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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:29 GMT
#732
[/quote]1) The Damdred part is very weak. First of all, it's a bit too much to say that Eden's opening was obviously 100% NAI. In addition, even if it was 100% NAI, it's not a scummy thing to ask people for opinions on a sudden "big event". Their reaction could be possibly more significant than the event itself. Especially if there isn't much else to talk about yet.[/quote]
What you are debunking here i am not arguing is something that makes Damdred mafia so all you have said is you don't understand my case.

2) On second thoughts, the Malongo part isn't that bad. Just not strong/convincing.

debunked?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:30 GMT
#733
EBWOP:
1) The Damdred part is very weak. First of all, it's a bit too much to say that Eden's opening was obviously 100% NAI. In addition, even if it was 100% NAI, it's not a scummy thing to ask people for opinions on a sudden "big event". Their reaction could be possibly more significant than the event itself. Especially if there isn't much else to talk about yet.

What you are debunking here i am not arguing is something that makes Damdred mafia so all you have said is you don't understand my case.

2) On second thoughts, the Malongo part isn't that bad. Just not strong/convincing.

debunked?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:38 GMT
#741
On March 19 2017 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP:
1) The Damdred part is very weak. First of all, it's a bit too much to say that Eden's opening was obviously 100% NAI. In addition, even if it was 100% NAI, it's not a scummy thing to ask people for opinions on a sudden "big event". Their reaction could be possibly more significant than the event itself. Especially if there isn't much else to talk about yet.

What you are debunking here i am not arguing is something that makes Damdred mafia so all you have said is you don't understand my case.

2) On second thoughts, the Malongo part isn't that bad. Just not strong/convincing.

debunked?


Please explain your Damdred case better then.

I went on to be more critical of your Malongo case later on. I can find that post for you if you want....

Damdred had an opinion of the Eden opening being NAI. Then he asked disformation something about it, when where every answer disformation can give leads to the same thing -> "scummy

Damdred already thought "Eden's opener is NAI" (which is what he said), he also though "dismormation thinks something about it" which means whatever disformation says he thinks of it SHOULD lead to same conclusion for Damdred.
- bad town ("no, it's NAI")
- scum ("no it's NAI")
- NAI ("but you already implied it means something?????")

Basically he should have a conclusion (whatever one) even before the question (and answer). The question cannot help you figure out disformation's alignment better so the only reason for the question is to be active and talk about something completely useless.

Like if i asked you "Xatalos do you prefer ice cream or ketchup better?" and implied "this is totally something that helps me figuring out your alignment" what would you think? Totes reasonable?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:38 GMT
#742
I don't care about the Malongo read. There is nothing that can convince me otherwise because i am feeling strongly about it. And that is something that cannot possibly need more explaining.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:41 GMT
#745
On March 19 2017 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 03:33 Xatalos wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo

I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways.

My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy.

So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time.

##ryanpelikoneet

Everything else es just nonsense for me at this point.


rayn, you said that your suspicion of Malongo was based on this post and how he did these....

- There is no reason to call Darthfoley town just because he is calling Malongo mafia
- There is no reason to assume disformation and Damdred are town just because there are people voting for them

1) The way I read it, Malongo said that foley was town DESPITE calling him scum, not the other way around. How did you come to that conclusion? How does that even make sense?

2) Malongo didn't even say that they're town, just that he'd prefer to get alternative voting action?

All in all, it's just so.... weak. Almost as weak as the reads on Damdred/me. Is this really the best you got to push with apparent confidence?


If someone says this:
I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy.

...they literally have to think both of the wagons are town otherwise this in itself doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

So there it is, you didn't really debunk anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:47 GMT
#752
I don't care what you did after that post because it's irrelevant to that post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:48 GMT
#754
On March 19 2017 03:45 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2017 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
On March 19 2017 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP:
1) The Damdred part is very weak. First of all, it's a bit too much to say that Eden's opening was obviously 100% NAI. In addition, even if it was 100% NAI, it's not a scummy thing to ask people for opinions on a sudden "big event". Their reaction could be possibly more significant than the event itself. Especially if there isn't much else to talk about yet.

What you are debunking here i am not arguing is something that makes Damdred mafia so all you have said is you don't understand my case.

2) On second thoughts, the Malongo part isn't that bad. Just not strong/convincing.

debunked?


Please explain your Damdred case better then.

I went on to be more critical of your Malongo case later on. I can find that post for you if you want....

Damdred had an opinion of the Eden opening being NAI. Then he asked disformation something about it, when where every answer disformation can give leads to the same thing -> "scummy

Damdred already thought "Eden's opener is NAI" (which is what he said), he also though "dismormation thinks something about it" which means whatever disformation says he thinks of it SHOULD lead to same conclusion for Damdred.
- bad town ("no, it's NAI")
- scum ("no it's NAI")
- NAI ("but you already implied it means something?????")

Basically he should have a conclusion (whatever one) even before the question (and answer). The question cannot help you figure out disformation's alignment better so the only reason for the question is to be active and talk about something completely useless.

Like if i asked you "Xatalos do you prefer ice cream or ketchup better?" and implied "this is totally something that helps me figuring out your alignment" what would you think? Totes reasonable?


I agree it's not the best question, but I don't agree it makes him scum. It was pretty much the only meaningful thing that had happened back then, so it's not unreasonable to ask someone for their opinion on that. Even if the original post doesn't tell much, someone's reaction to it might. It's not uncommon for myself to ask questions that may not be hugely important at the start to get something going.

The problem is the post looks like it actually is something he finds relevant. It's not just some random throwaway question people can do at the start of the game. It's a very detailed question instead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 18:58 GMT
#763
Well then i don't have to say anything anymore today.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 19:08 GMT
#768
On March 19 2017 04:03 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well then i don't have to say anything anymore today.


Did you have something else against Damdred other than that (debatably meaningful) question he asked at game start? Enlighten me.

Normally Damdred has some good reads (or at least really townie thought processes on reads). I don't see any of it here. Like he usually feels happy(?) that he finds townreads and here it's just some random lists of some people and asking if people disagree... It's just... unsmart.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 19:22 GMT
#785
On March 19 2017 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well then i don't have to say anything anymore today.


Wow! This really looks like your putting in the effort to lynch your #1 scum read! I'm impressed!

I know! And i don't even try to look like i am!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 19:35 GMT
#800
It's like a couple fighting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:06 GMT
#944
I completely overlooked something. I figured out what that is now. I thought it was a problem but it isn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:07 GMT
#945
Onegu you're a god and i am sorry.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:13 GMT
#947
Well Onegu voted for mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:16 GMT
#949
Because mr. DBS apparently had problems with 600 posts / day, but also apparently has not problems with catching up on a 800 post game in ~10 hours. Or making an informed lynch decision within ~300 posts in 4 hrs.

Smells like bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:19 GMT
#951
I am sorry i cannot ignore that. Blame him and not me. It's a very good reason though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:20 GMT
#952
And for the record that has nothing to do with anyone's alignment in any game.
People who are not willing to put as much effort into a game as usual are most likely mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:29 GMT
#956
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:32 GMT
#959
Instead of looking into the people who compleined about the votes on Malongo (when noone was doing anything) you should try to look at the people who call me scum for not even voting for Malongo and because i somehow "pushed Malongo to be lynched" (aka Xatalos).

That's some fucking twisted shit right there. Mafia 101 of "how to call someone scum without any reasons at all".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2017 17:33 GMT
#960
But you can all sheep mafia!ritoky if you guys want to. ^^
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