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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 18:04 GMT
#1121
"Why does mafia!Rels do what Shapelog claims here? I don't care if it seems irrational, i care about why the fuck does someone who is actually goosd at this game as scum do that????"

ive owned him when he is scum/ altho have been owned as well.

But he sucks up to me hard. like in that game koshi keeps going on about where I didnt lynch the obv mafia untill lylo that was rels
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 18:05 GMT
#1122
Yes rels would suck up to me. so if hes making up reads for that it makes him mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 18:07 GMT
#1123
On April 12 2017 01:54 darthfoley wrote:
When Rels voted for Calix it was

3 Calix
2 TW (TR by basically all of Calix wagon at the time)
1 Rels
1 Shapelog


rels busses. I would have bussed. calix was awful
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 18:10 GMT
#1124
On April 11 2017 09:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 05:36 darthfoley wrote:
On April 11 2017 05:21 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:19 darthfoley wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:10 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
On April 10 2017 20:39 Rels wrote:
in comparaison Shape / Calix is so cordial. More cordial than any other interaction in Calix' filter.
yep. ##Vote Shapelog


So you think scum!Calix would try to be cordial with her partner in a game with lots of veterans?

there are one and a half fatal assumptions here
one is that calix was trying to do that, which would just be silly. the other being that calix might do that to a particular townie, which is highly improbable


Why is it highly improbable?

idk, it's just one of those things you don't think about as scum. not that you couldn't, just that you don't.
plus it would only be useful if calix flips and town calls it out, which is not easily foreseeable from the first 24 hours


Fair enough. I still don't see why "calix's interactions with btdt make it unlikely they're together" cuz don't mafia often pressure each other early D1 and then back off (which is what she kinda did)

It is not "they interacted with together and ended up not calling each other scum", it's more of how the interaction went, especially from btdt's side. Like usually when mafia interacts with mafia and it ends like this both people know what they are doing, right? They have a plan and they know where it ends, in the end. I think it's highly unlike when Calix "ends the interaction" btdt just keeps going on and going on with it. Also that was the one of the interactions that made btdt "sad" a bit later in the game. Why would he get sad for that? He had just achieved what he wanted to as mafia.

This is the reason i am 100% sure btdt is town. I have now tried to read his filter for line 10 times and i always stop here and think "nonononono fuck no this dude is not scum regardless of what he says after acting like this"...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 18:14 GMT
#1125
On April 12 2017 03:05 sicklucker wrote:
Yes rels would suck up to me. so if hes making up reads for that it makes him mafia

Wouldnt sucking up to you here be voting for Shape?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 18:16 GMT
#1126
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 12 2017 03:02 sicklucker wrote:
ryan you say rels didnt have to defend me as mafia or w/e. but meta wise he would 10000% suck up to me as mafia

Maybe. But on D1 sucking up to you would be voting for shape. I dont think him calling you town n1 makes him town, i understand he can kill me and then go "SEE RAYN SAID SL IS SCUM".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 18:20 GMT
#1127
Like i am not saying it is impossible for Rels to be mafia. I am just way more certain that Tumble is mafia. The o ly thing i just want you all to realize is that btdt is not mafia.
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 18:45 GMT
#1128
On April 12 2017 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2017 03:05 sicklucker wrote:
Yes rels would suck up to me. so if hes making up reads for that it makes him mafia

Wouldnt sucking up to you here be voting for Shape?


then how would he get his free town read? he needs to suck up to you too anyway
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 18:47 GMT
#1129
Like sucking up and defending me is one thing. but hes not going to go against koshi and ryan to save his partner as mafia unless he has a chance which he didnt. calix didnt even post im sure she probably conceded in qt
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 18:48 GMT
#1130
also rels is a busser. like if I were to scale him form 1 -1 0 from does not like to bus to likes to bus hes like a 9 or 10 on this site
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 18:48 GMT
#1131
On April 12 2017 03:47 sicklucker wrote:
Like sucking up and defending me is one thing. but hes not going to go against koshi and ryan to save his partner as mafia unless he has a chance which he didnt. calix didnt even post im sure she probably conceded in qt

Did you even read what i wrote before on that matter?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 19:51 GMT
#1132
On April 12 2017 03:48 sicklucker wrote:
also rels is a busser. like if I were to scale him form 1 -1 0 from does not like to bus to likes to bus hes like a 9 or 10 on this site

Gimme games plz. I read them if i am alive.
Until then lynch Tumblewood. Read plz and dont be stuck on narratives.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2017 19:56 GMT
#1133
I read them day after tmrw. Tmrw i am picking up Cake and doing something else than playing mafia in any case.
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 20:00 GMT
#1134
On April 12 2017 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am not saying it is impossible for Rels to be mafia. I am just way more certain that Tumble is mafia. The o ly thing i just want you all to realize is that btdt is not mafia.

that's like 1:1 my stance on things
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 11 2017 22:38 GMT
#1135
On April 11 2017 20:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 19:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 11 2017 15:19 darthfoley wrote:
On April 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:
have no qualms about lynching
rels
(shape)

have some qualms about lynching
sl
koshi
(calix)

not lynching today
df
rayn
btdt


On April 09 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog

yeah this is exactly where I am except sl is somewhere on the list. probably above btdt with like 1 letter colored green


When did btdt go from "not lynching today" to being in the scummy side of your reads list, and why? Was it simply because he voted off the Calix wagon?

yeah everyone on the calix wagon moved up when she flipped scum. and btdt looks even worse after that shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post.

Coming back to this, talking about the first part of your sentence: you're just repeating what Shape said (and what I said), only exchanging names. You're saying "scum is in the people who did not vote for Calix". Which is what everyone said before, some (including me) elaborated more on that, others didn't.

Only difference is that you moved me from "don't lynch" to "scum" while moving Rels to the town pile althoug he didn't do anything. Anything. At all.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 06:59 Tumblewood wrote:
although his filter leaves little to work with, I doubt rels is scum because he has put himself in a poor position to get someone else lynched after shapelog. I would expect scum!rels to scumread me and/or (pre-flip) sl so he'd have somewhere to go for the necessary 3 mislynches, and he still has not made 'preparations' in that respect

How has Rels "put himself into a position" when the lynch was very clearly on Shapelog? There was no way to not have the lynch on Shape D2. And Rels continued not playing over the course of D2, so how do you imply any sort of activity here?

You're basically saying "Rels did nothing but I townread him now because Shape flipped and Rels had nothing to do with Shape flipping" and use this to finalize your scumread on me.

It just doesn't make sense.


>.<
maybe "does enough things" is a bad and arbitrary way to measure rowdiness frequently not even indicating alignment
and maybe scum would put themselves in a position to start pushing a different townie after a mislynch by having them as a secondary scumread
good times for all
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
April 12 2017 01:33 GMT
#1136
stand by
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
April 12 2017 01:35 GMT
#1137
Day 3



raynpelikoneet was killed he was a VT

you have 48 hours
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 12 2017 07:29 GMT
#1138
Tumble and Rels , can you both please make a case on each other?
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 12 2017 07:55 GMT
#1139
lets get ready to RUMBLE

RELS + TUMBLE = RUMBLE

t+rumble

legggoo
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 12 2017 07:56 GMT
#1140
the loser gets to get lynched tomorrow? not very motivating
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