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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 00:10 GMT
#1294
I don't think I would shoot eitojy n1 here with him hard downing me though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:14 GMT
#1381
Hey bros, I still think disf is town sadly even if his posts were boring before at points.

And hi amg
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:23 GMT
#1385
On March 20 2017 21:16 Calix wrote:
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On March 20 2017 21:14 Damdred wrote:
Hey bros, I still think disf is town sadly even if his posts were boring before at points.

And hi amg


What makes you think that?


Attitude, tone, somewhat caring about the Lynch d1. When under pressure going after a somewhat suicidal target in calix and going completely against thread sentiment with that.

He also acted in a decent way to earn and tumble posts.

Even though his posts have been kinda meh he has been extremely active, which is a weaker point tbh borderline non point here.

I think he's the product of people looking for a super active mafia when mafia probably just didn't care eod1(conjecture.).
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:37 GMT
#1394
Why no onegu in there xata?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:41 GMT
#1397
Rayn would fake claim as scum, he's done it before.

But I don't believe it here I don't think
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 14:53 GMT
#1499
On March 20 2017 23:38 AMG wrote:
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On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.


This is a total misrepresentation...

1) I specifically ask mal questions to his first post about not liking either mine or disformation wagon. He ignores this question, and I specifically point out that he is ignoring the question and should return to it. Mal never answers this question.

This facilitates a vote later on in the day, Rayn points out the same thing in a later post.

2) I make a case on why I do not like Eden, I do not believe I ever said that Eden is a better lynch? I'm unsure why looking for multiple scum in itself is scummy.

3) Half the thread was nervous about how little resistance the lynch was getting at that point.

4) I said the only person who I did not feel comfortable with on the wagon was DF, and I listed the reasoning why I did not have a town read on DF. He explained himself and we had a sort of argument and I ended up townreading him.

And really there were three options for the lynch, I hard townread Rayn all of yesterday. I wasn't going to vote for myself unless rayn woudl apologize to me for the way he treated me yesterday which was still utter shit btw rayn and I really should get an apology for being ignored and treated like a complete idiot when we agreed on so much shit in the thread (besides scum read on me).

That leaves me in a world where the most likely solution was to lynch a scum read in Mal. And I did just that, he turned out to be town that didn't care.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 14:58 GMT
#1504
Meh I thought they were both mafia? And I was lynching one of my scum reads?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 15:02 GMT
#1506
and (wifom alert) If you think i'm scum with Eden you have to 100% buy into the story that the scum team wanted to double bus and actually sac me O_o
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 15:03 GMT
#1507
On March 21 2017 00:01 disformation wrote:
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On March 20 2017 23:53 Damdred wrote:
On March 20 2017 23:38 AMG wrote:
On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.


This is a total misrepresentation...

1) I specifically ask mal questions to his first post about not liking either mine or disformation wagon. He ignores this question, and I specifically point out that he is ignoring the question and should return to it. Mal never answers this question.

This facilitates a vote later on in the day, Rayn points out the same thing in a later post.

2) I make a case on why I do not like Eden, I do not believe I ever said that Eden is a better lynch? I'm unsure why looking for multiple scum in itself is scummy.

3) Half the thread was nervous about how little resistance the lynch was getting at that point.

4) I said the only person who I did not feel comfortable with on the wagon was DF, and I listed the reasoning why I did not have a town read on DF. He explained himself and we had a sort of argument and I ended up townreading him.

And really there were three options for the lynch, I hard townread Rayn all of yesterday. I wasn't going to vote for myself unless rayn woudl apologize to me for the way he treated me yesterday which was still utter shit btw rayn and I really should get an apology for being ignored and treated like a complete idiot when we agreed on so much shit in the thread (besides scum read on me).

That leaves me in a world where the most likely solution was to lynch a scum read in Mal. And I did just that, he turned out to be town that didn't care.


Hm. Thing is you had a lot of posts on eden. so it kinda felt off for you to prefer mal. but you are right. same could be said about multiple ppl, And you where around to question ppl.

nah.
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its green


Yeah I shoudl of been more forceful and directed the lynch to somewhere better, but I really thought we were on scum with how mal entered the thread. Pretended to do things after d1 but still didn't do anything and then left without anything of substance.

And secretly I really hoped he would flip scum so it would clear me and disf lol
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 15:23 GMT
#1516
IDK why people just look at something someone posts and doesn't actually check things themselves, I know my filter is almost 8 pages but its nto that big
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 16:58 GMT
#1542
On March 21 2017 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I'm looking through disfo and I think I like him again. his early d1 is still good and he wasn't as useless as I thought mid-d1 (probably the part I skipped because some of it is unfamiliar).


This is kinda a towny post.

Can you tell me who you think is scum just gut feels no need to get super indepth atm
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 17:23 GMT
#1547
You know a scum team of say,

AMG/DF/Eden

kinda makes sense...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 17:24 GMT
#1549
not the time for teams yet though let me relook at DF
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 17:34 GMT
#1554
On March 21 2017 02:28 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 21 2017 02:23 Damdred wrote:
You know a scum team of say,

AMG/DF/Eden

kinda makes sense...


Why AMG?


Everyone said his post about me was good but most ignored my follow up post how the entirity of the post was misrepresented of the game state.

I find scum do this a lot more when they need reads rather than town who are trying to figure out the game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 17:45 GMT
#1557
On March 21 2017 02:41 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 21 2017 02:34 Damdred wrote:
On March 21 2017 02:28 Xatalos wrote:
On March 21 2017 02:23 Damdred wrote:
You know a scum team of say,

AMG/DF/Eden

kinda makes sense...


Why AMG?


Everyone said his post about me was good but most ignored my follow up post how the entirity of the post was misrepresented of the game state.

I find scum do this a lot more when they need reads rather than town who are trying to figure out the game.


rayn did a similar thing when he called me scum for a misrepresentation of how the EOD D1 went down (and it wasn't just me who noticed this back then...)

And he pushed very bad points for you and Malongo as well as myself to be scum...

He's just so scummy, but maybe the reality is that he's having a really bad town game. Dunno.

My dream team is Eden+DF+rayn now... rayn could be ultimately replaced by Onegu/AMG/disfo I guess.


Its true i keep forgetting onegu atm, but I dont' think that disf or + Show Spoiler +
(so calix doesn't see}tumble
are probable scum still. Like you are in a tough game, your partner eden is about to go down here. Instead of going after some thread consensus picks (tumble going after disf would be a good example of what if) they are trying to clear some of the people that are under scrutiny.

This is true of both but more so of tumble. Its interesting but I am not sure I would see scum do that at this point. though disf thought process does leave more room for backing out.

And this reasoning is also faulty partially, but poeing yourself isn't exactly a game plan most scum would go for I guess.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 17:49 GMT
#1560
I'm not going to admit in the open to calix + Show Spoiler +
that tumble
might be town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 23:41 GMT
#1606
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.


This is kinda a bad post (ok it is a bad post).

It is nothing but fear mongering going into a lynch.

Scenario one: Eden is afk scum, there is no reason for scum not to be on eden, there is no good defense of Eden. Just lynch and try to muddy up the water's and try to not give credit tonthebpeople on wagon song mafia had to be there!

Scenario two: Eden is somehow afk town that can't play and sort of doesn't care. If course scum isn't going to pass up thus wagon. Easy lynch.

The difference is in both cases is that Eden has no real reason to be read town, shows nothing of actually being in the game or not using old information only wants to pass the blame.

The other reason this is a bad post, he is complaining about gamestate and what is happening without constructively giving an actual second option. Just setting up a hook to cause fear and discord in the game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 15:16 GMT
#1790
On March 21 2017 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The other thing is i don't really see why Xatalos thinks Damdred has said smart things in this game, because he hasn't. Look at for example DBS' read on Koshi. That's a smart thing - that's sorta read i would expect from Damdred especially early game because he does that a lot when he is town. What he does instead was that completely mindless question to disformation and jsut laying out a list of townreads. Meeeeehhhhhhhh.... Obviously there are games (especially lately) where Damdred just afk's the fuck out of the game but this is not one. Hell i can't even tell what half of his posts say ?!?!?!? And that's smart posting? The only thing even remotely "smart" is the Tumblewood contradiction read at the start of N1 but even that fucking vanished in hours for idk what reason. Suddenly Tumblewood wasn't mafia anymore when just a while ago Damdred was so proud of finding something that "absolutely made someone mafia"..


Yeah you didn't even read 3/4 of my posts when you were/are scum reading me, which is disrespectful tbh since I went out of my way to try to interact with you when most of the thread was shitting on you and I was screaming that you were still town. Just tunneled.

I have said smart things, I was one of the original people saying why Eden was being bad during D1. (still think hes scum)

Tumble Catch, as for why i'm not super sure hes mafia now he had a post today that made me question it. It happens, and its for a halfway decent reason shrug.

Overall I think your reasoning for scum reading me is far below your normal principles tbh.

And as for @adam, I think I was kinda harsh with your posts. But I really think that Eden is scum, I have since D1. His play matches his mafia game, it doesn't show a real town agenda.

His case on Calix is just there to take up space, even when he comes back he just goes oh well nobody really cares, when he really didn't even do anything to try to get it to take off.

Then when he votes someone who he has at null, (which btw he had a really weird read on rayn who he voted with) he returns after the lynch to shit on everyone who went a different way when he had 0 impact on the lynch. I don't see this coming from Eden as town when he is one of the most constructive players around a mislynch or scum lynch at keeping people on track that I know.

Maybe hes town, I'll give you that and just couldn't play. But I just don't believe that.

As for shitting on you, I guess I was overtly hostile and I am sorry about that. I feel like you have totally misrepresented my gameplay d1 with your mini-case on me which I showed how it wasn't true/gave my thoughts. As for your other posts some are ok so far and you show a decent amount of paranoia about things you should if you are town. So yeah I could see your posts coming from town so far.

Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 15:21 GMT
#1797
On March 22 2017 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred if you're not mafia then there is a real fucking chance Calix is mafia. She's buying shit.


I'm not mafia, i'm not super sold on Adam being mafia either after catching up, i'd probably say his posts are more thought provoking than his first couple I took issue with.

I still think Eden is scum.

I also think that Onegu can be town with how sure he was that he got green checked, kinda a bit weak. But I sort of like that.

So yeah Calix is worth another look. DF is also worth a look.

I am not sure about Xata, i'm a bit pocketed with all the hard defenses i'm getting so far while he hedges at other points on me (bad xata).

I'm going to read both of their filters
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 15:22 GMT
#1799
On March 22 2017 00:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly?

Yes. But I let the other guy reply.


You can answer to koshi, i kinda want to see if we are bothered by the same thing.
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