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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 00:06 GMT
#1321
anyway were not lynching me im dying tonight if it goes to final 3 since I was obv the save last night and cant be saved so no use talking about me. DUKE IT OUT
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 16 2017 00:50 GMT
#1322
I've said my piece. I think btdt's case on me is shit, and I think TW is town for a couple reasons.

Outside of the first interaction of the game between btdt and Calix, I don't remember anything btdt has done. I didn't like his emotional melt down at the time and it still doesn't sit right with me. Especially with how quickly it turned around. Idk, I don't ever town read someone for appealing to emotion anymore.

Plus btdt was talking about how he was never going to move off of TW (before you got saved) and now it seems he wants to lynch me before TW, even though his case on me is butt. He has talked in contingencies all game, e.g. "we lynch X; if X is town, then we lynch Y and Z and then the game is over!" It has just seemed very flow charty. Especially with him saying lynch df into Tumble... you mislynch the "stronger town" and it goes to F3 between Koshi, btdt and the "weaker town" TW. Basically GG for btdt
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:44 GMT
#1323
all 3 different scum candidates voted a different person great.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:46 GMT
#1324
also darth is lynched no matter who i vote currently hum. koshi how sure are you that darths scum. i think this deserves some effort. unfortunately i been drunk all day due to easter partys
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:49 GMT
#1325
On April 13 2017 16:39 Tumblewood wrote:
df is kinda not on the table for me. but koshi might. I tend to always townread him even when he's scum and this game I'm not even that impressed
the only productive thing I can do rn is dig up bad rels posts though


where was btm at this point? was he really that hard town read by you
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:50 GMT
#1326
On April 13 2017 16:56 Tumblewood wrote:
data costs me $2 a megabyte right now so I will not be posting, but I have downloaded all of rels' filter (thinking I should download Koshi's, too...) and I will try to construct a good post or the outline of a slam dunk post while I am out
current state of affairs:
rels 60% - idk, unimpressive in all ways, kinda PoE but I wish it weren't
koshi 25% - kinda tilted but there is some legit paranoia mixed into this read. I think we wrote him off too early.
btdt 10% - the more I talk about it the more I remember why he is town
df 5% - just in case



wait wut?

why foley over btdt what changed?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:53 GMT
#1327
On April 14 2017 17:11 Tumblewood wrote:
I'd put it at like 80% Koshi 20% df. just read through df's filter and there really isn't anything scummy at all but idk it could be him
probably not though. gotta give it the old college try with koshi


then theres this where he moves ds past dtm on his lynch list. he moves ds above btm because

"just read through df's filter and there really isn't anything scummy at all but idk it could be him"

ya wtf that makes no sense
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:54 GMT
#1328
i'd probably still lynch df last tbh
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:55 GMT
#1329
but then again tumbles lynch bait world champion and your always gonna find scummy shit in his filter with little effort. still mind meld plays
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 03:59 GMT
#1330
well reading tumble reads filter he just makes up reads or does not right down when or why they change which is not really helpful
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 04:00 GMT
#1331
On April 07 2017 02:20 darthfoley wrote:
Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally"


soft defense ftw?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 16 2017 04:02 GMT
#1332
na df basically killed calix
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 16 2017 07:57 GMT
#1333
On April 16 2017 12:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 16:56 Tumblewood wrote:
data costs me $2 a megabyte right now so I will not be posting, but I have downloaded all of rels' filter (thinking I should download Koshi's, too...) and I will try to construct a good post or the outline of a slam dunk post while I am out
current state of affairs:
rels 60% - idk, unimpressive in all ways, kinda PoE but I wish it weren't
koshi 25% - kinda tilted but there is some legit paranoia mixed into this read. I think we wrote him off too early.
btdt 10% - the more I talk about it the more I remember why he is town
df 5% - just in case



wait wut?

why foley over btdt what changed?

I realized most of the things I thought I knew were wrong
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 16 2017 07:57 GMT
#1334
On April 16 2017 12:59 sicklucker wrote:
well reading tumble reads filter he just makes up reads or does not right down when or why they change which is not really helpful

that is how I roll
good times for all
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2017 11:49 GMT
#1335
On April 16 2017 12:46 sicklucker wrote:
also darth is lynched no matter who i vote currently hum. koshi how sure are you that darths scum. i think this deserves some effort. unfortunately i been drunk all day due to easter partys

I have no clue tbh. I'll reread today for real.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2017 12:36 GMT
#1336
if btdt is mafia he played really well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2017 12:36 GMT
#1337
Same for sicklucker. Even better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2017 12:42 GMT
#1338
On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for.

I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol.

And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not.

Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy?


Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there.

Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o

You're not making much sense.


I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix.

I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed.

Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far

My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP


possbile tmi. Also there wasn't any follow up I think.

On April 07 2017 02:19 darthfoley wrote:
The thing is I still don't see how probing rayn is "sucking up"

I can understand the point if Koshi was talking about it from the "faking activity" point he brought up later, but the progression from "she was sucking up" to "she was faking activity" doesn't really make sense to me

Very sidelines.

On April 07 2017 22:30 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.


Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.


Then why did she go from "I am going to call it a day and call Calix and Tumble the mafia team" to "Calix is perfect null". WITHOUT Calix posting.


Rayn is town yay

I never understood this post.
On April 07 2017 22:43 darthfoley wrote:
The only saving grace for BTDT right now is that all of a sudden he has the pressure of a thousand suns on him from two very vocal players and SL, all the while Calix hasn't posted anything since her slew of terrible posts early game... yet people seem to have backed off her a bit. This feels similar to the Generic game that just finished when Eden was super AFK scummy but almost wiggled out of a lynch because other townspeople did a few scummy things

Also anyone TRing Shapelog please explain. ATM I think Calix/Shapelog are most likely mafia. Maybe btdt, but his frustration feels real and not fake rage idk

weird + tmi
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2017 12:44 GMT
#1339
Hmm don't think darthfoley has been solving this game. I just read his filter and he never tries to push to clear somebody. Or pushes a good townread into the game. Try to convince people.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2017 12:44 GMT
#1340
I am pretty sure I a mlynching both df and tumble. No matter what.
I had a good night of sleep.
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