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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 18:21 GMT
#981
On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.


There wasn't a large difference in my urge to lynch either you or Malongo. Not going to put everything on the line for a riskier play without significant added chances of hitting scum (and possibly hitting a blue / potentially useful player - that means you).

If we're talking about hypocrisy, you'd be a better example of that since you didn't really seem to mind Malongo being lynched even though Damdred was apparently your top scum..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:21 GMT
#982
On March 20 2017 03:21 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now someone must have told you i am playing a game on MS. Who was it?


You literally posted on the forums that you play on MS and wanted to play with Regfan or something like that.

If you're trying to accuse me of having extra info from being in a scum chat with Blue, you're not going to get very far.

Okay that makes sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:23 GMT
#983
On March 20 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.


There wasn't a large difference in my urge to lynch either you or Malongo. Not going to put everything on the line for a riskier play without significant added chances of hitting scum (and possibly hitting a blue / potentially useful player - that means you).

If we're talking about hypocrisy, you'd be a better example of that since you didn't really seem to mind Malongo being lynched even though Damdred was apparently your top scum..

See i am not calling people mafia for "hypocrisy".
You were literally okay for switching into me or Tumble and then you said "even if Malongo is town rayn and Tumble are likely to be mafia" so in your mind you SHOULD think me and Tumble are both more likely to be mafia than Malongo is.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 19 2017 18:24 GMT
#984
On March 20 2017 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky why are you interested in Eden not wanting to push his top lynch but not interested in Xatalos nto wanting to push a lynch on me?


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but my read on xata is that he agrees with things/is convinced way too easily and it spooks me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:24 GMT
#985
It's like your whole play at the EOD is basically "rayn and Tumble are mafia whatever Malongo's alignment is".
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 18:25 GMT
#986
On March 20 2017 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.


There wasn't a large difference in my urge to lynch either you or Malongo. Not going to put everything on the line for a riskier play without significant added chances of hitting scum (and possibly hitting a blue / potentially useful player - that means you).

If we're talking about hypocrisy, you'd be a better example of that since you didn't really seem to mind Malongo being lynched even though Damdred was apparently your top scum..

See i am not calling people mafia for "hypocrisy".
You were literally okay for switching into me or Tumble and then you said "even if Malongo is town rayn and Tumble are likely to be mafia" so in your mind you SHOULD think me and Tumble are both more likely to be mafia than Malongo is.


Yeah, a bit. But it wasn't a large difference. Malongo was a decent lynch anyway. On the other hand, you said multiple times that Damdred was sure scum, but didn't do much to get him lynched (outside repeating the stupid argument from his opening post a couple of times).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:26 GMT
#987
On March 20 2017 03:25 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.


There wasn't a large difference in my urge to lynch either you or Malongo. Not going to put everything on the line for a riskier play without significant added chances of hitting scum (and possibly hitting a blue / potentially useful player - that means you).

If we're talking about hypocrisy, you'd be a better example of that since you didn't really seem to mind Malongo being lynched even though Damdred was apparently your top scum..

See i am not calling people mafia for "hypocrisy".
You were literally okay for switching into me or Tumble and then you said "even if Malongo is town rayn and Tumble are likely to be mafia" so in your mind you SHOULD think me and Tumble are both more likely to be mafia than Malongo is.


Yeah, a bit. But it wasn't a large difference. Malongo was a decent lynch anyway. On the other hand, you said multiple times that Damdred was sure scum, but didn't do much to get him lynched (outside repeating the stupid argument from his opening post a couple of times).

So you were doing the same thing you're calling me scum for?

Yeah i was always okay with Malongo lynch.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 18:28 GMT
#988
On March 20 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 03:25 Xatalos wrote:
On March 20 2017 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.


There wasn't a large difference in my urge to lynch either you or Malongo. Not going to put everything on the line for a riskier play without significant added chances of hitting scum (and possibly hitting a blue / potentially useful player - that means you).

If we're talking about hypocrisy, you'd be a better example of that since you didn't really seem to mind Malongo being lynched even though Damdred was apparently your top scum..

See i am not calling people mafia for "hypocrisy".
You were literally okay for switching into me or Tumble and then you said "even if Malongo is town rayn and Tumble are likely to be mafia" so in your mind you SHOULD think me and Tumble are both more likely to be mafia than Malongo is.


Yeah, a bit. But it wasn't a large difference. Malongo was a decent lynch anyway. On the other hand, you said multiple times that Damdred was sure scum, but didn't do much to get him lynched (outside repeating the stupid argument from his opening post a couple of times).

So you were doing the same thing you're calling me scum for?

Yeah i was always okay with Malongo lynch.


I wasn't calling you scum for not fighting against Malongo being lynched. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of calling me scum for something you did yourself.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 19 2017 18:28 GMT
#989
hmmmm i clicked xata's filter and maybe i mixed him with sum1. i just woke up. i thought he was the super agreeable dude.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 18:29 GMT
#990
On March 20 2017 03:28 ritoky wrote:
hmmmm i clicked xata's filter and maybe i mixed him with sum1. i just woke up. i thought he was the super agreeable dude.


Hmmmm..... Agreeable how?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:29 GMT
#991
Like i think it's pretty easy to tell from my posts which lynches am i okay with and which not. If there are two people who are almost definitely scum in my mind i couldn't care less which one is lynched.

You on the other hand had me/tumble/malongo, and just sat on the malongo wagon while silently implying you would be okay with other things too when it was fucking impossible even 2 out of those three are mafia together in the first place.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
March 19 2017 18:30 GMT
#992
PSA that I hate Rels. That is all.

Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.

Would like to hear what he makes of all of this stuff
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:31 GMT
#993
And then you call me scum for leading Malongo lynch but not really leading Malongo lynch and both of those make me mafai.

That's why Xatalos is scum.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#994
oh it was darthfoley. he responded super positive and agreeable to 2 posts i thought were hot garbage in tumble's and eden's posts.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#995
For clarification data did switch to you to start shenanigans or try to but then switched back when nobody would move.

So he halfway attempted to get you lynched rayn
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 18:34 GMT
#996
On March 20 2017 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i think it's pretty easy to tell from my posts which lynches am i okay with and which not. If there are two people who are almost definitely scum in my mind i couldn't care less which one is lynched.

You on the other hand had me/tumble/malongo, and just sat on the malongo wagon while silently implying you would be okay with other things too when it was fucking impossible even 2 out of those three are mafia together in the first place.


I did switch to you at EOD though, and if someone else switched you would have been lynched instead. Alas, nobody switched, and I wasn't confident enough to push people further to vote for you. Malongo was OK, almost as good chances as you in my eyes - and you would have been a bigger loss if I was wrong.

Meanwhile you call me scum for not fighting to save Malongo when you had pretty much the same attitude to him as I did... Although you had a bit stronger feelings of him being scum, you also had similarly stronger feelings of Damdred being scum than I had of you/Tumble. So in the end, you're just calling me scum for doing almost exactly the same thing as you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
March 19 2017 18:37 GMT
#997
On March 20 2017 03:33 ritoky wrote:
oh it was darthfoley. he responded super positive and agreeable to 2 posts i thought were hot garbage in tumble's and eden's posts.


I still think Eden's 5-3 point was decent about Malongo. In retrospect he could do that as mafia so admittedly it's NAI, but I find the VCA component of it cool and something I hadn't thought about before

Sorry for thinking that tumblewood's paranoia and generally EoD play isnt purely mafia indicative when I've done the same thing myself? Look back at the game where NeverUnlucky was lynched D1 as mafia and I was hard defending him as town for similar reasons. Made me look terrible after the fact, but I was still waffly and town
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 18:39 GMT
#998
So if you say I'm scum, rayn, you should start by voting yourself

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
March 19 2017 18:39 GMT
#999
Calix, what do you make of Xata vs. rayn right now?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 19 2017 18:39 GMT
#1000
On March 20 2017 03:33 Damdred wrote:
For clarification data did switch to you to start shenanigans or try to but then switched back when nobody would move.

So he halfway attempted to get you lynched rayn

That's fucking bullshit. He hadd this "idea" in his head for fucking hours and he tries to do something like this in the last fucking 15 minutes?!?!!?!?

Do you wanna guess what happens if he really tries to lynch me and i get lynched?

Do you wanna guess in which "position" he puts himself if Malongo gets lynched and flips town?

Talking about scum agenda right here... I totally forgot Tumble didn't want to switch to me so Tumble is 100000% town and Xata is now pushing two townies and has for the whole game.
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