Lynching Palmar isn't that hard guys, just one little sting and the game is over. He might shitpost a bit but otherwise I think the argument that HF picked himself to be lynched over him is already enough for anyone with a bit of common sense. I mean, it's obvious why he would do it. What else do you do when your buddy is greenchecked ? All the game, all the NKs have been pointing to that duo. Don't just write them off cause of a soft bus on D2.

Even if Palmar flips town, he will have more time than me to find a good lynch you can sheep. But right now it's about to become Day 5? And he has never been hit by mafia.

Vivax

22409 Posts

May 21 2017 18:51 GMT

#2602

Alone his reasoning for voting HF is : "If HF flips town I get lynched, so I don't want to push that lynch"

On May 19 2017 22:45 Palmar wrote:

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It's not insecurity you dumbass, it's desire to get things right.

Explain to me what happens if my scumread on HF is wrong, we lynch him today and he flips town. Explain to me what happens after that.

Something about 300 words essays, then "you don't lynch me today then, deal? Here's my vote on HF". Easily doing something he said he didn't want to do. His defense for HF is that he doesn't want to lynch him in self defense.

Does this alone make him 100% mafia? No. Rayn had one scumread right exactly before he died while he wasn't willing to compromise on anything else. All you could have expected from rayn this game was a vote parked on Palmar until the bitter end.

Vivax

22409 Posts

May 21 2017 19:03 GMT

#2603

And remember to send me a postcard from Palmars pocket once I flip PB.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

May 21 2017 19:55 GMT

#2604

On May 22 2017 04:03 Vivax wrote:
And remember to send me a postcard from Palmars pocket once I flip PB.

you're not even using that right

Vivax

22409 Posts

May 21 2017 20:04 GMT

#2605

On May 22 2017 04:55 Palmar wrote:

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you're not even using that right

Sounds more logical to me that mafia has town in their pocket and not the other way around.

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 21 2017 20:30 GMT

#2606

Stop posting!

Prison Break

326 Posts

May 21 2017 20:34 GMT

#2607

On May 22 2017 02:44 Vivax wrote:

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Why do you assume that mafia picks the frame randomly? Palmar is the roleblocker, had some soft suspicion on him D1, and is generally speaking the most experienced player in the game, with mafias strongest role. He gets checked N1. Do you think that he didn't see that coming?

To be honest I didn't think about it that way. In general when someone gets green checked I auto-assume it's correct because often it is, and stuff like godfather, or in this case, framer, are often unlikely.

If you guys are certain they'd frame palmar over HF i'd have to reconsider...

But it still seems strange that HF would connect to palmar so obviously by outright wanting anyone dead except him? Not sure what to think about that tbh. Palmars posts today seem very townie to me

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 21 2017 20:34 GMT

#2608

Day 5

Vivax, the Doc, has been found dead.

Day 5 has begun and will end in (at Tuesday, May 23 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

Prison Break

326 Posts

May 21 2017 20:39 GMT

#2609

Sorry about my post.

Prison Break

326 Posts

May 21 2017 20:48 GMT

#2610

I'm sold that palmar would be framed because he's rb, but, this doesn't make him scum: it just means he's not greenchecked at most. Sicklurker of course it's not a redcheck, wtf, because he'd be greenchecked as town as well. At best it's a nullcheck. Like he wasn't checked at all.

But I think HF would be trying to kill his teammate there. Because defending makes palmar look bad if HF flips, he seems like a good player so he'd do the opposite. Like he would probably attack LS Because it's so unexpected and people would assume palmar scum instead of LS... which is exactly what he wants. And setting up a mislynch before or after your death is about as good - but this way, he'd also make LS look townier. So I'm inversing my immediate thoughts (defending = scummates), because HF seems like the type to do the opposite. Basically what palmar says: mafia is manipulating people, and intentionally pocketing townies etc.

I really doubt palmar would flip mafia to be honest.

Prison Break

326 Posts

May 21 2017 20:49 GMT

#2611

I think LS or grack is the correct lynch, leaning LS

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

May 21 2017 20:59 GMT

#2612

I agree those are the options. I'm leaning grack based on how aloof he has been for so long. He seems to care very little about the game

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

May 21 2017 21:03 GMT

#2613

grack is a better lynch then ls. but id go with palmar personally

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

May 21 2017 22:28 GMT

#2614

So yeah, gonna stick my vote on Grack for now.

I think SL and PB are off the table for me. SL because he doesn't have any endgame if he is mafia. He is completely and fiercely adamant that I must be mafia, ignoring the fact that if he was mafia he'd know I'm not. If he lynches me and I flip town, he's gonna be, as mafia, put into a terrible position. So I think his annoying stubbornness means he's town.

PB could, in theory, be cashing in on his one newbie win (all new people can win once as mafia because they get extra leeway. He does have a very short filter). But I think that for now I must throw that possibility away.

So it's Grack or LS. LS has shown marginally more interest in the game in the past few days so I'm going to vote Grack.