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On March 20 2017 05:28 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:25 Calix wrote:And yes, I don't understand how the concept of "townies under pressure are usually not logical" is just clicking with you two now  Anyway, have I made myself clear? I feel dirty from defending someone for so long, ugh. If you die, I'll promise to let Tumble be for a while  (Of course not counting major new developments)
Well I'd prefer that you did that because you actually think my arguments are good, not just because you're giving me the equivalent of a pity fuck.
I don't think he's a good lynch because I think the thread is way too clean right now. That immediately tells me that there has to be at least one veteran who is good at making himself look like town.
The majority of the people who fit this profile are scum-reading Tweedledumb (who does not fit this profile whatsoever).
Therefore I feel that Tweedledumb is not going to result in a scum flip. I'm sick of telling myself "oh this game is easy, it's probably Rels/ Onegu/ TW/ whatever easy target is order of the day" when that's most likely not the case.
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On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.
Nothing new to say about Damdred.
Sad times. But you are going to be mafia.
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Well, I did also come to the conclusion that rayn town / Tumble scum wouldn't make much sense. Scum rayn / scum Tumble would make more sense, but it's still not a sure connection or anything. So at the very least I don't think Tumble should be lynched unless perhaps when rayn flips scum.
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On March 20 2017 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Instead of looking into the people who compleined about the votes on Malongo (when noone was doing anything) you should try to look at the people who call me scum for not even voting for Malongo and because i somehow "pushed Malongo to be lynched" (aka Xatalos). That's some fucking twisted shit right there. Mafia 101 of "how to call someone scum without any reasons at all". 
They are not calling you scum for that alone. It's because you don't care who out of Damdred/Malango got lynched and just said: "fuck it, they are both 100% mafia". And you are the only one in the game that feels that.
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On March 20 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Instead of looking into the people who compleined about the votes on Malongo (when noone was doing anything) you should try to look at the people who call me scum for not even voting for Malongo and because i somehow "pushed Malongo to be lynched" (aka Xatalos). That's some fucking twisted shit right there. Mafia 101 of "how to call someone scum without any reasons at all". They are not calling you scum for that alone. It's because you don't care who out of Damdred/Malango got lynched and just said: "fuck it, they are both 100% mafia". And you are the only one in the game that feels that.
:D
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On March 20 2017 05:30 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:28 Damdred wrote:On March 19 2017 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no I would like to point out you guys aretalking about giving someone a free pass tommorow for being jumpy from one wagon to the next. Even though he didn't start doing that until he got called out for the shot he was doing with his townread. LikeI he was doing it before I called him out we would be cool. But he didnt. hmm?
Tumble did not start pulling the confused not sure where he wanted to go until he started getting called out and questioned about why he wanted to lynch his townread.
Then he said he didn't want to lynch rayn, but the vote should be damdred v rayn.
This sequence is distinctly different from someone who justbisnt sure what he wants to do.
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@Damdred, I see you posting and stubbornly keeping on with your Tweedledumb scum-read even though I demolished that argument. Why don't you get in here and actually counter my points?
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On March 20 2017 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i am having fun with that, because people cannot be convinced with any sort of logic anymore in this game so i don't really see what else should i be happy about when playing mafia anymore.
What the fuck are you talking about? We fucking followed your lynch. We hit town. Now you are mad that we are not listening to logic?
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Because you didnt counter anything at all.
Literally being confused town is different from what he did.
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On March 20 2017 05:40 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:30 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 05:28 Damdred wrote:On March 19 2017 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no I would like to point out you guys aretalking about giving someone a free pass tommorow for being jumpy from one wagon to the next. Even though he didn't start doing that until he got called out for the shot he was doing with his townread. LikeI he was doing it before I called him out we would be cool. But he didnt. hmm? Tumble did not start pulling the confused not sure where he wanted to go until he started getting called out and questioned about why he wanted to lynch his townread. Then he said he didn't want to lynch rayn, but the vote should be damdred v rayn. This sequence is distinctly different from someone who justbisnt sure what he wants to do.
Pretty sure he said that he didn't want to see Rayn lynched because the potential loss (if Rayn was town) was greater than if Malongo was town.
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On March 20 2017 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is town. I mean like sure he made a "contradiction" but people don't make contradictions they surely notice (if mafia) they are being called out for it (see for example Tumblewood and his "vets cannot be read" -> "i have a at least a somewhat read on all vets now").
Mafia makes contradictions they don't even realize are one (see Damdred).
Why didn't you say this earlier, if you believe that? Why are you not pro actively helping this thread further? You see everybody calling Eden scum and instead you go say "Onegu is a god, ritoky is mafia"
I am not buying your bullshit this game rayn.
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Also nobody left besides rels is probable lynch bait
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On March 20 2017 05:43 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:40 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2017 05:30 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 05:28 Damdred wrote:On March 19 2017 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no I would like to point out you guys aretalking about giving someone a free pass tommorow for being jumpy from one wagon to the next. Even though he didn't start doing that until he got called out for the shot he was doing with his townread. LikeI he was doing it before I called him out we would be cool. But he didnt. hmm? Tumble did not start pulling the confused not sure where he wanted to go until he started getting called out and questioned about why he wanted to lynch his townread. Then he said he didn't want to lynch rayn, but the vote should be damdred v rayn. This sequence is distinctly different from someone who justbisnt sure what he wants to do. Pretty sure he said that he didn't want to see Rayn lynched because the potential loss (if Rayn was town) was greater than if Malongo was town.
That is deffinately not the point I we obviously making
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On March 20 2017 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's like your whole play at the EOD is basically "rayn and Tumble are mafia whatever Malongo's alignment is".
This is probably a misrepresentation.
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On March 20 2017 05:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:43 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 05:40 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2017 05:30 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 05:28 Damdred wrote:On March 19 2017 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no I would like to point out you guys aretalking about giving someone a free pass tommorow for being jumpy from one wagon to the next. Even though he didn't start doing that until he got called out for the shot he was doing with his townread. LikeI he was doing it before I called him out we would be cool. But he didnt. hmm? Tumble did not start pulling the confused not sure where he wanted to go until he started getting called out and questioned about why he wanted to lynch his townread. Then he said he didn't want to lynch rayn, but the vote should be damdred v rayn. This sequence is distinctly different from someone who justbisnt sure what he wants to do. Pretty sure he said that he didn't want to see Rayn lynched because the potential loss (if Rayn was town) was greater than if Malongo was town. That is deffinately not the point I we obviously making
Then kindly explain it better. I don't get your "he said the vote should be DDD vs Rayn" since he didn't say that, he just said that he thought you could be mafia with Rayn. Am I wrong to assume you're arguing that? And he said on several occasions that Rayn could be town and expressed doubt about both wagons so that supports the confused hypothesis.
This answer is kinda crappy so we should probably start over from square one -.-
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On March 20 2017 03:30 darthfoley wrote:
PSA that I hate Rels. That is all.
Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.
Would like to hear what he makes of all of this stuff
This is a fucking lie. I was only here the first 24h and I did way fucking more than that. Like.. You are taking my 24h filter and then pretend it is all I did for 96 hours.
mafia.
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Ok I'll say it simply,
Tumble only started to look like confused town when he was questioned about his wanting to lynch his townread mal.
Before that he was perfectly fine with everything.
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On March 20 2017 05:40 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:30 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 05:28 Damdred wrote:On March 19 2017 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no I would like to point out you guys aretalking about giving someone a free pass tommorow for being jumpy from one wagon to the next. Even though he didn't start doing that until he got called out for the shot he was doing with his townread. LikeI he was doing it before I called him out we would be cool. But he didnt. hmm? Tumble did not start pulling the confused not sure where he wanted to go until he started getting called out and questioned about why he wanted to lynch his townread. Then he said he didn't want to lynch rayn, but the vote should be damdred v rayn. This sequence is distinctly different from someone who justbisnt sure what he wants to do.
okay lemme check timing again:
On March 19 2017 06:24 Tumblewood wrote:
hi I'm back and I don't have time to catch up by deadline. it looks like everyone's on malongo by now and while I'd like to lynch someone worse I'm not crazy about him
someone who can explain any major new developments to me would be appreciated otherwise I will skim
and then you called him out later:
On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal
then he kinda backtracks:
On March 19 2017 06:38 Tumblewood wrote:
the thing that gets me is, how the hell is rayn so confident on a guy with half a page of filter including pregame? there is a lot wrong with this wagon
I want this lynch to not happen more strongly that I just said
On March 19 2017 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at
town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?
needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?
bad
rels
onegu
scummy
df Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no
and doesnt want to lynch rayn?
On March 19 2017 06:43 Tumblewood wrote:
I kinda don't wanna lynch rayn either though because who wants to be *that guy* who mislynches rayn d1?
I will keep my vote on him but I'll have to force myself to
then he says scum is damdred or rayn:
On March 19 2017 06:46 Tumblewood wrote:
rayn/damdred is the pair that makes the most sense to me given vote logic. malongo wagon formed easily without rayn's vote. and then koshi as a third or something? trying to make a whole team on d1 is a bad idea and I feel bad already
oooooh this could also mean mal town rayn town
hnnnnggnggngngnnfmd
so yeah dunno. damdred called him out then the weird shit happens.
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On March 20 2017 03:37 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 03:33 ritoky wrote:
oh it was darthfoley. he responded super positive and agreeable to 2 posts i thought were hot garbage in tumble's and eden's posts. I still think Eden's 5-3 point was decent about Malongo. In retrospect he could do that as mafia so admittedly it's NAI, but I find the VCA component of it cool and something I hadn't thought about before Sorry for thinking that tumblewood's paranoia and generally EoD play isnt purely mafia indicative when I've done the same thing myself? Look back at the game where NeverUnlucky was lynched D1 as mafia and I was hard defending him as town for similar reasons. Made me look terrible after the fact, but I was still waffly and town
"I did it as town once so this time I am town as well"
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