EPTWhat makes him scum is him trying pushing an agenda on disformation (aka. baiting him into saying something scummy instead of just scumreading him when every answer disformation can give is scummy in his eyes). Later on he lays it out as "misunderstanding" which is completely not what i am arguing about, as if it was a misunderstanding or not - at that time, it has nothing to do with why i am calling him mafia. + he is being unsmart. He really has no smart reads which is something Damdred is usually very easy to read for.
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What makes him scum is him trying pushing an agenda on disformation (aka. baiting him into saying something scummy instead of just scumreading him when every answer disformation can give is scummy in his eyes). Later on he lays it out as "misunderstanding" which is completely not what i am arguing about, as if it was a misunderstanding or not - at that time, it has nothing to do with why i am calling him mafia. + he is being unsmart. He really has no smart reads which is something Damdred is usually very easy to read for. | ||
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I am kinda waffling on Xatalos and Eden. I can't understand why Xatalos jsut calls me scum without actually calling me scum or even trying to interact me. Basically he is not touching my cases at all he just calls them bad and then says i can be scum for it but isn't sure (and again -- then does nothing with it). I am very sceptical he does that as town because it doesn't make any sense, especially for a player who is really interested in pushing a lynch on me if he thinks i am mafia. I can't understand why Eden townreads me because he shouldn't as per what he writes. | ||
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On March 18 2017 05:15 Eden1892 wrote: Why wouldn't he be null? This is a weird concept, since people are null by default, but here goes. He's null because he hasn't done anything relevant or important yet. He said something interesting about not liking the speed at which Damdred and disformation wagons grew. I like these kinds of observations, all else equal, but he didn't do anything with it and his vote on ray had no serious motivation behind it. So the sum of his actions is... nothing. He made a potentially interesting observation and did nothing to make it actually interesting. He voted for some guy for no particular reason. It's a bunch of air. Null. Like if Eden says this he literally must think my case is crap because my case on Malongo is based on something he found slightly townie. He doesn't think Damdred (who i am voting for) is mafia. Xatalos (who was and is my third scumread) is his top townread. Why am i town in Eden's eys? That's basically everything i have done in this game, called these three people out. | ||
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On March 19 2017 02:18 disformation wrote: @rayn what do you currently think about tw? Town. I especially like this set of posts: On March 17 2017 23:38 Tumblewood wrote: fuck that I'm sick of reads based on like 10 posts from someone who can easily look decent for as long as xata did when Damdred TRed him (and he wasn't that townie imo). it seemed like it should have been a throwaway read and then it wasn't On March 18 2017 00:40 Tumblewood wrote: brush it off or do that stupid "you're wrong but dw I won't scumread you" thing On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote: you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game He seems to be really believing in what he says. There is no reason to argue that as mafia because while it can be correct - or even if it was there is always the doubt of someone scumreading you for the "terrible read". There is basically no point arguing that if both you and Calix are town and if one of you is scum it's even worse lol. So the only conclusion i can come to is that he believes the read and that makes him town. | ||
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On March 19 2017 02:36 Onegu wrote: If you want reasons I will provide later but really dont know how you saw him as your top town read at one point... He's a good player and he can figure out townies for reasons that actually make people town. I didn't even need his explanation on the Koshi read i just instantly knew he has one and that he is town. | ||
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On March 19 2017 02:51 Onegu wrote: 1. Scum Lurk. 5. Koshi sees im Lurking 4.Im doing this and normally scum do this but im not scum. Yeah it doesn't make him scum because noone says that as scum. | ||
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On March 19 2017 02:55 Onegu wrote: Sure they do. It takes pressure off of them because you give bad answers to questions that arent asked yet so that they arent asked. I am sorry i lied a little. Yes, you do that. Noone else does. | ||
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All in all my townplay now is very different from what it used to be let's say 2yrs ago. | ||
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You'll push speculative reasons as though they were absolute fact.. Actually this isn't as good as i first thought it looks. There are nothing but speculative reasons in mafia especially in D1 and i always push my reasoning as a fact regardless of alignment because i don't see why i (or anyone) should trust a read the person in themselves doesn't even look like balieving on. | ||
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- Replace into a game as mafia and use all the time you have to make a case on a confirmed town - Make a video post of your reads and say "the only other time i have done this as mafia is ..." Yeah, noone does those things as mafia. Except Onegu does. | ||
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On March 19 2017 03:21 Eden1892 wrote: so wait, are you telling me that my heuristics are outdated and probably useless now due to a long break? Idk because i don't know what your heuristics are since i don't understand it.  | ||
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On March 19 2017 03:26 Xatalos wrote: I've made at least a couple of posts debunking your cases. no you havent. | ||
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