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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 08 2017 17:10 GMT
#881
On April 09 2017 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Voting an afk means nothing when we are talking about Tumblewood.
He has had original thoughts.
"Throw shade on" is just another way of saying "doesn't have a conclusion on players alignment. In a same way i could say you "threw shade" on Tumblewood D1.... Actually considering your read on him now you did that way more than he did, since you never even commited to a vote before Calix was ACTUALLY starting to look like she's getting lynched and after the vote you started convincing Tumblewood that he is mafia (which is literally super dumb in the first place).

So lieing about your filter and then quoting a post from BTDT saying "this might be sus." and doing nothing with it isn't throwing shade?
What original thoughts did he have before that case?
I still dont understand the convinving tumble he is mafia statement.
So there is that. I wasn't talking about pre-association. I was talking about the fact that your read changes based on stuff that should not affect the read at all because based on your case on Tumble, nothing Calix did means anything regarding Tumble's alignment. Nothing Tumble has done since should change your opinion on him (because he hasn't posted anything since the flip). Basically you are evaluating same evidence and coming to a completely different conclusion before. That's not unlikely to come from twon, the unlikeliness comes from the fact you have a 8 page filter, you were active almost all the time, yet you couldn't come to this conclusion earlier and indirectly defended Calix who flipped mafia by calling Tumblewood scum and making a case on him. I don't really understand how this very simple thing is so hard for you to see and why you try to twist it around.

The evidence that causes the change of read came from what tumble did to interact with the now flipped scum calix. And your right, nothing he has down should change my opinion on him, which isnt what did change it.

And yes I realize what you mean about the conclusion thing. And maybe i could of. But at the time I felt both could be mafia, but i also stated that they would have weird team behavior and factors had to be consider if they are scum team. Those factors being the posts from tumble that he posted about calix and her points. After calix flipped scum, I consider it since now i know for sure. Hence the change on tumble.

And that is what happen rofl.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 08 2017 17:47 GMT
#882
I'm buying pretty hard into the shapelog/calix mafia team. just seems like the logical solution to the game
good times for all
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2017 21:20 GMT
#883
Tumbewood could you explain to me why did vote Shapelog over Calix like you did? I made a post about it earlier.
table for two on a tv tray
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:28 GMT
#884
On April 08 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
I think Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. Rels voting Tumble, making it 3-3 with others voting outside of it, would've been scummy as fuck.

Yeah, I double checked. When Rels voted, he made it 4v2 in Calix vs. Tumble, he could've made it 3-3.


if your doing vote logic you also have to look at who was holding out votes. IF someone was obviously going to vote calix for example but I dont think anyone did. also making it 3-3- he still losses the tie break in most mafia rules
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:31 GMT
#885
On April 08 2017 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 08 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
I think Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. Rels voting Tumble, making it 3-3 with others voting outside of it, would've been scummy as fuck.

Yeah, I double checked. When Rels voted, he made it 4v2 in Calix vs. Tumble, he could've made it 3-3.

Rels was already around when my vote wasnt on Calix if i remember correctly. sicklucker saying Rels wouldnt even try to save Calix is totally absurd because Rels is a player who can produce thread pull easily in three hours.


rels is in a great spot to win this game if hes mafia tho its not like hes below bussing. Whats the order of lynch right now? Shapelog then tumble then me or something like that if you or koshi had to choose the order. ya rels wins in that world
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:39 GMT
#886
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 08 2017 22:41 GMT
#887
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog


I have no idea why you have Tumblewood as your most town over everyone who voted for confirmed mafia
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:42 GMT
#888
acualy rels should get red letters because theres no way shapelog is mafia here all of the time
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:43 GMT
#889
On April 09 2017 07:41 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog


I have no idea why you have Tumblewood as your most town over everyone who voted for confirmed mafia


hes town dude. vote logic is nice but its never absolute. if shapelogs not mafia there was a bus and it was probably rels.

I said im ride or die with tumbleweed never lynching him
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:43 GMT
#890
besides hes tied with rayn I jsut did that to piss him off :D
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 08 2017 22:43 GMT
#891
On April 09 2017 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 08 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
I think Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. Rels voting Tumble, making it 3-3 with others voting outside of it, would've been scummy as fuck.

Yeah, I double checked. When Rels voted, he made it 4v2 in Calix vs. Tumble, he could've made it 3-3.


if your doing vote logic you also have to look at who was holding out votes. IF someone was obviously going to vote calix for example but I dont think anyone did. also making it 3-3- he still losses the tie break in most mafia rules


I actually agree with sl to the extent that making the vote 3-3 is super risky for scum!Rels considering Calix was AFK and it didn't seem like there was much fluidity of people's opinions at the time. Rayn/Koshi/I were not going to switch off of Calix and I doubt scum!Rels would want to try and argue against a very solid lynch led by the three of us when he could just get town cred off her flip.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:45 GMT
#892
ya rels vote means nothing imo. even if calix was around to save herslef (big if) then shes just lynched next day and rels the day after.

The way it played out rels is like 4th on the chopping block. Its what I would do everytime
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:50 GMT
#893
and shapes trying so hard. holy fuck its probably rels
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:51 GMT
#894
shapelog just posted 15 paragraphs after its pretty obvious hes going to get lynched no matter what he does today and if he saves himself hes the next lynch anyway? I dont know maybe im just lazy but if im scum in his spot I afk or concede -_-
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 08 2017 22:55 GMT
#895
I think Shapelog is perfectly capable of writing enough shit so that I stop reading his 15 paragraph half way through. Just like the same way I'm a little skeptical of btdt's huge OMGUS blow up yesterday when he wasn't even leading in the vote. After LS burned me in that one cell game i'm a lot less understanding of writing/OMGUSing your way to a town read.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 08 2017 22:56 GMT
#896
im glad im not the only one on the latter. he got no green letters from me
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 08 2017 22:57 GMT
#897
I'm gonna reread the last half of his post regarding SL and his reaction to the Calix lynch cuz I found that somewhat compelling on a first read through. But SL sees the Rels vote the same way I do hmph
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 08 2017 23:03 GMT
#898
On April 08 2017 20:05 Rels wrote:
yeah I'm gonna spend most of today playing Battlerite. BTW you should come play at some point it's a fucking good game


Spends all of D1 afk and then pulls the ExO "i'm gonna go play video games" ploy for D2. Forgive me if i'm not convinced like rayn that Rels is town.

Hasn't said anything about who he thinks is mafia tbh, just that he's town reading me, koshi, rayn and sl. No idea where his head is at right now
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 08 2017 23:15 GMT
#899
Agree also with the rels vote as stated in eailer post.
On April 09 2017 07:51 sicklucker wrote:
shapelog just posted 15 paragraphs after its pretty obvious hes going to get lynched no matter what he does today and if he saves himself hes the next lynch anyway? I dont know maybe im just lazy but if im scum in his spot I afk or concede -_-

I went 5 days before solo.

Also I wouldnt give up as in "well this is hopeless" as either alignment rn. Only way I would concede as mafia is if it was like a couple hours before lynch and everyone is stacked on me.

Hasn't said anything about who he thinks is mafia tbh, just that he's town reading me, koshi, rayn and sl. No idea where his head is at right now

He stated he found me and tumble sus. yesterday
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 08 2017 23:20 GMT
#900
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog

yeah this is exactly where I am except sl is somewhere on the list. probably above btdt with like 1 letter colored green
good times for all
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