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On April 05 2017 01:02 Rels wrote: fucking dutches. No respect, they just turned our fucking flag sideways and call it their own THAT MUSIC THOUGH. THESE PEOPLE ARE TRUE MUSICIANS Or belgians | ||
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I think sicklucker prefers town over scum but I have a bad memory. I know that you prefer town over scum. | ||
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On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote: Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive. I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time. Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:16 Calix wrote: Did you miss the memo about how ALL PLAYERS can do things that 'don't make any fucking sense'? Occam's Razor points to SL not reading the OP properly. This means nothing and going "it doesn't make sense -> mafia" is a simplistic blanket argument that doesn't show any critical thinking. I want to join the range of people not having read the OP properly. I guess I should go ahead and do it. Although then again, I assume its 7 town vs 2 scum and I'm kinda happy with finding those scummers and put the whole shnick shnack aside | ||
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"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote: So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia? Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:53 Calix wrote: Also I am curious. What is the point of saying this after SL said that he doesn't 'really prefer' a particular alignment? Just a weird way to enter the thread. It's the first thing that stood out to me, and since I thought that however I start, someone will say 'what a weird entry to the thread', I just quoted it and threw my thought on it. Might as well start with whatever, you know. The point is basically that I'm not sure if we should believe the preference thing. Then again, is it alignment indicative? I dunno, nevertheless I think it's worth noting. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? yawn | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote: No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:04 Calix wrote: >thinks Koshi is worth a push >does nothing to make this happen Strong. Do you think that this is worth a push, by the way? | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote: Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote: I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames. Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read? | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote: Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. On April 06 2017 20:11 beentheredonethat wrote: Do you think that this is worth a push, by the way? I know it's dumb, but if you find me scummy, why aren't you voting me? I mean that's the major pain point you have with my Koshi stuff. I think you're constructing something and I don't understand the harsh questioning you put onto me. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote: Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense. Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"? The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me. | ||
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* is that worth a push and * why aren't you voting me still stand. Can you stop circumventing them? | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:35 Calix wrote: "I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said. Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy. I hope that clears things up. That actually makes quite a lot of sense though. But my playstyle mainly is "don't think too long about what you're saying, first and foremost you should be honest so people can put you on their townpiles". Which I totally fail to do as scum, by the way. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:36 Calix wrote: Your questions are dumb since I already answered them in my earlier posts...including ones that you RESPONDED TO. Try reading my posts -.- My point is that those are the exact same questions you asked me earlier, and instead of talking about the answers to those questions... we're going full circle. | ||
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Well you're content with it when you're scum of course. Just reading no working is fine. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote: This went dumb real quick. Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. Am I dumb or scummy? | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote: Since we established where the problem was, dumb But what changed your stance on me then? I mean you said you find me scummy and I thought it's because I say "pushworthy" while not voting Koshi. What made you dropping that? | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote: But then I might get lynched! Because I am afk the last 12 hours. You get the point, don't pretend you don't. | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:23 Calix wrote: I thought we already covered that I was talking about your play-style. You said "I didn't want to vote on something push-worthy 3 hours into the game" and that you weren't sure how to question his initial posts so I did not see the point of questioning you further when that would distract you from scum-hunting Koshi. That's a good one | ||
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Koshi says, Calix is scum because * Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction + Show Spoiler [post in question] + On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote: The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho. Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking. I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so. I like Shape but that's gut feeling. | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote: this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now I'm continuesly expressing my thoughts about Koshi. And they are not "oh he's so town" thoughts. I consider his current play to be scummy. I'm not sure how you make "does not push koshi" out of that lol. Also I like how you paint that constructed picture and then back off. Like, "oh I find that's scummy but here's the benefit of the doubt" isn't that like exactly what you think I was doing? like, y'all weigh "I think that is worth pushing" way too heavy. And with y'all I mean Calix and you, Tumble. | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:26 Shapelog wrote: Go on? And sucking up to ryan apparently? So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it? You go do that meta thing. I'm fine looking at the game info lol. I like Shape as well. I hope he wont get Nightkilled. So your where calix is hence the mind meld comment? This is actually my thoughts on him as well. The other thing I notice is that he is fine dropping a joke here and there as well, inferring that he isn't stressed at all rn. I want to see where the point goes though and more what koshi does with it. Koshi, my ears are yours. To be honest I don't know what "sucking up to rayn" means. Help me | ||
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I don't know how much you read into it or how much should be read into it. It's one notable thing and the more the game progresses, the better (or worse, lol) it will be readable | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote: Tumble is obvious town. Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons? | ||
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I think his post on my entrance adds nothing new to the thread, 1:1 repeats what Calix said and feels useless. | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:09 Shapelog wrote: + Show Spoiler + How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote: So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia? Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? Versus: If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be. this. so why townread him for this? | ||
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##vote Tumblewood do something | ||
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Not sure how to proceed from here on. I am not townreading Koshi yet it's not the same as the last game we played, like there it was super obvious to me that he was scum. And I was right. Might've been just luck but it really felt like scum!Koshi. This time around, I'm not sure. I'd just wish he'd put more effort into explaining stuff. Calix -- hmm the whole Calix Koshi Me thing and then with tumbleweed reiterating on it and shape commenting on it - it's of course easy to form a town circle of five but I don't dare to do that. oh and still, can someone explain what this "sucking up to rayn" thing means | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote: I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix. I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed. Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP Thank you so much for this I wondered about this but I forgot completely, I even have it in my filter somewhere | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:33 beentheredonethat wrote: Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"? The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me. there yeah don't get that | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote: Shapelog is question master without any reads/conclusions/thoughts of his own That's wrong, he has a clear opinion on calix/me at least, both townish | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:20 darthfoley wrote: Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally" I think I'm not scummy in most of my games. I hosty in most of my games. okay back to business. | ||
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On April 07 2017 03:07 Tumblewood wrote: how bout you do something first and I do something about that something (I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.) The main difference between us two is that I actually do something: I interact with people (i.e. making myself readable), I drop reads, I push here and pressure there, and I try to stay reasonable. You do nothing. | ||
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Are you scum Tumble | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote: I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix On April 07 2017 03:12 Tumblewood wrote: thinking shape is also town. but that read depends a lot on the progression of the thread I was able to find two. What's the third? | ||
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On April 07 2017 04:03 Tumblewood wrote: duh when I called you bad town. you are so righteous oh okay | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi said it already I cant say it any clearer. what does this refer to? | ||
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and also Rayn lol I don't have townreads apparently | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:30 Tumblewood wrote: also my spidey senses are going off on this. *pending further unspecified action* this was triggered by rayn asking me if I'd townread sicklucker. Your spidey sense suck and I will brag about it post game. | ||
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On April 07 2017 15:12 sicklucker wrote: I even went into pretty boring and long details as why i would prefer either alignment after not playing for a few months. Then a guy I have little to no history with randomly says I prefer town while seemingly missing my posts and making up a random opinion that has little value That's quite the good point. I actually don't know why I said you prefer town. Wasn't there a game that I hosted where you signed up and were all pissed you rolled scum? I might've fucked up. | ||
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On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote: Sicklucker Tumbleweed calix koshi Darthfoley Rayn shapelog beentheredonethat rels No. beentheredone raynpelikoneet Darthfoley Calix Koshi shapelog Sicklucker rels | ||
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On April 07 2017 17:18 sicklucker wrote: i like how you dont even list or agree with my town reads. what a politician drawing a line in the sand I simply keeo forgetting people since im on mobile. Rels is not dic in my eyes. Hes null. Tumble is annoying and terribly wrong | ||
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On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote: Sicklucker Tumbleweed calix koshi Darthfoley Rayn shapelog beentheredonethat rels No. beentheredone raynpelikoneet Darthfoley Rels Calix Dumbleweed Koshi shapelog Sicklucker That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone | ||
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Like, what is Tumble even doing? * starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter * puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) * enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix * his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment * BUT ends up calling me bad town * one more townread on Shape * claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels * more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why? 1. The game was posted rather spontanously. 2. The game filled up really, really fast. 3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum? 4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. | ||
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Koshi, why are you voting me? On April 07 2017 15:54 Koshi wrote: Yeah the extra smashing the keyboard out of frustration letters triggered me. okay | ||
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On April 07 2017 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry what did you say? I think btdt is mafia. uhh ok | ||
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On April 07 2017 18:59 beentheredonethat wrote: In the meantime, sicklucker and Koshi parked their votes onto me. Interestingly enough, sicklucker is apparently content with voting me while discussing with everyone else. That's amazingly bad but that's his choice. Koshi, why are you voting me? okay This was not in response to you saying I'm scum On April 07 2017 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: but sicklucker is a busser so.... i still dont care. you kinda sniped me with the scumread post | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nah i am sorry you're just scum btdt. - Forget a guy in your reads list - Make a big case on the said dude just after Mmmm... no. ok lynch me mr. 100% right and see how it goes | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nah i am sorry you're just scum btdt. - Forget a guy in your reads list - Make a big case on the said dude just after Mmmm... no. seriously whats wrong with you btdt forgets a guy gets called out for it (OH IT'S THE GUY BTDT ALREADY VOTED FOR) btdt re-evaluates the guy and makes a case uhhh what a scummy play | ||
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then: ok let's lynch him then: btdt flips vt then: oh btdt is such a bad town player can we skip all of this somehow | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: How about you explain how you got into this situation since your mr 100% guy is 100% not voting for you? hm that's right but I feel like I'm in too deep already. So first of all, I'm not putting in the efforts I should put in. I am lazy at posting - not explaining my thought process properly, nor am I reviewing my reads in a good manner. I do read the thread but I only open a filter here and there and see what to get out of it. So the consequences are that people scumread me because they have no idea about how I reached my conclusions. Which is perfectly fine, I'm more mad at myself right now. | ||
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I explained in the last big post why I scumread him. I didn't put him on my list because I simply quoted SL's list and re-arranged some names, which is really hard to do on mobile. My main point with that list was that I am seeing things different then sicklucker does which is why I did not remove the original quote. Being called out on not having Tumble on the list brought me to reviewing Tumble once more, seeing if the read I gave him in my list would be correct. So I filter dived and summarized what he actually did, then drew my conclusions from it. | ||
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Also, there was this one game where I was lynched because I claimed doc vs. the actual cop or something (nomination for worst play of 2017 included) and I think if you just skim my low volume filter there you'll find a lot of similarities to my current filter. I'm not willing to promise I'll improve but I am willing to promise that I'll try to improve. Feels bad to have thread consensus being "btdt is bad town" and it's also not really motivating to put more effort in, but then again it's my own fault. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait so you developed the scumread on him there???? oh god... Nah. I thought he's scummy in the very moment he claimed the whole mindmeld thing, especially since he didn't do anything before. Nevertheless, it's day 1, and I just waited for more stuff. More stuff came, didn't improve. You can also check the vote timing if you don't believe me that I had him as scum before. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: how did you not have tumble on your list "because" you "re-arranged sl's list" which had tumble on it? I guess I overwrote his name with another one's name to not have to fuck around with BBCode on mobile, then forgot to re-add him to the list. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me try to explain. You have a scumread on Tumblewood. You have to have had that from veeery beginning (because your case lays out things he did early on in the game - like his entering post). Now i have a hard time figuring out why someone who HAS to have the thought of "this post is scummy" doesnt (1) say that in the first place, or (2) forgets the person COMPLETELY in his first list. I don't care if you were on phone or what the fuck but your #1 scumread is always priority of discussion, always. You "considered" it #9 priority for some reason... Hm. I can see what you're coming from but in this case you either believe that I was/am absolutely lazy, not explaining my thought process properly, or you scumread me for it. I mean I voted for him 17 hours ago and have not removed my vote ever since. If that does not say "he's a scumread" well what does it then | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:16 Koshi wrote: You are defending the wrong reasons for my vote on you. Well I'm not willing to defend what you already judged. It's more about showing that I'm not scum right now and in the upcoming days, right? | ||
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Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread. However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway). I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Dude. I don't think anyone is bad town by default. At least i am trying to understand how you get into the conclusions you do. Just try to explain yourself if you're town. First of all could you answer me in what i asked you about your read progression on Calix? It's around p3-4 in my filter. The bad town thing comes from Calix and also Tumblewood (and someone else? dunno right now) I've answered the Calix thing. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:18 Koshi wrote: I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null. On April 07 2017 18:41 beentheredonethat wrote: No. beentheredone raynpelikoneet Darthfoley Rels Calix Dumbleweed Koshi shapelog Sicklucker That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone She's pretty close to my scum pile, isn't she. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:22 Koshi wrote: Then why did she go from "I am going to call it a day and call Calix and Tumble the mafia team" to "Calix is perfect null". WITHOUT Calix posting. I think you're weighing too much on the list post null but I can understand this. Hmm I think my Calix read simply changed because yesterday, I was content with the result of the conversation but I obviously reealuated at some point. I don't see how this read change is a big reason to vote me though. Especially since you're voting with sicklucker who you are fighting with currently. But yeah your choice | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:25 Koshi wrote: SHE IS CLOSER TO YOURSELF THAN YOUR BIGGEST SCUMREAD. And it is fucking bullshit that you have 4 people with 1 red letter but 2 people full green. That doesn't add up. And you are a tunneler and a decent scumhunter. So your play is fucking weird atm. me someone else someone else calix the guy I vote for (ie. my biggest scumread) not sure how Calix is closer to me in your perception there but you'll have a reason for it. I actually regret posting that list now. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote: I am not fighting with sicklucker. I am having fun with him. It has nothing to do with this game. I think sicklucker is null and I have said that multiple times. Try to not say incorrect things please. That annoys me. Again. Why can't you find mafia this game? And don't give me the "I have no time" "I am not invested as I should be" etc because that are the feelings you have as mafia. And not as town. Why can't you find mafia? Or why are you not letting us help you find mafia? All these things. Whelp, but I'm doing it: + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote: The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood. Like, what is Tumble even doing? * starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter * puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) * enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix * his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment * BUT ends up calling me bad town * one more townread on Shape * claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels * more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why? 1. The game was posted rather spontanously. 2. The game filled up really, really fast. 3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum? 4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. On April 07 2017 19:30 Koshi wrote: See. That is what I mean. I have 1 red letter. And you are as m33k towards me like a little puppy. And I have as scummy as the person you are voting for. Nothing adds up with you this game. Nothing. I think there are quite a lot of things that add up. I'm also helping to explain some of the things that people apparently do not understand. I strongly recommend to get off of that list post. Don't bite into a list of names that I put up, instead focus on the actual contents of my posts. You are totally stuck on red letters and what not, although the main purpose I put that list up for was to show that I am not agreeing with sicklucker's reads. As I said previously, I should've explained better. On April 07 2017 19:31 Koshi wrote: I can blatantly lie and push that lie to scumread you and you defend against the lie... What? | ||
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can you please shut your fucking mouth you react to my huge post with this bullshit you're exceptionally fucking bad if you're town or your scum right away really go fuck yourself | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:33 sicklucker wrote: beentheredonethat can you explain any of your mafia reads im kind of surprised you have so many looking at your list. maybe start with myself haha no go fuck yourself | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote: How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times? Are you for fucking real? Exactly this, Koshi. Koshi's behaviour, his push on me and also this post let's me think he's town. This doesn't feel like drive-by scum-Koshi that I am used to from hosting and playing. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am curious why btdt does respond to Koshi but not to me. I probably missed your post. What do you want me to answer? | ||
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This one? Probably meta. I remember Calix being very active and aggressive as town. No one-liners, instead she has a habit of thoroughly explaining herself. It's a bit like I have it with disformation, whenever this guy enters the game, I tend to townread him. It's probably weird. | ||
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that's because you don't make sense, are annoying, and I just get frustrated talking to you. Your answer to my tumbleweed post completely disqualified you from interacting with me anytime soon and I'm glad to see you removed from the game. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:40 Koshi wrote: If you think I am town now. Start looking into Calix more. I need you to have a strong stance on her. Well documented. Well argumantated. I can't deliver that right now.The status quo of Calix is what happened yesterday, and I'd say it's a scumlean on her right now. It's not enough for me to join a wagon over tumble. Also I dislike how my points on tumble just got completely under the radar, would love if you guys could pick them up, too. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:43 Koshi wrote: Because we need to grill you first and then maybe accept your points. I am looking in your filter now. But then do it D1 instead of dragging it out to some frustrating point where I'm like "hey I have good ideas but because of my D1, you lynch me" | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: If this is your final answer then you're mafia. Because you had a town read on Calix 100% at some point. And this read progression doesn't have it. Then I should add that I do think a Calix pushing people D1 is a town Calix. You're really fast with those 100% mafia things, Rayn. It might just be that someone made a mistake or is bad at explaining stuff. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote: Then I should add that I do think a Calix pushing people D1 is a town Calix. You're really fast with those 100% mafia things, Rayn. It might just be that someone made a mistake or is bad at explaining stuff. That's again misunderstandable. Gosh. Basically I thought Calix is town but wrong when she started pushing me. Then, the rest of the read developed. Judge that however you want, I know I'm town and you have to guess based on what I say so who am I to judge your judgement | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:53 sicklucker wrote: hes literraly trying to bait me into a rage quit thats the only way his actions are explainable really If I'd be trying to bait you into a rage quit, I would continue interacting with you. Instead, I am ignoring you. Don't misrepresent what I'm doing. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:51 Koshi wrote: Yup. I flagged that sentence as well. It was soooooooo fucking weird. It's not weird, not at all. "We're both town" implies: "we are both arguing from a town perspective" because even if one of us is not town, he will always try to pretend he is. So I said what I think we should do because at that point, I already felt like Calix' push had gone too far and is not based on a solid fundament anymore. | ||
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So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions. | ||
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On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote: The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood. Why is this added in this post. Such a bad start bro. It shows you are refreshing the game but you can't join the conversation, and in the mean time you are typing up a big post and that is something mafia prefers to do. There is also nothing on rayn or sicklucker that helps the thread here Like, what is Tumble even doing? * starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter NAI * puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) I dislike your interpretation of those posts granted. * enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix NAI I'm observing * his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment Not true at all. Thread sentiment was against Calixthat's wrong * BUT ends up calling me bad town So what? there's no commitment to his read. "Here are reasons to scumread him. But I think he's bad town." * one more townread on ShapeNAI correct, but three townreads and no scum reads while following thread sentiment ARE aligment indicative. * claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels Did he? lol. NAI though again, read the below part of my case, Koshi. You're just trying to discredit me here. * more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) spidey senses are town or he is lieing. NAIit's either NAI or town indicative or mafia indicative. You say it's "NAI, or town, or lieing". What the fuck This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? I don't understand "I have prepared for reading Rels. I invested time into the game. Then I start this game by making absolutely useless posts that might lead to people scumreading me. I bring a certain "I dont care" factor to the game ALTHOUGH the preparation clearly shows he CARES. What part of that do you not understand? Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. I disagreeCool. But I agree. Can you please not throw away a theory in two words? His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Decent point Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why? 1. The game was posted rather spontanously. 2. The game filled up really, really fast. 3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum? 4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" I agree with everything you say here. But why would mafia create such a stupid lie?... Just so random.Because mafia might very well feel the need to justify a vote that is completely against what everyone else is doing. "Hey, I dont want to commit to something, so I just vote the AFK guy. But I need an explanation for that". Claiming the preparation doesn't make sense when your next action is voting the guy you prepared for - but it DOES make sense if you feel like you want to gain town points for your vote somehow. The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). When having only townreads, voting an afker is not the worst decisionThat's correct but you have to admit that Tumblewood is not exactly commiting on anything which again, is mafia indicative. Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. Or trash town behavior. Like... Why is it mafia behavior. He is not looking good at all.Double standards. He is considered trash town, I am considered scum although I'm currently explaining my heart out | ||
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On April 07 2017 20:00 Koshi wrote: It is our right to do so. Also, how you interact with us shows me you see us all 3 as "equals". While sl and I were scumreads. Now you already flipped on me (which is nai) but why also sl? Anyway you don't have to defend constantly. Problem is Calix and Shape are not here. And Rels is afk again. I don't see you as "equals". I see you and rayn as the guys who keep pushing me and sl as the guy who's mad at me and content in voting for me. Please stop making things up, once more :/ | ||
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On April 07 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote: That's the game bro. You were attacking me a lot when I was mafia in DotA 2. atm we are attacking you because we consider you as mafia. I also disliked getting attacked as town. Now I am more ok with. Something to do with being bad handling criticism and thinking that your play doesn't deserve criticism. Anyway. We will see. I'm better at hosting anyways . Exactly. I am fully aware that it's my own fault that people are scumreading me. But it's hard to swallow your own incompetence rather than blaming it on others. | ||
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On April 07 2017 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay for your scumreads. Tumblewood. Try to convince people on your case, or get your vote on another of your scumreads? Why do you just wanna quit? It's mainly being melodramatic right now. I get discouraged from critique and am a praise-driven person. If you say I'm bad at something, I'd rather not try it again than retry and get better. That's actually one of my human flaws. re: Tumblewood: I answered already to Koshi's remarks on that topic. But long story short, my key points on him are that he's making his life as easy as possible. He drops only town reads, votes for an afk guy, and claims that he prepared for a Rels read which struck out to me as really weird. | ||
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I should of course not tunnel on tumble but he's all I have for now. Given that I've been busy explaining and defending myself the last 3 hours or so, I think that's not a shame. | ||
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I mean even in my posts on Tumble, people do not read them to see what I have to say on Tumble. Instead, they read them to find reasons to scumread me, see df's post for reference. Then again, there are no votes on me as of now, instead thread sentiment is going after calix. :/ still in for Tumble. | ||
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On April 07 2017 22:24 darthfoley wrote: This part is scummy. You say something he does is NAI the. Proceed to use it as reasoning to scum read TW. Either it's AI or it isn't-- but it makes no sense to claim that it's NAI then use it for AI purposes. Feels like shit clinging to me. Also spends half his post talking about this "meta research on Rels thing" like it's actually an important post. Words to say words Btdt hath been downgraded This part is not scummy. A single town read is not alignment indicative. Dropping THREE townreads and placing the vote on the one player where it is the most easy to do so while not doing anything IS alignment indicative. You're misunderstanding my post or misrepresenting it. And OF COURSE I spend half my post talking about the meta research on Rels thing - because I think it's important. I tried to explain my thought process. You say it's an unimportant post but I find it highly important, especially in the context of the Rels vote. It has no other purpose then to put additional (uncnecessary) justification on his vote. I think this is mafia overjustifying a vote. Voting is mandatory and after all a commitment, and I and others already got called out for pressunring but not voting someone. | ||
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I'm not really sure how I should continue to defend myself because apparently, whatever I do, I get scumread for it. It's just dumb. | ||
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On April 08 2017 01:36 Shapelog wrote: Scanning BTDT case: I read it and went to BTDT's filter to check something out + Show Spoiler [wasnt vaild since I missed a post he m…] + From BTDT case on tumble: This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". From BTDT earlier: On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote: Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post. ##vote Tumblewood do something So banter back then wasnt ok but is now seen as something that can come from a townie? Also reading back he actually took my point about mafia being able to throw together that post lol. I dont understand the town circle comment looking back since he had tumble and calix in or around the scummy range a few posts back. Also If he followed thread sentiment, which implies he read the thread, wouldn't he already know calix wasnt scum reading him on that level based off of what. So I dont understand this logic from it. Carrying on. I agree with the last bit - that's why I put a "could be" in front of it. It's hard to back cases up properly without speculating, after all it's a guessing game. The town circle post came off the idea that if 5 out of 11 people are actively discussing without anyone hiding, it would be a good point to start a town circle. It's a nice idea but I didn't dare to form a town circle for obvious reasons, some of them being scumreads/leans. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:01 Koshi wrote: Dont be so negative btdt. This game has good players. We figure shit out. I do realize I'm being sensitive. It's weird, apparently I simply cannot handle a scumread. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:11 Shapelog wrote: I do actually have a question I want you to pitch in regarding tumble and thread sentiment. How does this post feel to you regarding thread sentiment? Tbh, when you say town circle, everyone you mention automatically goes green for your reads in my eyes. That bolded bit is related to my initial push on Koshi, right? If anything, I'd say it's tackling my initial comment on something being pushworthy, so subtly calling me out. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:18 darthfoley wrote: I'm not misrepresenting you. You were specifically talking about his town read of Shapelog when you made the NAI comment. What am I missing? I think: 1 townread (shapelog), standalone, is NAI. 3 townreads, in the context of doing nothing else and voting an AFK, is scummy. More specific: [quote=darthfoley]You say something he does is NAI the. Proceed to use it as reasoning to scum read TW. Either it's AI or it isn't-- but it makes no sense to claim that it's NAI then use it for AI purposes. Feels like shit clinging to me.[/quote] I say "Tumblewood townreads Shapelog" as a description of the act that is happening. This action, without context and standalone, is not alignment indicative. But in the context of two more townreads and a AFK vote that is explained in a really weird way, I think it's scum indicative. Is it clear now? | ||
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I know and in this post, tumble says something in relation to my initial push on Koshi. | ||
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Or, we could consolidate on Tumblewood. | ||
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On April 08 2017 03:42 Shapelog wrote: Me, you, Tumblewood (West), BTDT (?), and SL (Canada) I'm based in Germany. | ||
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I'm too tired right now to really dive Shape's filter and check but it might be an incentive for [insert whoever is willing to do the work] | ||
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Koshi let go of pressuring me, too. Ironically enough that bothers me, too. He's also not really convincing anyone of doing a thing. And the 96 hours absence really bothers me; not a big fan. If I'd be a host, I'd pretty much try to get a replacement or modkill since my voting law says "mandatory to vote". I don't know how Koshi will not be dead after let's say 48+24 hours. Koshi why did you sign up if you knew you'd be gone for so long? | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:06 Tumblewood wrote: but they're all him deliberating for seven paragraphs to ultimately reach a waffly conclusion and not say anything interesting Exactly, nothing new. But that's like the same thing you did thus far. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote: Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean This sparked up quite some positive discussion on things and led to others dropping opinions, too. His filter looks way better than Tumble's filter. | ||
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On April 08 2017 07:40 Hapahauli wrote: Repost, since this shouldn't be at the bottom: Calix (4) - Koshi, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Rels Tumblewood (2) - beentheredonethat, Shapelog Rels (1) - Tumblewood Shapelog (1) - sicklucker Not Voting (1) - Calix Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day (plurality) will be lynched. Only votes in the voting thread will count. The day will end in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00). Great flip! So Koshi, rayn, darth are pretty much cleared. Rels would've probably voted with me and Shape und Tumble so I assume he's pretty much cleared, too. The last scum hides between Shape, Tumble and Sicklucker. Tumble continued to do nothing and kept his vote on the irrelevant side of things. You could argue that Shape and me did so, too, but at least we had one wagon going. Sicklucker voted outside of Tumble/Calix but wanted to lynch shape. Of course each of Shape, tumble, sicklucker will replace himself with me on that scumlist. sicklucker initially voted for me. He might have actual reasons for that, or he's just tilted because I dropped a "fuck you". At this point, I want to apologize to sicklucker. I was already emotional when sicklucker chose to quote my Tumble case and react with virtually one single line to it which wasn't even serious. He absolutely tilted me with that (and I still feel tilted even thinking of it). Nevertheless, I shouldn't have reacted like that. So sicklucker says: On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote: I mean its thin. they also dont look like mafia/mafia (regarding calix vs btdt argument) while also saying On April 07 2017 19:36 sicklucker wrote: tumble had alot of good posts tho. maybe some bad ones I filtered out but some good ones so tendency is that I am not scum for him and tumble isn't, too. That leaves shape and this is genuine to be honest, I think his read progression and voting pattern (besides voting me) makes sense. So sicklucker might not be the remaining scum and I'd not lynch him over Tumble or Shape. | ||
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On April 08 2017 09:36 Tumblewood wrote: no reason for me to still be voting rels. shapelog vs calix is a tossup imo, given that calix can't be bothered to show up as soon as she's scumread. but I'll stick back on shape for now because I doubt town!shape clears himself later more likely than town!calix Tumble votes Rels. Okay, I interpret that as scummy behaviour in the context of his three townreads. But he then ends up voting with sicklucker on Shapelog. Reading his filter, the vote makes sense, he kinda developed that read over the course of time. Only thing that strikes me is the low volume of posts right now. Like, Tumble didn't actively do a lot but he seems to at least vote reasonably. It's not enough to retract my scumread. But it, like, makes it a bit better. | ||
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On April 08 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote: I think Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. Rels voting Tumble, making it 3-3 with others voting outside of it, would've been scummy as fuck. Yeah, I double checked. When Rels voted, he made it 4v2 in Calix vs. Tumble, he could've made it 3-3. | ||
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I more and more get to think Tumble isn't actually scum. It's currently a gut feeling but the Calix flip seems to indicate that. That would mean that Shape should be the next lynch as he's been really hedgy about Calix and me. But then again, Shape clearly says he cannot see Tumble in a team with Calix. Which I kinda agree to. On April 08 2017 05:42 Shapelog wrote: As long as one of Calix/Tumblewood is lynched today I will be happy. On April 08 2017 02:45 Shapelog wrote: But honestly tho, I dont know who else would be mafia with tumble. Looking at it roughly: Rels is a odd ball that hasnt posted anything. Calix maybe but that has to have certain factors involve with it. Also some weird team behavior. SL i could see. BTDT: Bus for life -> keep busing -> even more busing -> OMG what a bus -> reverse bus kill. Don't recall either fond of busing that much. Rayn maybe. Koshi's early posts with tumble being confirmed town would be very odd. Darth maybe. Hmm. That whole post is non-commital. And the Calix part is weird, hedgy. But overall, Shape's filter feels like he's active, asking questions, progressing the thread. He's sticking to asking Tumble stuff, he continuesly says he's fine with a Calix lynch, and overall keeps a calm town which isn't necessarily easy to have as town when you're faced with rayn, sicklucker and myself (esp. myself). In general, kudos to Koshi and Shape and Rayn for calming me down instead of tilting me further. I'm not sure about Shape at this point. | ||
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We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore. I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix. but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had. My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble. Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess. ##vote Shapelog | ||
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On April 09 2017 22:53 Shapelog wrote: That i made. Seriously tho, Where are you actually with tumble and Rels? This post tells me nothing bc ironically ur wishy washing in it. Why is the afk scum team weird when you dont know the factors of it? It is pretty clear that I started to townread Tumble from my previous posts. It is pretty clear that I townread Rels for voting 4-2 instead of 3-3. Yes, it's not in the post you quoted. BUT it is in the posts I already made during the night. So - no, I am not wishy washy in it. A afk scum team would be weird because it's really hard to read into. I clearly express that I am okay with voting you, Shape, and I am content in following my top townreads. I am NOT being wishy washy because I ALSO say that I do have doubts about you being scum. Which is pretty normal. I don't know how you can say that I'm wishy washy there. Only way to do it is if you completely discard my posts during the night. | ||
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On April 10 2017 03:37 darthfoley wrote: @ Shape Well yea the remaining scum in this situation has to keep options open and back doors available because of the D1 lynch and now the save in the night. This is one of the main reasons I don't like how btdt has approached the thread recently. Explain to me why so I also understand it, please. How am I keeping options open when I'm voting Shape and adding two people to my town pile? Tumble, Rels, you and Rayn are on my town pile. I'm okay with a Shape lynch because I see the reasons people are voting him and I agree with them. Of course there's noone defending Shape - everyone's hoping he'll flip scum and the one remaining scum is fine with a clear mislynch if Shape is town. | ||
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Regarding the SL doc claim: keep in mind that Mafia can hold their shot. It might very well be that SL claimed doc although he simply held his shot. | ||
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On April 10 2017 04:22 Shapelog wrote: Because your providing yourself a way to get out of those reads. Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Even with doubts about them, I don't see someone making a post where they state that the reason they are townreading shouldn't be giving that much credit. It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. For example you post this. You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote. Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town According to what you just said in your reply. There should be NO ONE ELSE to suspect as scum if you think that tumble is town, and rels is town, then me. Meaning, you should be on my ass with fire. Instead you "have doubts" Of course I get out of reads. Reads are subject to change over the course of the game. Everyone who says "this guy is 100% alignment x" and is always right is scum. You say: Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Because I might be wrong Oo. I want everyone to not sheep me but instead develop their own opinions. Especially in terms of town reads I am not supposed to make everyone my townreads their townreads. I'd do so if one of my townreads would be up for the lynch which is not the case. It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. If it's either me or Rels, why did you absolutely not care about me or Rels previously? Why did you even vote with me? Why didn't you vote for Rels? And where do you get this very high probability from? And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. It's rather easy: my top scumread changed to a townread. I have not put in the work (freely admitting that) to re-read everyone, especially since I am fairly happy with you being lynched - I think the chance that you flip scum is at a decent 60-75%. I freely admit to not having original scumreads on my own right now - which might be scum indicative but to be frank I don't care too much what people think at this point. I mean what's wrong with voting with my top town reads, especially rayn, given that he was the main incentive in lynching Calix which turned out to be a good move? You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote. Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town Yeah, that's true. I'm not 100% sure you're scum, and if Calix had flipped town, I'm pretty sure I'd still be going for Tumblewood way over you. 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On April 10 2017 04:29 Shapelog wrote: Wait you don't beleive koshi is town? And yea i suppose he could be mafia, in which case I am going to laugh my ass off post game if that is the case and he prob. deserves it bc that plan is fucking brilliant. I do believe Koshi is town. He's just the only one I did not mention yet, so technically, if it's not SL, I should go after Koshi - but that's not something I'm really putting weight on right now. | ||
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On April 10 2017 05:39 Shapelog wrote: Actually no, thinking about that rn. That is a really dumb plan. He has no idea if a PR is in the game or not. He would also be the last scum. That means, 66% of the time, he gets cced and insta-loses. Unless he try and goat out a PR as a goon and saw no one bited and then held and claim. But that is just silly. If he does not know the setup, yes. If he does know the setup, it's a valid play which isn't bad. | ||
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On April 10 2017 05:25 Shapelog wrote: 1) Yes but its the timing of it and the way your doing it that is worrying me. And your doing it with easy targets if your mafia. That is my biggest issue with it. Mafia now has to plan out how the living hell to get 3 ML's and one Lylo (unless they are dumb and it gets blocked by SL again.) With who is alive rn, and who I currently suspect. I don't think any of the people with enough credibility (minus Darth maybe but see 3) ) to pull that off. So they cannot purely live based off that, so they must now start considering ways to make the rest of the sus. townies worse then them, while digging themselves out of "Shape is last mafia" read. 2) Your discrediting your own reasoning to see them as town tho. It be like saying "Ryan is town for what he did with calix etc." then saying "You shouldn't be putting that much stock into Ryan's interactions with calix." It doesn't make sense you posting to the thread the latter when your reads are first ""'s. 3) That came after the night result and SL claimed doc basically. You can check the post if you want to, but basically. I believe tumble is town based off calix. Koshi is town as well. SL I believe his claim, and prob. healed Ryan which confirms ryan. Even if he didn't, I still think ryan is town. I think darth is town, but not as much as everyone else just bc I lack enough to confirm him in my mind. Therefore, I am left with Rels or you being scum after the night flip. So I Highly believe scum is either between you two, with the off chance of it being darth (or maybe tumble if he doesn't do anything my day 3). 4) But then you posted what you did discrediting it imo. Which doesn't progress or help what you posted in the night at all with your reads. Touchee with the second paragraph 5) Bc i dont really believe your as ok with your vote as you made it out seem in your reply which strike me as odd. 6) Well i didn't know about you not fully rereading him. But still, I don't see you posting what you did if I am the only real sus person for you rn, even if you think you are wrong. If you have doubts, I would also suspect you if you thought that to start looking at other people again (which should of happen now in my mind since you were unsure earlier about me) Maybe this is just a POV and preference on the matter. I don't think we are going to get anywhere with this point in the long run. Tbh I think I have posted more content to shitpost ratio filled post this game then in like the last 3 games I have played. You have no idea how hard it is not to troll rn and claim scum as town. Lemme try. 1) I don't know why the timing should worry you. I have adjusted my reads based upon a major event in the game: a flip. A scum player was confirmed. I have mostly tried to adjust my reads based on Calix flipping scum. And I have begun doing so during the Night phase, meaning at a time where there was no vote on you yet. What particular timing are you talking about? 2) I'm not discrediting my reasoning to see Rayn and darth as town. I have reached my own conclusion: "they voted Calix very early, especially rayn kept pushing Calix. They are probably town." You are misinterpreting what I said, especially since you ignore the fact that I was solely talking about myself and how people should see my townreads. I am pretty sure on Rayn and darth, I am not-so-sure about Tumble, SL and Rels, but I'm sure enough on them to lynch you. 3) Well okay, that's just fine. Pretty much my own conclusion, except I'm not 100% sold on the doc claim. The last scum is most likely between you, me, sicklucker/, (Rels, Tumble, Darth,) in that order, with the guys in brackets being townreads of mine. So basically we scumread each other for the same PoE reasons. Lol. 4) Not sure what to reply to this. I don't think I discredited my Tumble townread but even if I did, it might simply come from the fact that he's nowhere near locked town right now. If it's not shape, if it's not SL/Rels, then Tumble would be my next consideration. But I do realize that I'm judging a lot by gut feeling and am very close to guessing, so what I should do if Shape flips town is actually reading sicklucker without prejudice and re-reading Tumble and finally policy lynching Rels as he keeps not playing. regarding policy and Koshi: I'll just pretend he's town and ride or die. And brag post game about how shitty it is to go afk for 96 hours. 5) I'll put it like this: "I am okay with my vote on Shape but I am aware that I have not put in too much work." Basically right now, I am lazy town being okay with a Shape lynch as it clears a variable. Because still, what you do, is very hedgy and non-commital. 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On April 10 2017 06:03 darthfoley wrote: Even if he knew the setup and knew he could claim Doc, it doesn't make sense to do the "save" this early in the game because he has to die at some point Let me think about it. N1: no shot, so the equivalent of one save. D2: no lynch on the claimed doc. N2: the doc is the most likely target. Sicklucker will be killed. OR N2: someone else dies. And from that point on, it's pretty much ride or die. People will either mislynch the doctor at some point because he keeps being alive, or he will be killed rather late. Either way he'll be dead which would make scum!sicklucker lose the game. Okay, makes sense. | ||
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On April 08 2017 10:32 Hapahauli wrote: One more hour count: Calix (4) - Koshi, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Rels Tumblewood (2) - beentheredonethat, Shapelog Shapelog (2) - sicklucker, Tumblewood Not Voting (1) - Calix Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day (plurality) will be lynched. Only votes in the voting thread will count. The day will end in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00). This is the final vote count. Four people voted outside of Calix. me, Shapelog, sicklucker, Tumblewood. Tumblewood should be town based on his early interaction with Calix. It's unlikely that scum acts like this on scum. sicklucker claimed doctor. Tumblewood is VT. Leaves Shapelog. If it's not Shapelog, Rels should definitely be moved into scum range. sicklucker's claim holds, the townread on Tumble does, too, and I still have my role PM which says VT, so it should be me or Rels, which is exactly what Shape says. That's a dilemma. But we do have enough mislynches to lynch all three of us, don't we. | ||
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On April 10 2017 06:21 beentheredonethat wrote: Tumblewood should be town based on his early interaction with Calix. It's unlikely that scum acts like this on scum. sicklucker claimed doctor. beentheredonethat is VT. Leaves Shapelog. .... EBWOP | ||
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Let's put Rels aside for a moment. I don't really think he's scum but I don't give him a town pass like I did last game. After all, Shape flipped town and Shape had a strong opinion on the last scum being between me and Rels. We should carefully look into why he said that. But right now I'm back to Tumble. In the last four, I had Tumble/sicklucker/Shapelog, and the person who's most likely to flip scum after Shape being town is Tumble. On April 10 2017 02:37 darthfoley wrote: This read also makes no sense. 1) Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. 2) Rels voting on Tumble to make it 3-3 would've been scummy as fuck 3) So Rels is cleared because he didn't do the clearly "scummy as fuck" option 4) What would Rels gain by doing the clearly "scummy as fuck" option, if he were scum? 5) Even if you believe Rels would try to pull off the "too scummy to be scum" mind game, why would him voting Calix "clear him?" I think it doesn't make sense to hammer your scum mate when you're the last man standing and playing from a very weak position anyways. I just can't see Rels coming in, bussing, and pissing off. Tumble on the other hand has kept doing nothing. He was content on the Shape lynch (but then again, we all were). My main reason to clear him was the mindmeld argument, basically "scum wouldn't do that". Thinking about it a bit more, I can scum see do that, especially an active scum!Calix coordinating with a less inactive Tumble. Best bet for me is Tumble right now. | ||
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On April 11 2017 19:16 Tumblewood wrote: yeah everyone on the calix wagon moved up when she flipped scum. and btdt looks even worse after that shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post. Except it was not a shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post. It's interesting how you discard everything besides the one sentence that makes me look bad, while doing nothing all game. | ||
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There are some ifs: 1. Koshi yolo bussed 2. darthfoley bussed into afk Calix (given df has a lame 4 page filter, that might even be the case) 3. Rayn yolo bussed that make us instantly lose the game I think. More ifs: 1. Rels is scum (he didn't play at all so... yeah) 2. Tumbleweed's mindmeld was staged 3. sicklucker fake claimed into a all vt setup So basically: lynch Tumblewood. If town, carefully consider Rels/(sicklucker vs. darthfoley in a tinfoil world). That's where I'm at. Given that Tumble continues to not have original thoughts and continues to drive-by post, I think it's the most likely scenario. | ||
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On April 11 2017 19:16 Tumblewood wrote: yeah everyone on the calix wagon moved up when she flipped scum. and btdt looks even worse after that shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post. Coming back to this, talking about the first part of your sentence: you're just repeating what Shape said (and what I said), only exchanging names. You're saying "scum is in the people who did not vote for Calix". Which is what everyone said before, some (including me) elaborated more on that, others didn't. Only difference is that you moved me from "don't lynch" to "scum" while moving Rels to the town pile althoug he didn't do anything. Anything. At all. On April 10 2017 06:59 Tumblewood wrote: although his filter leaves little to work with, I doubt rels is scum because he has put himself in a poor position to get someone else lynched after shapelog. I would expect scum!rels to scumread me and/or (pre-flip) sl so he'd have somewhere to go for the necessary 3 mislynches, and he still has not made 'preparations' in that respect How has Rels "put himself into a position" when the lynch was very clearly on Shapelog? There was no way to not have the lynch on Shape D2. And Rels continued not playing over the course of D2, so how do you imply any sort of activity here? You're basically saying "Rels did nothing but I townread him now because Shape flipped and Rels had nothing to do with Shape flipping" and use this to finalize your scumread on me. It just doesn't make sense. | ||
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On April 11 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote: Eeuhm. I played super active and I was the catalysator of the Calix lynch. I identified she was mafia before you people had a clue, pushed her, and told you why she was mafia. Multiple times, over multiple pages. The sucking up to rayn was legit. I only didn't play at night & D2. And I was able to lurk there a bit because you guys were slow as fuck. But it doesn't matter, I was 100% ok with the Shape lynch. It is not my job to make this game anymore. I already earned MVP for the Calix push D1. But due to having it already I will let you people fight for it. If you think I should be lynched... Sure thing. Townies literally cannot play better than I did in the first 42 hours I was in the game. So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless. I gave you 1 mafia. Go find the second. If I am still in your PoE for some reason go find a head doctor. That's weird. Like, we're a team, and we want to win. If you get one scum, then stop doing things, and town loses, your not MVP, your LVP imho. Also, a successful D1 push can come from a yolo bus, hence why I mention the if. I think it's highly unlikely though. Also I think it's pretty clear that I am only stating those ifs to be COMPLETE in what I do and to thoroughly explain the PoE process that I did. You're of course part of my PoE but not of the results . So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless. Take that sentence and stick it up your arrogant ass, please. | ||
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On April 11 2017 20:53 sicklucker wrote: 1.darth had some really townie posts 2..Koshi I think had some really townie posts mostly defending tumble 3. lul doctor save vote rels plz 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes Hence why I vote Tumble. I need better reasons than "vote rels plz" to vote Rels over my top scumread. | ||
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just remember that everyone was confident in Shape flipping scum and we wasted 48 hours on a lynch that brought us nothing. We're down to guessing right now because there's one scum left and we have almost no interactions from Calix, so all we have is voting. That means we'll guess between (Shape), Rels, Tumble and me, given that sicklucker claimed doc. So you can pack your reads in a beautiful rose box which says "meta read" or whatever but I think Tumble looks the scummiest out of Rels and Tumble. I'll vote Rels, okay, and I'll be glad if we win and I'll eat the "see, btdt, we were right and you were wrong" posts but I'm rather sure we're about to lynch another townie. | ||
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On April 11 2017 21:07 sicklucker wrote: I dont know how obvious I could be. I really want post game troll points I have not and will not vote you, all I am saying is there is the possibility. I stressed it's tinfoil and so on. | ||
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On April 12 2017 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i am not saying it is impossible for Rels to be mafia. I am just way more certain that Tumble is mafia. The o ly thing i just want you all to realize is that btdt is not mafia. that's like 1:1 my stance on things | ||
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On April 12 2017 17:36 Koshi wrote: Doc canf't save twice in a row. The only wifom there could be is why Rels or Tumble picked rayn over sicklucker last night. Oh okay. Well Tjmbke it is! | ||
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On April 12 2017 18:02 sicklucker wrote: so meet in the middle and lynch beenthere? nice suggestion after the guy who wanted to lynch my scumread and hard townread me died. Exactly the thing I'd do when I'm the last scum. | ||
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On April 13 2017 06:14 Koshi wrote: raynpelikoneet. But: - Rels 1 liners read more "free" than Tumble his posts. - Tumble "pushed" mafia agenda potentially, Rels never did that. - Tumble his read change on btdt doesn't make sense and is never explained. He had bdtd as lock town when everybody had him as mafia, but when people thought btdt was becoming townie, only then Tumble had btdt as mafia. On April 13 2017 06:41 Tumblewood wrote: what do you mean my read change was never explained? when calix flipped scum everyone on her wagon went up and everyone else went a little down. someone even asked me about it and I said that's why That's true, Koshi. | ||
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On April 13 2017 06:56 Tumblewood wrote: and btdt I don't know where rels is "doing things" in his filter that I'm not. like if not 'contributing' to the game makes me scummy then rels is twice as bad. because half his posts are about how he's going to / not going to play, and the other half are reaffirming the shapelog lynch, and all of them are idle I'm not saying he's doing things though. | ||
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On April 13 2017 07:56 Koshi wrote: Like... You were on btdt his ass and not Shape or SL or w.e. w.e I don't really care. I am just lynching baddies with mafia treats. If you don't play. I cba. what does cba even mean? | ||
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On April 13 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote: ok but you have ragged on me all game for this reason. and yet rels is doing it but even worse and you're still voting me? that's what I don't get Rels kind of doing nothing is not necessarily alignment indicative. He's doing nothing by not posting. You're doing nothing while posting. | ||
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On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote: See. That happens when you don't play. You don't understand what happened in the past. Why is it not mafia saying 'guys I have no fucking clue what to do" Except I didn't say "i have no clue what to do", instead I tried to get Tumblewood lynched. | ||
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On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote: Nha I am out. You fucking suck ass Rels. But why leave the very moment Rels starts playing? | ||
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sicklucker is only scum if he fakeclaimed and no-killed. darthfoley is only scum if he chose to bus Calix rather early (being the 2nd to vote Calix) beentheredonethat is town. Leaves Tumbleweed and Rels. One of those has to be scum. We have enough lynches to kill both of them. | ||
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On April 13 2017 08:24 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi is only scum if he absolutely bussed the shit out of Calix from the get-go. sicklucker is only scum if he fakeclaimed and no-killed. darthfoley is only scum if he chose to bus Calix rather early (being the 2nd to vote Calix) beentheredonethat is town. Leaves Tumbleweed and Rels. One of those has to be scum. We have enough lynches to kill both of them. fixed colouring | ||
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Calix didn't play anymore after having the initial encounter with me. That might be a scenario. I wouldn't like losing to that but if that's the case, I think we simply lost. | ||
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On April 15 2017 20:43 Koshi wrote: I guess I could claim doc as well. WP sicklucker. We gained a ml. You claim doctor? | ||
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On April 16 2017 01:49 darthfoley wrote: Targeting SL makes no sense from Tumblewood's perspective tbh. PoE it has to be btdt uinless SL is god tier mafia Killing the doctor is not in the interest of the last scum? Ok. | ||
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Btdt Tumble Darth From my point of view, its won. Lynch Tumble / darth. Town!df would not switch from Tumble to me. He was fine with Shape, fine with Rels, but uh-oh, if Tumble flips VT, df is fucked. Df did nothing during the game. I town passed him all game long for his early vote on Calix. He didnt do anything but was content on all the boring lynches and they all flipped vt. Now voting me. Because Tumble wouldn't kill sicklucker, the claimed doc? Nah. Lynch df and Tumble. One of them is scum. Game over. Lynch me, and we're done. | ||
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So let's see if darthfoley is the last scum or if it's Tumble. | ||
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It's funny because each of them can claim the very same about me and the respective other one. | ||
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On April 17 2017 03:19 sicklucker wrote: hes also just blantly trying to survive. I get his poe but he can also be lynched so if hes town hes playing horrible Youre so bad lol | ||
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Kk bye | ||
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Toxic | ||
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gg | ||
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it's all up to you however. Not trying to convince you here. It's all up to you and your sick plays. have fun. koshi leave some advice please. | ||
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On April 17 2017 20:59 sicklucker wrote: no its really not up to me you dont understand mafia mechanics Kill df win kill me lose Nothing more to say | ||
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On April 17 2017 21:00 sicklucker wrote: but its your job to not look like a scum weasle to koshi and give him reasons to vote darth over you Koshi wanted to lynch df but you fucked it up. | ||
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On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote: The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is 1) factually inaccurate 2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed. It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix. | ||
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On April 18 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote: 100% of your town cred comes from a conversation one hour into the game and you throwing a hissy fit. Sorry you feel that way Koshi That's wrong Oo. I have explained myself over and over again. I have as well re-explained why I think Tumble is scum AND I have answered to pretty much every single question (esp. from Shapelog) that was directed towards me. What you are taking about is your scummate, Calix, pushing me at the beginning of the game, and then backing off of me for whatever reason. I continued to discuss with her though. All you did was sit back and let lynches happen. The only point where you got active was when you realized that your nightkill was blocked by the doctor. You got away because people looked scummier than you. That's the whole story of darthfoley in this game. | ||
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On April 18 2017 05:39 darthfoley wrote: Nah, I was the main reason Shapelog got lynched and I cased Rels as much as a three page filter could provide. I didn't sit back nor did I let lynches happen at any point. I actually tried to talk to Shapelog on the day he was lynched while you sit back and let nothing happen. I've been active the whole game. Anyways, there's no point in arguing with you because you're scum. I'll take my case into the final three "Casing Rels" must be so exhausting since his filter leaves close to nothing to work with. | ||
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gonna go sleep now. looking forward to a town win. | ||
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Maybe I'm too stressed in real life. Serious apologies to everyone I offended this game. | ||
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this is how this thread feels like. totes disagree with sicklucker mvp, still. I don't see how a play that will get you nominated for worst town award 2017 can make you the mvp just because it works - once. Koshi is the clear mvp of this game. | ||
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