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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 23:14 GMT
#2429
On March 23 2017 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fell asleep.
Cop has to claim now.


I'm not sure if it's 100% necessary. Depends on who he is (scumread to any extent?) and if his checks are of any use.

It would make today easier though, I guess, if that happened.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 23:14 GMT
#2430
Now off to sleep for realz
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 23 2017 07:57 GMT
#2451
Those are reasons why you think I didn't think something completely through before posting, not reasons why I'm scum, rayn.

As scum I'm far more careful what I post and certainly don't post unfinished thoughts into the thread.

+ Show Spoiler +
3 doesn't even make any sense. I asked you who you offensively jailed, and again you refused to answer. I didn't ask who you defensively jailed. Besides why would this ever make me scum? Same with 4. I've clearly shifted away from doubting you to a major extent so who would push you then? I already explained 2 at some point. 1 is just your opinion vs mine.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 23 2017 08:01 GMT
#2452
Besides many others suspected AMG as well, including Calix. Are they all scum too >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 23 2017 08:02 GMT
#2453
Note that I do agree AMG's play is a bit odd if scum. POE just doesn't leave room to throw him into townpile.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 23 2017 08:54 GMT
#2457
On March 23 2017 17:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(Wiki)
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 17:01 Xatalos wrote:
Besides many others suspected AMG as well, including Calix. Are they all scum too >.>

No. The difference is what i would expect from you and them.


The thought never crossed your mind that my expectations of your scumgame are also different compared to others when you complained about my "treatment of you"? Obviously I'm more careful of you. By the way, as scum I've almost always aimed to pocket you...

In any case, I post much more and much more carelessly as town. Of course it's not going to be always as logical compared to my times as scum/3P.

Think of it this way. In Diplomacy it's basically a FFA of 3P's. You have to carefully consider everything you say, so your messages will naturally be more planned out. Here as town you don't need to consider anything else than how to solve the game / have some fun. It's very different.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 23 2017 08:56 GMT
#2458
By the way.

If there is any blue in this game, please claim after all. 2 checks + self-clear + rayn-clear should be enough. Alternatively catching rayn early would be a high reward.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:28 GMT
#2541
On March 24 2017 10:54 AMG wrote:
The thing thats got me not wanting to immediately kill Xalatos is that I cant see him allowing a night kill on Ritoky.

That to me says AFK/inactive scum team



Have we played together?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:29 GMT
#2543
On March 24 2017 13:48 AMG wrote:
Xalatos, Ill be around after I finish work in a couple hours, will you be here?

I want to converse with you a bit


I'll be going to work just now. I'll probably check out the thread at some points, but I won't really be able to play much.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:31 GMT
#2544
On March 24 2017 14:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 09:13 darthfoley wrote:
Before I get flamed, my reasoning for checking Calix was I was playing the game as if it was RB/Framer/Goon and I was still somewhat suspicious of calix eod1 but wanted her and her scummates to feel comfortable not framing her or roleblocking me, so I backed off in the second half of D1.

I'm so sad that I didn't get a check off last night. Darn you rayn

Sorry. But Xatalos is town 100% so you kinda got a check.

???
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:34 GMT
#2545
Hm so DF. Interesting. I don't really see the plan for scum there since if it was rayn+DF in a vanilla setup, they would never win at LYLO..

Game should be really easy from here then. Just RB/check the shit out of the remaining suspects and they're done for.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:37 GMT
#2547
Wait rayn did you block DF?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:38 GMT
#2548
The rules say there are no notifications anyway though so how would you know you weren't RB'd?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:43 GMT
#2550
Ok.... I guess that makes sense then.

Dunno WTF scum wouldn't block you though if they weren't going to kill you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:46 GMT
#2552
On March 24 2017 14:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 14:31 Xatalos wrote:
On March 24 2017 14:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2017 09:13 darthfoley wrote:
Before I get flamed, my reasoning for checking Calix was I was playing the game as if it was RB/Framer/Goon and I was still somewhat suspicious of calix eod1 but wanted her and her scummates to feel comfortable not framing her or roleblocking me, so I backed off in the second half of D1.

I'm so sad that I didn't get a check off last night. Darn you rayn

Sorry. But Xatalos is town 100% so you kinda got a check.

???

Mafia had not rb'd me on N2 so you have to be town.
The only other option is that df is scum but he is uncv'd cop so its just onegu and tumble.


Yea I guess the scumteam has to be pretty disorganized/inactive... all the actions are odd so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:48 GMT
#2554
On March 24 2017 14:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The remaining scumteam is exactly Onegu and Tumblewood or me and DF.


Kind of agree..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:49 GMT
#2555
On March 24 2017 14:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ggnore. They forgot to send in rb. I sent mine 10hrs into N2 because i was asleep.

No other scumteam forgets to rb at the first hr.


Lol.. reminds me of that VS game where I was catched as scum at LYLO since the only other suspect was provably AFK for the whole night...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:50 GMT
#2556
(Based on his profile status... just lol)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 05:52 GMT
#2557
The checks are pretty catastrophic though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2017 06:39 GMT
#2562
On March 24 2017 15:09 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
On March 24 2017 10:54 AMG wrote:
The thing thats got me not wanting to immediately kill Xalatos is that I cant see him allowing a night kill on Ritoky.

That to me says AFK/inactive scum team



Have we played together?


I think you were arriving here just as I was leaving.

If i recall I read your newbie/first games.

I respected what I saw enough to know that you wouldnt make stupid night kills.


The ritoky kill happened before you went ham on me though >.> but whatever..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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