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I think I have a decent understanding of how you would approach him if it were TvS with you being the scum, and it didn't play out like that. Tbf you two are right around the same level for me. Not slam dunks but i'm suspicious of you two. Without doing in depth filter diving, my impression is that you've been more active and you've been active in the right places about the right things. I haven't gotten that impression from Damdred. Maybe i'm being overly paranoid because my last mafia game on here was our scum triad, idk. We'll see as the game progresses | ||
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On March 18 2017 06:09 Calix wrote: Are you saying that I have not been scum-hunting or what? This is also amusing since part of your scum-read is meta-based, yet you say this. No, that point was about Tumblewood's inability to have a scum read 23 hours into the game. Should've clarified | ||
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On March 18 2017 06:14 Calix wrote: Can you expand on that TvS comment? And yes, I am an overrated scum player. This is why I can't help but think that people who scum-read me are obtuse fuckers. But maybe I'm just not aware of what I look like to the average person, idk. Well from what I remember, we tried to put Damdred on the defensive as soon as he came into the game so that he couldn't scum hunt as effectively. This game you threw out an early town read on him and didn't seem as paranoid/suspicious of him as I think you would be if you were town. I know the circumstances are different considering that game had the whole replacement thing, which is why I don't think it's a huge point against you. | ||
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On March 18 2017 10:35 Malongo wrote: I am open to Q/A in case anyone want to call me out by whatever reason you may want. A lot has been discussed since you were last on here. I'm more interested to see what your reads are when you're all caught up. No specific questions for you that I can think of | ||
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On March 18 2017 10:59 Malongo wrote: Ok. This is going to be a long read but i´ll try my best. On a side note I am ok to get lynched if it turns out there is not a stronger target. One of the things that got me worried was lynching a town power role day 1 (wich I am not), so I guess it could be the lesser harm in some sense. I say this because I had the feeling from start that we were not in the all VT setup. Activity wise I´d say there are PWs in this game. What makes you feel that way? How are game play styles different depending on whether there are power roles or not? | ||
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On March 18 2017 13:43 Tumblewood wrote: filtered df. hopefully i can bang out a couple more of these before i go to sleep boooooooooooo + Show Spoiler + just lame. not super substantial but i don't see why anyone would care enough to make this post his play was forced but it was not mentioned and super duper null two hours earlier? also the first of those two posts is "really null. [...a paragraph making no real claims...] again, really null." no me gusta prob biased because i came at his filter more from the lens of "why is everyone saying he's scum" but hell i'd vote this In your bolded sentence I was talking about Malongo's play feeling forced, not rayn's. | ||
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On March 19 2017 00:41 Damdred wrote: Like I have only problems with df on this wagon. 1) Comes into the thread and blasts calix early and never really retracts from that. But is voting with 2/3 of his scum reads on his other scum read without really questioning the validity of the wagon I the people on the wagon. 2) Has very little talking points on mal in his filter that would indicate a scum read. I'm fact it seems likely basis for the read is actually rayns read. (Just as an aside I kinda said the same things about mal right after he posted but df kinda ignores this and scum reads me but puts rayn super high in his town list. I know he scum reads me for cordial interactions with calix which isbadreasoning but meh). 3) In his filter calix is his biggest read but just sheep's rayn instead of trying to push his read. Like idk just kind of a weird filter and his vote on mal seems a bit... opportunistic at this point. I was the first person to vote on Malongo, and that was more of a placeholder vote until the game progressed. Believe me, I am well aware of who is voting on this wagon. I also had my own reasoning for voting for Malongo, not just rayn's. Explain to me how being the first vote on someone i've cased (albeit a small case, because his filter is small) is opportunistic. Actually, you only having problems with me on this wagon is scummy as fuck considering the circumstances | ||
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On March 19 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: How I it scummy as fuck, when I have documented town reads on the people on wagon? It's opportunistic because it follows directly after you agree with rayns point about mal, it much just v bad timing on your part sonit doesn't come across as a placeholder. And saying you cases someone and that's most of why you votes them doesn't jive with the placeholder theory. Placeholder in the sense that I was more comfortable voting for him than my other scum reads at the time, plus my case and rayn's case. You can continue to push this point if you want, but it won't get you anywhere. Using your logic, i've been town reading Koshi and disformation, who voted for Malongo before you and Calix did. So if we want to talk about opportunistic  | ||
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On March 19 2017 03:36 Damdred wrote: @df listen you kind I avoided the question I asked. How is me saying I jab problems with things in your filter and showing what they are scummy? Should I not look at people whos on the same wagon as me filters, especially when ibjust say the no push back on the wagon is suspicious? As for your points, I don't think"ninja" votes that occur roughly 24 hours before lynch are necessarily damning. And unless they happen right as deadline hits kinda won think they are scummy in general. You voting first doesn't really sway me one way or another I I just something that happens. (As an said it is interesting you only start talking about to the wagonmates aren't the best when I be in it up). I'll break this into two posts days I forgot what ela there was lol I'm not trying to be anal but there are a lot of autocorrect errors in this and so i'm not quite sure about your first point. What question did I ignore? Did anyone else point out your ninja vote until me? I can flip your shitty argument back around and ask you why you'd ninja vote on someone who was 1) cased by TWO of the people NOT in your town pile and 2) not explain why you're voting for him. At all. You claim that my vote on Mal is for very few reasons while you never provided any before voting for him. Forgive me if I find your pressure on me a little lackluster | ||
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On March 19 2017 03:56 Xatalos wrote: Seriously. I remember someone had a half-decent case on Malongo, other than rayn. It didn't truly convince me, but it was better than nothing. rayn's cases on Damdred/Malongo leaned more towards "nothing" for me.. That was my case, I believe. On March 18 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote: The only part of rayn's post that I like is the Malongo read. I feel like his play so far has been forced The bolded I can actually understand from a town POV. The problem is that he hasn't done anything that amounts to scum hunting to really try to start another wagon. Yea sure, he voted on rayn but not for actual scum hunting reasons: This reasoning is just so bad to me, plus the fact that he doesn't actually try to push the wagon at all, or ask rayn/anyone else questions. He's not actually interacting with anyone | ||
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On March 19 2017 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well then i don't have to say anything anymore today. Wow! This really looks like your putting in the effort to lynch your #1 scum read! I'm impressed! | ||
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