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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 17:53 GMT
#495
You just won't stop rayn about this nonsense. I gave my opinion about Eden but disf post and the start of the miscommunication and his reasoning why I was scum reading xata made me curious about why he said what he did.

Idk why you can't see the correlation and why what I said about deep is an accurate thing. Premature probably, but true none the less.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 17:55 GMT
#498
At least 2 mafia in mal, onegu, rels, df, Eden.

Everyone else has a reason I don't want to Lynch today.

I kinda expect one mafia in my town reads but I hope not.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:08 GMT
#504
@Calix I just don't have a good read on df yet. I don't think he's necessarily scum but I so not have enough to securely put him into town without reservations.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:11 GMT
#506
On March 18 2017 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am thinking this:

Damdred asks a question where answers are:
- disformation says bad town (wrong answer)
- disformation says scum (wrong answer)
- disformation says (NAI - wrong answer because "you sure have an opinion on that")

Those are the only possible answers disformation can give. Now if every answer is wrong in the first place then Damdred should already have a conclusion or a lead on his alignment withouth the question.

The only thing he can do with the answer is to call disformation out. Can you see why this is not a townie thought process?

Later on he backs off. This is something that doesn't make him mafia but it makes sense as scum when me and Koshi are already calling him out of it.

I don't see any substance in his other posting.


This isn't necessarily true, there are no "wrong answers" this early about alignment.

Dis made a statement about xata and Eden. Obviously we all didn't understand each other I asked for him to expound his opinion he did to a 50/50 read on one and null on other I believe and then we got deep into the rabbit hole.

Even if he answers "wrong" that's still information that he puts into the thread and can see his thought process of the game. It's not as black and white as you make it seem.

And ive given a lot of reads for no substance...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:20 GMT
#513
On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"


Literally dis floats this in the thread right before I said Eden is nai.

I ask for his opinion since obviously he must have one from this post. This post is independent of my post. There is literally no reason I shouldn't ask him for more explanation from this post.

Though the post opened a chasm because there was a obvious miscommunication but that's beyond the point.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:21 GMT
#514
On March 18 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 03:11 Calix wrote:
Why wouldn't he follow up on that if his intentions were to accuse disformation though?

Because me and Koshi called him out. Following up on it would be disasterous most likely.
If he is town why WOULDN'T he follow up if he saw something? Why does he accept the answer "NAI (what disformation said)" when he already thought "you MUST have a conclusion"?


And if you think id back down just because you and koahi call me out on something just lol man. I do what I want and give reads when I want.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:22 GMT
#515
Yeah this is frustrating I'll be back shortly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:28 GMT
#518
On March 18 2017 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 03:20 Damdred wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"


Literally dis floats this in the thread right before I said Eden is nai.

I ask for his opinion since obviously he must have one from this post. This post is independent of my post. There is literally no reason I shouldn't ask him for more explanation from this post.

Though the post opened a chasm because there was a obvious miscommunication but that's beyond the point.

See here is my point.
If you though disformation implied he has an opinion you think is NAI why do you need to ask about it?
If you for any reason needed to ask about it why did you later on accept the answer (from him) "NAI" as an answer because that was the point of asking the question in the first place?


To get some kind of interaction going and understand what he was saying. Which I go on to hammer for like 50 hours...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 18:49 GMT
#529
Idk what to do with rayn he's ignoring all of my posts but keeping the same conclusion.

For everyone else is what I'm saying making sense or am I just Looney?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 21:04 GMT
#579
I think that tell isn't the best, I'm extremely aware of my meta and try to change and manipulate it as best as I can as scum to try to get better and ice on people.

But let's be honest here, the game is pretty difficult outside a few things.

As for little things adding up on me I don't really think any of it adds up to a decent case at all. Like Rayns main point I've explained 50 times already by the misunderstanding between myself and disformation.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 21:19 GMT
#589
Idk I don't think this game looks anything like your scum game so far meh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 21:23 GMT
#591
Game state is hard unless mafia isexactly onegu/mal/rels. And I kinda doubt that exactly...

Like I really liked a couple of tw posts based on tone and his sheer attitude/balls on his read of disf v cal was tvt. It could be a easy read as scum but just something felt real about the way he made that read.

Df last page of his filter isn't bad and he's pretty up front and had real reads.

Like I kinda feel like we probably have one of not two mafia in our secure town reads atm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 21:54 GMT
#594
On March 18 2017 06:28 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 06:23 disformation wrote:
oh. just randomly remembered something about mindmelds.
there was a glorious game where town!sicklucker had a mindmeld with scum!rels.
just sayin'


ROFL

Point taken.

@Damdred, so you mean Blue, Koshi, Xat and then us two, yes? Pretty sure they were my original town base.

Blue's filter is easy to remember off the top of my head. Good posts but doesn't talk a lot unless prompted + only really talked about you.

I'd have to consider rayn/ DF's points about Xat wrt filter-diving him.

No idea on Koshi.

So possible?


If we go with just that group to look into would have to be just deep and xata. Everyone else I think is pure town

I still think both are town in more confident right now in xata but both of them do have a couple question marks. Like xata has some really well reasoned posts but sort of lacks at points in the scum hunting department and isn't as posty as I remember.

Deep as well had some nice posts but was super focused on one and hasn't done much since. But has the whole first game here going for him. But I don't think his postings were outside scum range for anyone in the game
Like I'm really sure you and koshi are always town here.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 22:51 GMT
#602
On March 18 2017 07:37 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
The speed of this thread is way too fast for me, sorry. I just returned from work and there are several new pages. I don't think I can keep up with this game. I asked to be replaced. I'm just used to a much slower pace. Maybe some other time.


Really is a shame youvwere fun to read.

I'll townread this spot forever now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 22:53 GMT
#605
On March 18 2017 07:27 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 06:54 Damdred wrote:
On March 18 2017 06:28 Calix wrote:
On March 18 2017 06:23 disformation wrote:
oh. just randomly remembered something about mindmelds.
there was a glorious game where town!sicklucker had a mindmeld with scum!rels.
just sayin'


ROFL

Point taken.

@Damdred, so you mean Blue, Koshi, Xat and then us two, yes? Pretty sure they were my original town base.

Blue's filter is easy to remember off the top of my head. Good posts but doesn't talk a lot unless prompted + only really talked about you.

I'd have to consider rayn/ DF's points about Xat wrt filter-diving him.

No idea on Koshi.

So possible?


If we go with just that group to look into would have to be just deep and xata. Everyone else I think is pure town

I still think both are town in more confident right now in xata but both of them do have a couple question marks. Like xata has some really well reasoned posts but sort of lacks at points in the scum hunting department and isn't as posty as I remember.

Deep as well had some nice posts but was super focused on one and hasn't done much since. But has the whole first game here going for him. But I don't think his postings were outside scum range for anyone in the game
Like I'm really sure you and koshi are always town here.



'isn't as posty as I remember' - I can't even imagine, lol.

Blue has said that they have played for several years, not sure that this argument applies either way.

I'm not sure how viable pressure on Blue is. It's not like anything he's done is that scummy. 24 hours left so if we try to stack votes and get him to open up, we run the risk of lynching him instead.

Or maybe I'm being too pessimistic about activity. There's always Malongo who only TW seems to be town-reading and who has yet to appear.

But that's no good either. We need some kind of 'back up' train in case Malongo pops in and makes some really townie posts. Our current problem is that there's no real consensus on who that should be yet.

Thoughts?


I think my second or third game here xata had like 30 pages of filter and always had that as town lol. I think he has pusssshed it back some though.

And other trains im not sure give me a Dr hours and I'll be back to it.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 13:12 GMT
#636
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:01 GMT
#641
Hi onegu have you read any of the game yet?

Also just as an aside the votes are pretty spread out which sort of bothers me. Have all these one voters with no real care about pushing their cases. And nothing else. Mal is leading the lynch but most of the game doesn't care that much and really rayn who probably had the biggest voice in the thread (you such a good yeller sir) doesn't seem to care though granted he thinks both oof is are scum.

Idk it seems super easy at this point just to lynch mal with no real opposition which could be a weak scum team I guess it one that has a town up for lynch . Third option is just sagging mal but I don't we it. I have tr on abasically the whole wagon though..
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:41 GMT
#645
Like I have only problems with df on this wagon.

1) Comes into the thread and blasts calix early and never really retracts from that. But is voting with 2/3 of his scum reads on his other scum read without really questioning the validity of the wagon I the people on the wagon.

2) Has very little talking points on mal in his filter that would indicate a scum read. I'm fact it seems likely basis for the read is actually rayns read. (Just as an aside I kinda said the same things about mal right after he posted but df kinda ignores this and scum reads me but puts rayn super high in his town list. I know he scum reads me for cordial interactions with calix which isbadreasoning but meh).

3) In his filter calix is his biggest read but just sheep's rayn instead of trying to push his read.

Like idk just kind of a weird filter and his vote on mal seems a bit... opportunistic at this point.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:42 GMT
#647
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.


So we are kinda on the same page. Ok can you tea my last post and give opinions about df
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:48 GMT
#649
I also don't like eden, and I am with xata thatch don't lol all the weak things rayn has pushed+disinterested that his lynch isn't leading now. Idk I understand the I think both are scum and idc mindset
But seems to passive for rayn.

Eden tone ply method I attack seems off so far to me, butbi new to check on a few things.
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