote and not do this dumbass AtE shit that didn't work for you last game either?
Considering I lost my partner D1 and fooled you and the rest of the town into a f3, I would say my play worked last fame.
The problem with comparing it to my current game is that in this game I'm town!
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On May 12 2017 05:41 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really like the DF case tbh. I don't see anything scummy in there.
there literally isn't a case.
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On May 12 2017 05:44 Grackaroni wrote:
I guess it kind of looks like it's between Foley and me atm since I was the first to two.
Compromise onto fuba? Idk the dude hasn't done anything
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I also think Damdred is a good vote and i'm willing to switch to Damdred
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i'm being voted on by rayn, TW, and damdred.
WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS A TOWN INFLUENCED WAGON
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On May 12 2017 05:47 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2017 05:45 darthfoley wrote:On May 12 2017 05:44 Grackaroni wrote:
I guess it kind of looks like it's between Foley and me atm since I was the first to two. Compromise onto fuba? Idk the dude hasn't done anything I don't really think Fuba is scum either though. Right now I'm thinking about Skynx/Vivax/Damdred/HF and even Rayn because he seems so eager to push through this case that seems pretty contrived to me.
Well i'm fine with Damdred or Skynx
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