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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
Vote Count ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/IqzlJuTcIwFqg/giphy.gif) Damdred (2) - raynpelikoneet, disformation (0) - Raynpelikoneet (1) - Malongo Calix (1) - Onegu (0) - darthfoley (0) - Malongo (5) - darthfoley, Koshi, disformation, Calix, Damdred Not voting (4): Tumblewood, Onegu, Rels, Xatalos Voting is mandatory. Voting can be done in the voting thread. If you find any errors in the vote count, please notify a host via PM. Currently, Malongo is set to be lynched in at (at Saturday, Mar 18 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:01 Eden1892 wrote: I'm trying, and mostly there, but you people use too many words to communicate too many ideas and Safari browser makes keeping up basically impossible bc you can't jump to page reasonably. Hilarious that anybody thinks this group of gossips can get bogged down by any line of discussion lol. I'm not trying to bog down shit, I want answers. Why did you suddenly stop caring about your argument when you got the answer you needed and why did you start making these nebulous tone claims that you acknowledged yourself are possibly NAI as a reason to vote somebody? Fascinating but I see no reason to care about what you think since you're making things more complicated than they are and keep shoving leading questions down my throat. I've already said that disformation stuck out to me due to how he was acting and I voted. Then we argued again over his lack of doing shit. Then he started doing shit on his own and I unvoted. Simple. "that you acknowledged yourself are possibly NAI" You answer your own question with the word 'possibly'. I don't know whether it was NAI or not for sure so I engaged with disformation to find out. This is basic as fuck and I can't believe you thought this was a good thing to ask. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
hard to put in a order. like mal is the scummiest. then are the question mark guys. and then I have a hard time ordering like damdy / xata / tw / df df prolly towniest of the bunch. damdy vs tw would be hard. with damdy i feel like the points rayn and koshi had arent great, but they somewhat add up. but overall i still would say damdy is liklier to be town? tumblewood could you explain your town lean on malongo? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:08 Calix wrote: Fascinating but I see no reason to care about what you think since you're making things more complicated than they are and keep shoving leading questions down my throat. I've already said that disformation stuck out to me due to how he was acting and I voted. Then we argued again over his lack of doing shit. Then he started doing shit on his own and I unvoted. Simple. "that you acknowledged yourself are possibly NAI" You answer your own question with the word 'possibly'. I don't know whether it was NAI or not for sure so I engaged with disformation to find out. This is basic as fuck and I can't believe you thought this was a good thing to ask. This person is mafia. I've already explained the bulk of how this exchange played out, but I'll go over it again for clarity. 1. Disformation makes a somewhat confusing post about suspecting Damdred that gets misunderstood. 2. Calix, among others, is involved in questioning disformation about it. 3. Disformation clarifies the post in question with his comment about the "smilies being for damdy." When I was catching up, this exchange struck me because it took a couple tries for me to get what disformation meant. My reaction, as someone trying to follow what was going on and not getting what disformation was saying, was to go back and reread the exchange a couple more times, until I got it. It's worth noting that Xatalos was also reading along at this point, expressed confusion over the situation, but continued questioning disformation in a level-headed and fair way to understand what was going on. This behavior is exactly what I expect a good townie to do, and I townread Xatalos pretty strongly for it. 4. Calix, on the other hand, immediately jumps to a tone-based scumread of disformation. Her(?) reasoning ignores that disformation clarified what was said - even saying "this isn't based on what you're saying" - and doesn't attempt to understand why disformation might seem frustrated in his posting. This is a huge red flag for me because it was the opposite of my reaction as somebody trying to understand the information being exchanged. Instead of trying to dig further into what was going on, Calix was content with a weak tone read, stopped trying to figure out what was going on, voted disformation and moved on. Calix also curiously says that disformation "wasn't doing shit," but what do you call his initial post that sparked the whole argument? He was saying that Damdred is suspicious for having a weak reason for voting Xatalos. Isn't that "doing shit" within the literal first hour of game start? Obviously he didn't get a whole lot done after that, he was being pushed into defending himself because other people were misunderstanding his comment and questioning him about it. So basically, Calix is content with weak reasons for voting disformation, wasn't displaying the curiosity and earnestness for understanding that I would expect of town players reading the exchange I keep coming back to, and has been unnecessarily hostile in responding to my attempts to understand why she didn't display those characteristics I was expecting to see. Especially for day 1 this seems like a fantastic place to start. Pretty happy to park my vote here, and to ask people who are townreading Calix why exactly they are. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote: ATM I feel like DeepBlue is kinda playing like TimeTraveler from that other game, disformation hmmm... TT2 was very lurky that is right, but I feel like TT2 was more like confrontive (is that a word?) and gave less reads/content when he was posting? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote: I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame. I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote: 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote: I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame. I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. Cool. I think you're town | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Hell yeah. You're gonna vote Calix with me then right? | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
How the fuck am I supposed to respond to that?! I'm not you, thank the Lord, and there's no One True Way for town to play. Ta dah, I have countered your 'case' in five minutes. If you think I missed anything then pls bulletpoint because reading your rambling walls of pretentious crap is giving me a migraine. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:56 disformation wrote: eden is slightly confusing me in a "the me of this morning would like/agree/post the same stuff" way. Hm? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
just feels weird reading him post stuff very similar to what I was posting earlier today. deja vu like. not sure what to make of it. hes also ignoring other stuff you did like the interactions with rayn. def. liked his overall reads post more than that. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote: I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame. I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. If you're already using pre-flip associations and getting tunnel vision re: me before anyone has even flipped then your reads are going to be so off it's not even funny. What do you actually think of Malongo himself? Why exactly he is null to you? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 18 2017 05:02 Calix wrote: Eden, I still don't see anything that makes me mafia. All you did was say "here are some characteristics I think are town and here's what I would have done and since Calix didn't do these then Calix is mafia" How the fuck am I supposed to respond to that?! I'm not you, thank the Lord, and there's no One True Way for town to play. Ta dah, I have countered your 'case' in five minutes. If you think I missed anything then pls bulletpoint because reading your rambling walls of pretentious crap is giving me a migraine. You forgot the parts where: - your reasoning was bunk - you got really pissy for no reason when I tried to understand where you were coming from. I hope I made that short enough for your attention span, let me know if I need to break it down further. And hey, if y'all are gonna post 400 comments a day and give me a migraine, you can suffer through some long-winded sentences every now and then. Seems fair.  If you're so worried about little ole me voting for you, you can make a good case for Malongo being mafia. I don't actually get where that's coming from and I see you parked there, so maybe if you're town you can do us both a favor by showing me what I'm missing about Malongo and about you with a good case. If not, I can keep doing my thing here and that's fine by me. Your call. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
On March 18 2017 05:02 Eden1892 wrote: Hell yeah. You're gonna vote Calix with me then right? I find it definitely a possibility atm. I haven't never understood why she was hard TR so early. Especially from someone like Tumblewood, I found it a bit odd. I'm comfortable with Malongo at the moment, but there is plenty of time for me to reevaluate it. I don't think he's a slam dunk like rayn seems to, but until he steps up his game and provides more i'm gucci. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 05:09 disformation wrote: just feels weird reading him post stuff very similar to what I was posting earlier today. deja vu like. not sure what to make of it. hes also ignoring other stuff you did like the interactions with rayn. def. liked his overall reads post more than that. Wouldn't that count as him mind-melding with you, thus a town-read in your eyes then? I think his case against me is fundamentally flawed since he assumes that townies have a Specific Way of playing as town but I don't think it's mafia-motivated. Way too much focus on the context and you can see how he thinks. Which means we have quite a problem on our hands re: too many townie-looking people. It's extremely unlikely, statistically speaking, that Rels/ Onegu are two of the mafia so I think we're dealing with a vet or two as mafia. | ||
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