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On March 22 2017 00:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 00:22 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 00:21 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly? Yes. But I let the other guy reply. You can answer to koshi, i kinda want to see if we are bothered by the same thing. His most probably solutions is mafia mindset orientated. His less probably solution is occams razor.
Yes, I do like this thought to.
I also like the thought that he put a lot of work coming with solutions that he takes no real stance on himself. All of that writing and he comes up with 0 conclusions on his own.
Its a bit bothering me on both points, and super interesting the easiest one is the lesst likely to him.
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On March 22 2017 01:08 Xatalos wrote:
Question: why would he be so FUCKING DESPERATE as town to waste away his JK role for having a couple of votes on himself at D2 start? How does town come to that conclusion? I never would. And I haven't seen him do that before either. He does like risky gambles though, and fake claiming would be just his style.
Well it makes sense sorta as town, he gets all pressure off of him so eh can do what he wants.
Town can focus on finding real mafia and focus on other wagons. Besides Ritoky and a couple others Rayn was on everyones scum list. And a claim at eod is a lot more risky and likely to be counter claimed. Also Rayns timing for the claim was really towny.
Town has plenty of time to discuss it and people have enough time to CC and we can weight in on it.
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Also i'm not sure if I would call it desperate claim either.
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Like if you compare his claim to some of his other claims like guardians of the galaxy as scum, that one looks a lot different and actually looks desperate.
This looks really different and in line with his town games.
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Totally different though, Rayn was actually up for lynch near eod. We had little time to really discuss it or parse anything.
Here we've had 48 hours almsot to talk about it and his reasoning is 9000000% better to claim here
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On March 22 2017 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:33 Xatalos wrote:
Kind of felt similar to me though. Similarly done to sway the lynch situation to his favor for a short-term gain? LOL Oh god this is so fucking terrible. EVEN COMPARING Guardinas game to ANY other game i have EVER played is trashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... :D
This is probably true, and rayn was replaced out of that game cause he kinda went off the deep end cause of another game at the same time.
But its about all i know where he fakes claims as scum/
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On March 22 2017 01:36 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Totally different though, Rayn was actually up for lynch near eod. We had little time to really discuss it or parse anything.
Here we've had 48 hours almsot to talk about it and his reasoning is 9000000% better to claim here It would make a ton of sense to claim later though. He could judge the reactions and how the wagons develop, then claim if needed to shock the scumteam. He wouldn't be scared of pressure as town.
And risk being lynched with how afk the game is near eod generally?
And really why are you going so crazy on you v rayn here? We have 5 hours for lynch really and I do not think the game is going to lynch rayn here.
Your best bet if you are town is to convince the game you are by finding the other scum etc.
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On March 22 2017 01:43 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 01:36 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Totally different though, Rayn was actually up for lynch near eod. We had little time to really discuss it or parse anything.
Here we've had 48 hours almsot to talk about it and his reasoning is 9000000% better to claim here It would make a ton of sense to claim later though. He could judge the reactions and how the wagons develop, then claim if needed to shock the scumteam. He wouldn't be scared of pressure as town. And risk being lynched with how afk the game is near eod generally? And really why are you going so crazy on you v rayn here? We have 5 hours for lynch really and I do not think the game is going to lynch rayn here. Your best bet if you are town is to convince the game you are by finding the other scum etc. I'm fine with being lynched if that's what it takes. I'm VT anyway. It would break my 10-game record or so of not being lynched as town, but it would probably solve the game. Especially if Eden is scum. So it's kind of OK. I just have this nagging feeling that rayn is still scum that won't go away, so it's very hard to resist talking.
i will listen to your theories tonight if you make it, now if you are town You need to find the other two scum.
You haven't really been convinced by eden being scum most of the game it seems, why?
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On March 22 2017 01:59 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 00:32 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 00:29 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:22 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 00:21 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly? Yes. But I let the other guy reply. You can answer to koshi, i kinda want to see if we are bothered by the same thing. His most probably solutions is mafia mindset orientated. His less probably solution is occams razor. Yes, I do like this thought to. I also like the thought that he put a lot of work coming with solutions that he takes no real stance on himself. All of that writing and he comes up with 0 conclusions on his own. Its a bit bothering me on both points, and super interesting the easiest one is the lesst likely to him. Sorry but this is ass cheeks. I do take a stance on what I think is more likely and less likely. I DO explain WHY I find the scenarios likely or unlikely. So I do make "conclusions" about the scenarios. Why is it super interesting the I find the "easiest" one the least likely? Please, elaborate and show me your conclusions about why ritoky died! Fair point to Koshi I guess but your addendum is absolute garbage
You list all of these possible scenerios and list how possible they are but not all of them can exist at the same time, some can exist at the same time but a lot of them go against one another. So yeah you really don't take your own stand just list what you think is possible and leave it at that.
You do not actually say which one you believe. The easiest solution is that Ritoky was just right tbh.
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Answer me this question DF
3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened
You do say that this is exactly what happened. This implies that Eden is not scum as Ritoky gives us lots of information if Eden is scum.
So why do you think that Eden is scum now and voting for him?
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Yeah DF isn't bad reading his emotion and some responses to me as townish so far.
So the game is a lot harder than I thought.
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On March 22 2017 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Yeah DF isn't bad reading his emotion and some responses to me as townish so far.
So the game is a lot harder than I thought. No it is not, lynch Xatalos and we go from there. Adam is really good at this game btw.
Well probably so, even if lets say its Xata/Eden the third I just am having a hard time putting a finger on currently.
and i'll think about xata while i have to afk for a couple ehours
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I have rerurned, road work detained me thatb I did not know about.
I think disf much be falling slightly for me atm. Tw I don't think I would put into your lock town though koshi.
Something bugs me about his reasoning, it just seems way to static for someone still in the game and reading.
It's weird.
Df took a massive jump up and down then up for me.
Rayn/calix/koshi are locks for town nno matter what. Disf and xata getting the most looks tonight.
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On March 22 2017 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
cop does not get shot when there is a claimed jk who is also named rayn
Say calix and xata are town. What's the point in shooting rayn?
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On March 22 2017 06:39 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
cop does not get shot when there is a claimed jk who is also named rayn Say calix and xata are town. What's the point in shooting rayn? so that a basically-confirmed townie and power role is no longer a part of the town
And? Seems like the other side would be better
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Yay my first real scum read of the game was right.
Yuck yeah
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Now xata was the competing wagon but Eden ended in a landslide.
I need to look but it is possible xata was the better role and that's why everyone piled into Eden after soft defends from people. (Don't remember who)
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No it doesn't confirm him town tbh
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