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Grackaroni
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beentheredonethat
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Day 6, Vote Count 1 Grackaroni (2) - LightningStrike, Prison Break Not voting (1) - Grackaroni Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched (at Friday, May 26 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory. | ||
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LightningStrike
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On May 27 2017 02:54 Grackaroni wrote: I can take a look and write something up if you're considering it. Go ahead I might be interested in what you say about his filter. | ||
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Prison Break
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it doesn't help that he's willing to switch to me now, because if he thinks lightningstrike is scum, then it's better to try to convince me to lynch lightningstrike instead, but he gave up pretty quickly on that after I made my intention clear I want to see gracks flip because I think we won this game. him saying I played brilliant if I was scum but bad if I was town could be a method to manipulate me into unvoting, because no one wants to be called bad on their first game, obviously. but I'm not going to fall for that I just can't see lightningstrike leaving me alive here, so it's pretty auto from my PoV | ||
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Grackaroni
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Prison Break is clearly very stubborn. He was really upset after we lynched Fuba ignoring HF/SL on day 2. On May 15 2017 10:32 Prison Break wrote: FUCK why did we lynch fuba, he was a HARD townread + I explained this, and he ALSO went after sicklurker d1 guess who's on the vote.... sicklurker.... reading through the pages now to see how this unfolded. holyflare and sicklurker escaped a lynch yet again.... is this seriously going to be one of those games where I catch scum d1 and then people refuse to lynch them and keep killing townies instead? goddamn this is frustrating... He was very tunneled on SL for the entire game prior to HF flipping, and he was making a lot of reads by association with Sicklucker. These posts I flagged as suspicious even before HF flipped. I think there's too much justification for dropping his read, like he's overplaying the significance of it saying that he's going to hate himself for changing his read if HF flips scum. On May 18 2017 08:34 Prison Break wrote: Eh my theory on holyflare trying to direct a scan towards himself and then frame it so he can ride confirmed town status etc, admittedly makes less sense now due to tumblewood flipping framer and holyflare seemed extremely paranoid with arguing tumblewood could be town like why would scum ever go on and ramble about that? I can see it being town trying to figure out the set-up, unless if he's scum and wants us to fake it... so the real question is do we believe him or not.. it seemed pretty real though, can't place it in my head as scum going to think he may be town now, just don't think his current play makes sense as scum at all On May 18 2017 08:37 Prison Break wrote: if I'm wrong though I'm going to hate myself ... ugh.... I don't like changing reads but I have a bad habbit of tunneling, shouldn't be limiting myself just because I could be wrong, if he's scum and I'm wrong then that sucks, but I am confident enough in my townread to not want to lynch him today Coming into day 3 during the night he had LS/Palmar/HF as town reads with SL/me or SL/Vivax as the scum team. On May 19 2017 01:53 Prison Break wrote: I've nailed it down to this town: LS, Palmar, HF scum: Grack or Vivax scum: sicklurker but vivax pushed sicklurker, so grack is more likely. vivax did have a weird post where he'd question why people would lynch sicklurker though, which can be interpreted as softdefending. I really don't like vivax "if my townread on TW is anything like my townread on PB then he must be mafia", that sounded insincere and it's complete bullshit. what's holding me back is that vivax pushes sicklurker now as for grackeroni, he mentioned my post seemed scummy (where I went from scumreading HF to townreading him based on his posting), then when called out on it he basically retracted it pretty fast. seemed like he was trying to see if others would catch on, and when they didn't he kind of dropped it. Very scummy. If HF is town, and I went from scumreading to townreading him, then I can imagine scum being frustrated by that because they obviously want town to kill other town, so I can see this play having a scum motive. Don't see how it makes sense from town though I think 2 scum is between these 3, LS palmar have been townie all game. no way HF is scum and being that paranoid yesterday, that seemed very real and townlike. so yeah I want to lynch between these 3, and I think both scum are between them However, if you look at the posts between the night and the day 3 lynch he doesn't do anything to try to lynch me or SL. I would expect from his annoyance with Fuba being lynched that he would prod people harder to kill Sicklucker. He says he'll join the HF wagon because he doesn't want scum to decide the lynch, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that he would say that right after seeing SL push me into joining the HF wagon. It seems a lot like the behavior of somebody not wanting to look bad in case HF flips. On May 20 2017 14:12 Prison Break wrote: 4, he doesn't have lightning strike I'll vote HF because I don't want scum to decide the lynch Still not convinced you're town for the record but I'm not going to be able to convince 4 people after I've already brought up all arguments, and we need a lynch. If HF flips scum you'll receive townie points for pushing it through though At least this lynch is better than palmars because palmar got greenchecked day 1, which gives him over 67% of being town (can only frame 1 of the 3 members, aka 33% it was palmar) A lot of his posts come off as townie to me, but his posts are pretty well reasoned and concise, and I think he has the potential for a pretty strong scum game. | ||
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Prison Break
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Grackaroni
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On May 27 2017 03:58 Prison Break wrote: I still think it's grack and he hoped I would auto-lynch lightningstrike today it doesn't help that he's willing to switch to me now, because if he thinks lightningstrike is scum, then it's better to try to convince me to lynch lightningstrike instead, but he gave up pretty quickly on that after I made my intention clear I want to see gracks flip because I think we won this game. him saying I played brilliant if I was scum but bad if I was town could be a method to manipulate me into unvoting, because no one wants to be called bad on their first game, obviously. but I'm not going to fall for that I just can't see lightningstrike leaving me alive here, so it's pretty auto from my PoV I just don't like that I'm the only one filtering. I think it would be really clever if as scum you pushed LS and then killed SL and flipped based off that. Since LS already wanted to kill me before it basically ensures that I get lynched. | ||
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Prison Break
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I actively tried to get sicklurker killed throughout the game I have not been active as the same people due to time zones mainly, so often when I was online others weren't, and when others were I wasn't. but I've pushed sicklurker a lot. I didn't push you as much because I was less certain, that was more a possibility, not a hard read. I associated HF and sicklurker because of early interactions (HF kept telling me to look elsewhere), but when sicklurker hard bussed HF I knew I was obviously wrong. I don't think scum would kill him there, as they could've easily killed palmar for example, it didn't make sense for them to be a team based on that | ||
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Grackaroni
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On May 27 2017 04:00 Prison Break wrote: I don't think I played that bad, especially if I'm right on grack, but I learned a lot nonetheless. if I'm wrong on grack then lightningstrike played it excellent, but I don't see that as a likely possibility I think you played better than me whatever alignment you are. It's probably LS though. | ||
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Prison Break
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On May 27 2017 04:02 Grackaroni wrote: I just don't like that I'm the only one filtering. I think it would be really clever if as scum you pushed LS and then killed SL and flipped based off that. Since LS already wanted to kill me before it basically ensures that I get lynched. wouldn't it be smarter to leave my options open as scum? the flipflop could also be seen as suspicious. I don't think my play would be good from a scum PoV I read through the filters but nothing in it changed my mind. yes, HF pushed lightningstrike which could be scum vs scum, but that still doesn't explain the sicklurker nightkill over myself, so it is not strong enough for me to think lightningstrike is scum now | ||
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Grackaroni
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On May 27 2017 04:07 Prison Break wrote: wouldn't it be smarter to leave my options open as scum? the flipflop could also be seen as suspicious. I don't think my play would be good from a scum PoV I read through the filters but nothing in it changed my mind. yes, HF pushed lightningstrike which could be scum vs scum, but that still doesn't explain the sicklurker nightkill over myself, so it is not strong enough for me to think lightningstrike is scum now I thought it could work well as a buddying tactic. It didn't really have much of an influence on my read of you. I can't say much about the night kills. The reasoning is a bit circular. If you get killed off will SL use that as reasoning to kill LS? SL bases a lot of his reads on night kills (if you notice, he jumped to Palmar right after Darthfoley got killed on night 1). | ||
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Prison Break
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- sicklurker specifically didn't tell scum what he was going to do, so leaving him alive would be a gamble - I have been stubborn this game, so would lightningstrike really assume that I was going to change my mind based on this reasoning? it's wifom nonetheless | ||
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